Why all the hate for SSB DS?

I want to know why so many people are strongly against any mentioning of a new SSB game for the DS! All the opponents of the idea just say things like 'No. Just no.' or 'Come on, we've been SSB DS free for X amount of time'. It makes me sick to see Nintendo fans not wanting to have one of the best series come out as what would be a good game. :evil:

I dont hate the idea, i just dont think it would work as well as it has on a home console.

If ninty think they can do a good job making it, then they would of done it by now, yes??!!

It's a great idea, it can handle an 64 remake. The problem though is that after coming out with Brawl, it would be hard to make anything on the DS to live up to such hype.

i dont understand the hate. People can say a game is for consoles, but that applies when you can't replicate it on a handheld

SSB controls would work fine on DS, all the buttons, WiFi. and it could have third party DS characters like Phoenix Wright, Mega Man, and DS only characters like Toon Link, etc.

I can't imagine the game controlling comfortably with the D-Pad.

becuase SSB as a single player game isnt worth purchasing. unless you plan to have 4 ds's, and 4 copies of the game, you'de never use it for multiplayer, which is what the series is really all about.

becuase SSB as a single player game isnt worth purchasing. unless you plan to have 4 ds's, and 4 copies of the game, you'de never use it for multiplayer, which is what the series is really all about.

the_wet_mop

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becuase SSB as a single player game isnt worth purchasing. unless you plan to have 4 ds's, and 4 copies of the game, you'de never use it for multiplayer, which is what the series is really all about.

intro94

i guess thats true, i think were on the same side here though.

Those people obviously never played Jump Ultimate Stars, and so their fears and skepticism are ... well you know

It can be done, it already has been done for JUS. It just takes one word from Sakurai

And JUS had non-lagging online, especially impressive since the signal was coming from Japan to US

Those people obviously never played Jump Ultimate Stars, and so their fears and skepticism are ... well you know

It can be done, it already has been done for JUS. It just takes one word from Sakurai

And JUS had non-lagging online, especially impressive since the signal was coming from Japan to US

TalesofRaGnArOk

You have a point. JUS is exactly like SSBB so i guess SSBB for the DS could work. But im not to thrilled about it being for the DS i like the way it is already, i mean the idea is cool and all but i just dont seem to be into it.

Those people obviously never played Jump Ultimate Stars, and so their fears and skepticism are ... well you know

It can be done, it already has been done for JUS. It just takes one word from Sakurai

And JUS had non-lagging online, especially impressive since the signal was coming from Japan to US

TalesofRaGnArOk

I dont hate the idea, i just dont think it would work as well as it has on a home console.

If ninty think they can do a good job making it, then they would of done it by now, yes??!!

Bigcol1611

Those people obviously never played Jump Ultimate Stars, and so their fears and skepticism are ... well you know

It can be done, it already has been done for JUS. It just takes one word from Sakurai

And JUS had non-lagging online, especially impressive since the signal was coming from Japan to US

TalesofRaGnArOk

JUS is a good game. i like it quite a bit. but theres a difference. SSB has a lackluster solo game with a good multiplayer mode. JUS has a good enough single player (IMO) to warrant playing it alone.

I can't imagine the game controlling comfortably with the D-Pad.

VGobbsesser

Oh, and also all the SSB DS topics that people makes asking for it just fuel the "hate". ;)

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Those people obviously never played Jump Ultimate Stars, and so their fears and skepticism are ... well you know

It can be done, it already has been done for JUS. It just takes one word from Sakurai

And JUS had non-lagging online, especially impressive since the signal was coming from Japan to US

meiaman

That is like saying that handheld-zelda games are horrible just because the console versions have better graphics and are more epic in scale. Like someone above said, it can be made in the same fashion that JUS was since the styles are similar. Out of all the Japanese DS games that people import, JUS seems to be right near the top so there is obviously a market for this type of game.

SSB is for consoles FILIPINOMAZTER

The DS is a handheld Console. I strongly support a Super Smash bros. for the DS as long as all of the characters on game are from games that are on the DS, that means no Earth Bound characters and no Solid Snake.

[QUOTE="meiaman"][QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"]

Those people obviously never played Jump Ultimate Stars, and so their fears and skepticism are ... well you know

It can be done, it already has been done for JUS. It just takes one word from Sakurai

And JUS had non-lagging online, especially impressive since the signal was coming from Japan to US

SiK99

That is like saying that handheld-zelda games are horrible just because the console versions have better graphics and are more epic in scale. Like someone above said, it can be made in the same fashion that JUS was since the **** are similar. Out of all the Japanese DS games that people import, JUS seems to be right near the top so there is obviously a market for this type of game.

And they aren`t horrible? :lol:

I`m joking.

But no Zelda can get near as good as the main consoles versions, namely the N64 versions.

My guess is, Nintendo consider it a shoot in the dark and don`t want to risk much.

[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]

I can't imagine the game controlling comfortably with the D-Pad.

Yoweeh

I think it would work out fine. Like someone said, maybe it'll be worthy enough to be apart of the franchise. GTA: CW is not considered watered-down, I also think that's accomplishable for such a big and rare series as SSB. If they put enough effort, it would really extend the small amount of fighters on the DS.

I could see SSB on the DS easily. Controls would be fine if people adapt to the D-Pad (I for one only use the D-Pad on fighting games). The top screen could be for a close-up on your character, and the bottom screen could be a panorama of the stage and characters. The health and stock/time could be also there, it would be nice and organized. Seeing the third-party characters would be really interesting also.

If an SSB DS appears out of the blue, I would buy it on the first day (As long it has online).

Just import Jump! Ultimate Stars...

SSB is for consoles FILIPINOMAZTER

becuase SSB as a single player game isnt worth purchasing. unless you plan to have 4 ds's, and 4 copies of the game, you'de never use it for multiplayer, which is what the series is really all about.

the_wet_mop

I can't imagine the game controlling comfortably with the D-Pad.

VGobbsesser

[QUOTE="FILIPINOMAZTER"]SSB is for consoles Pyro767

becuase SSB as a single player game isnt worth purchasing. unless you plan to have 4 ds's, and 4 copies of the game, you'de never use it for multiplayer, which is what the series is really all about.

the_wet_mop

Well, it seems that they came out with this new function called "wi-fi." It lets you play the game with other people without being in the same room! And there is this thing called "download play," and if they put that on there then you only need one game! Fancy that!

In about 3 seconds I came up with a great design for the entire game. Controls would work fine too. I guess they just don't want to do it.

P.S. Has anyone played Brawl with the Wiimote? It has less buttons than the DS and uses the D-Pad for movement. Not stiff in the slightest.

Yeah, I mean Mario games use D-pad all the time, and those work just fine...why shouldn't that work for SSB? Wi-Fi would be easy to implement, and download play would make iteven better.

Thats a terrible excuse. You could say the same thing about pretty much any nintendo game, mario, zelda, metroid especially.

All good games will have hype. If you get caught up in it, if your expecations are that high, then you should'nt play it. Let everyone else thats willing to give a good idea a chance buy it.

Yeah, I mean Mario games use D-pad all the time, and those work just fine...why shouldn't that work for SSB? Wi-Fi would be easy to implement, and download play would make iteven better.

Luigi12901

Except for Super Mario 64 DS. The control wasn't very good in that game.

The problem is that, after brawl, the game maybe not live to its hype, due to the handheld limitations, y`know. (controls and stuff). JUS is a stand-alone game, so thats why people don`t expect much for it as it would expect for SSB DS. People would always complains like, "ah the graphics are not that good".... or "the controls feel smoother on the console" or "Man... they really watered this down".... stuff like that would keep going the game down and down... because of the hype, they would have to put a lot of effort into it.

Thats a terrible excuse. You could say the same thing about pretty much any nintendo game, mario, zelda, metroid especially.

All good games will have hype. If you get caught up in it, if your expecations are that high, then you should'nt play it. Let everyone else thats willing to give a good idea a chance buy it.

Thats a terrible excuse. You could say the same thing about pretty much any nintendo game, mario, zelda, metroid especially.

All good games will have hype. If you get caught up in it, if your expecations are that high, then you should'nt play it. Let everyone else thats willing to give a good idea a chance buy it.

TalesofRaGnArOk

Or do you feel better thinking that the main reason that they didn`t do it `til now is just that DS devs hate SSB fans and hope that they just dissapear on a shipwreck?

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Yeah, I mean Mario games use D-pad all the time, and those work just fine...why shouldn't that work for SSB? Wi-Fi would be easy to implement, and download play would make iteven better.

KurodaMurasaki

Except for Super Mario 64 DS. The control wasn't very good in that game.

Yes, but that was a 3D platformer. SSB is a 2D platformer, which the DS handles very well. I was able to figure out how everything would work from the art style to the programming(not each individual line of code of course, just functions as a whole). If I wasn't so lazy, I'd be able to make the game myself(for PC). I think they just want to keep it as a console game.

SSB is for consoles FILIPINOMAZTER

[QUOTE="FILIPINOMAZTER"]SSB is for consoles Cloud_765

Yeah, I mean Mario games use D-pad all the time, and those work just fine...why shouldn't that work for SSB? Wi-Fi would be easy to implement, and download play would make iteven better.

Luigi12901

In Mario games you just tap the D-pad slightly to run and press A and B. Smash is different.

In Smash you have to slam the control stick left, right, up, or down often and sometimes must move it slightly and the amount of power you use when pressing the control stick is a real big part of Smash and I can't see it working will with a d-pad.

[QUOTE="Luigi12901"]

Yeah, I mean Mario games use D-pad all the time, and those work just fine...why shouldn't that work for SSB? Wi-Fi would be easy to implement, and download play would make iteven better.

Shy_Guy_Red

In Mario games you just tap the D-pad slightly to run and press A and B. Smash is different.

In Smash you have to slam the control stick left, right, up, or down often and sometimes must move it slightly and the amount of power you use when pressing the control stick is a real big part of Smash and I can't see it working will with a d-pad.

You could use a D-Pad in Brawl and it worked fine There's absolutely nothing stopping Nintendo from making this game aside from them just not wanting to do it. There's more than enough buttons, the graphics would be fine if they were 2D, everything could work fine if they were willing to make it. But it seems that they are not.

[QUOTE="Luigi12901"]

Yeah, I mean Mario games use D-pad all the time, and those work just fine...why shouldn't that work for SSB? Wi-Fi would be easy to implement, and download play would make iteven better.

Shy_Guy_Red

In Mario games you just tap the D-pad slightly to run and press A and B. Smash is different.

In Smash you have to slam the control stick left, right, up, or down often and sometimes must move it slightly and the amount of power you use when pressing the control stick is a real big part of Smash and I can't see it working will with a d-pad.

[QUOTE="FILIPINOMAZTER"]SSB is for consoles Pyro767

becuase SSB as a single player game isnt worth purchasing. unless you plan to have 4 ds's, and 4 copies of the game, you'de never use it for multiplayer, which is what the series is really all about.

the_wet_mop

Well, it seems that they came out with this new function called "wi-fi." It lets you play the game with other people without being in the same room! And there is this thing called "download play," and if they put that on there then you only need one game! Fancy that!

belive it or not, i've heard of both of these things. but i think we both know how that would go down. think about wifi for brawl. you pick a character, it picks a stage and rules and you fight for 2 minutes. its hardly worth playing. i know it could be better on the DS, but ninty knew it could have been better for brawl. the truth is, they werent focused on online play, why should i beleive differently about them this time around.

oh and download play? ha!. we know ninty better than to give us good DLplay. it'll let us piick one or 2 stages and 4 charachters to make all of our friends want to buy the game.

this is just like mario party ds IMO. i know that i could play it mulitplayer like the console versions, i just dont seem to hang around 3 other people who have the game and a DS very often. with the console version, i only need 1 system, and 1 game, and we're good to go.

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[QUOTE="Luigi12901"]

Yeah, I mean Mario games use D-pad all the time, and those work just fine...why shouldn't that work for SSB? Wi-Fi would be easy to implement, and download play would make iteven better.

Pyro767

In Mario games you just tap the D-pad slightly to run and press A and B. Smash is different.

In Smash you have to slam the control stick left, right, up, or down often and sometimes must move it slightly and the amount of power you use when pressing the control stick is a real big part of Smash and I can't see it working will with a d-pad.

you're for getting about tilts. im SSB there are three types of A attacks. standard A, tilt A, and smash A. i see no feasible way to implement that with a dpad.

[QUOTE="Pyro767"][QUOTE="Shy_Guy_Red"]

In Mario games you just tap the D-pad slightly to run and press A and B. Smash is different.

In Smash you have to slam the control stick left, right, up, or down often and sometimes must move it slightly and the amount of power you use when pressing the control stick is a real big part of Smash and I can't see it working will with a d-pad.

the_wet_mop

you're for getting about tilts. im SSB there are three types of A attacks. standard A, tilt A, and smash A. i see no feasible way to implement that with a dpad.

They did it with Brawl, using just the Wii remote, didn't they? It wouldn't be a problem, honestly.