Why aren't 1:1 combat controls being done?

Several times I've heard counter arguments to 1:1 combat saying that it's too complicated to mimic the motion of the wiimote exactly, hence why swinging the wiimote in any random way is say a diagonal sword swing. However, if you take a look at Wii Baseball, when you're at bat, BEFORE you swing, I've found that it mimics the position of the mote EXACTLY. Tilting the mote to any direction at all is precisely represented in the game. Surely the accuracy of the motion control should be high enough to detect a movement of 20-30cm to any side, which would, paired with the tilt of the wiimote, perfectly display a sword strike. What am I missing?

They're waiting for Nintendo to do it.

No other company wants that blemish on their record if they fail with it.

I have no idea, but I gree that it would be awesome in sword play. Wasn't the fishing in Zelda 1:1? It felt pretty good to me.7arek

Great point. *sigh* the Wii COULD be so much more with the hardware it's got, imagine if they got this right, together with the unique graphics and physics system which is said to be capable of getting a lot closer to 360 performance.

They're waiting for Nintendo to do it.

No other company wants that blemish on their record if they fail with it.

Jaysonguy

Devs rely on Nintendo to show them the way. Metroid for controls, Galaxy for Graphics, and another game, possibly Zelda but that's WAAAAYYY far off so I hope it's sooner, for 1:1 motion.

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They're waiting for Nintendo to do it.

No other company wants that blemish on their record if they fail with it.

Duckman5

Devs rely on Nintendo to show them the way. Metroid for controls, Galaxy for Graphics, and another game, possibly Zelda but that's WAAAAYYY far off so I hope it's sooner, for 1:1 motion.

I think that's really sad, period. On top of that, Nintendo is a great developer, but it's not to say that someone else couldn't do even better. I'm really disappointed by the amount of innovation on a system capable of so great innovations.

But yeah, it's in Nintendo's interest to keep the customers of their console happy - which is why they take the effort. Until you see how it's really supposed to be done, you'll be content with what you've got. And that's a lot cheaper to game producers. It just makes me sad.

[QUOTE="Duckman5"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

They're waiting for Nintendo to do it.

No other company wants that blemish on their record if they fail with it.

property2r145

Devs rely on Nintendo to show them the way. Metroid for controls, Galaxy for Graphics, and another game, possibly Zelda but that's WAAAAYYY far off so I hope it's sooner, for 1:1 motion.

I think that's really sad, period. On top of that, Nintendo is a great developer, but it's not to say that someone else couldn't do even better. I'm really disappointed by the amount of innovation on a system capable of so great innovations.

But yeah, it's in Nintendo's interest to keep the customers of their console happy - which is why they take the effort. Until you see how it's really supposed to be done, you'll be content with what you've got. And that's a lot cheaper to game producers. It just makes me sad.

They really don't GET Nintendo's hardware that well so they need someone to hold their hand the first time. It is pretty sad.

Hey isn't that new Dragon Quest game going to be a 1 to 1 ratio or at least close to it? or is it going to be preset angles?

Hey isn't that new Dragon Quest game going to be a 1 to 1 ratio or at least close to it? or is it going to be preset angles?

DinoRiki

Got any link?

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Hey isn't that new Dragon Quest game going to be a 1 to 1 ratio or at least close to it? or is it going to be preset angles?

property2r145

Got any link?

He's asking a question.

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Hey isn't that new Dragon Quest game going to be a 1 to 1 ratio or at least close to it? or is it going to be preset angles?

Duckman5

Got any link?

He's asking a question.

Yes, I can see that.

1) A link to a resource detailing Dragon Quest, because I'm lazy

2) "isn't" implies someone or something gave him that idea - where?

i heard TP was running in 1:1 but they got rid of it to make it easier for casuals :(2good2betrue

That's what they said at GDC.

Hey isn't that new Dragon Quest game going to be a 1 to 1 ratio or at least close to it? or is it going to be preset angles?

DinoRiki

It's not, you don't even see the sword on screen.

[QUOTE="Duckman5"][QUOTE="property2r145"][QUOTE="DinoRiki"]

Hey isn't that new Dragon Quest game going to be a 1 to 1 ratio or at least close to it? or is it going to be preset angles?

property2r145

Got any link?

He's asking a question.

Yes, I can see that.

1) A link to a resource detailing Dragon Quest, because I'm lazy

2) "isn't" implies someone or something gave him that idea - where?

No it's not 1 to 1 its not even close to that i checked it registers up down left right and diagonals and small motions confuse it

and i'm not giving you a link becuz i'm lazy:P

interesting, i admit that in baseball it does move realisticly

eccept one thing that developpers would have problems doing in a sword fight, it's to calculate, or to know when exactly the player is attacking or defending, meaning .... if you move the wiimote backward, the signal sent is "the wiimote is moving back. stop." it won't know if you are holding it back or stuff like attacking by pushing the wiimote forward ...

http://play.tm/wire/click/1434860

hereyaare. itd be great if osmeone could tell me how to link

No it's not 1 to 1 its not even close to that i checked it registers up down left right and diagonals and small motions confuse it

and i'm not giving you a link becuz i'm lazy:P

DinoRiki

What has the world come to with all these lazy people. God damn it.

http://play.tm/wire/click/1434860

hereyaare. itd be great if osmeone could tell me how to link

LastLaugh90

Nice find, I'm glad to hear it's really being considered and perhaps worked on already.