why does everyone hate the Zelda DS games?

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#1 nero_rules
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Well, not everyone... but a lot of people have had some negative things to say about them. Are they really that bad? I was thinking of picking up both now that I have a fancy Zelda 3DS.

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#2 hydralisk86
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I thought they were OK. But i think i used a walkthrough a lot of the times xD.
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#3 bub166
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It's not really that people hate the games in general, it's that compared to most other Zelda games, they kind of suck.

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#4 nero_rules
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It's not really that people hate the games in general, it's that compared to most other Zelda games, they kind of suck.

bub166
But why? What's so bad about them? They actually look really awesome to me (I loved Wind Waker).
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#5 LOSTLEAD8R
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The Zelda DS games are so outrageously decent. Just the amount of effort for them was just enough. They were the okest ok games from okvill that they won the okay award in the festival of overall fineness. They made just the right impact to know that you played them but forgot exactly what happen. They were just so there that they were noticeable.

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#6 Pixel-Perfect
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Well, people don't like PH for the Temple of the Ocean King (which I agree with).

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#7 elbert_b_23
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i don't hate them i hate the controls for them to me it didn't feel like zelda when i had to draw lines all the time after a hour i would get so bored of it i couldn't stand any longer
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#8 Calvin079
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Well, not everyone... but a lot of people have had some negative things to say about them. Are they really that bad? I was thinking of picking up both now that I have a fancy Zelda 3DS.

nero_rules

I don't care for touch screen controls , and I've always liked the over head look rather than the 3D dungeons which is why many of the Zelda games don't intrest me.

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#9 ANIMEguy10034
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They're great games, but most of the complaints are:

  • Phantom Hourglass' Temple of the Ocean King - Entering multiple times and getting through the same floors was not fun.
    I agree with this complaint. Yes, there are shortcuts, but the floors did not change at all.
  • The train from Spirit Tracks - It limited the exploration.
    Ehh... Yeah, I agree with this complaint.
  • The difficulty - Many say it's too easy.
    I did not mind the difficulty.
  • Touch controls - People disliked using the touchscreen to move, attack, and pretty much do everything.
    I thought the controls were excellent and unique.
  • The Flute in Spirit Tracks- People had difficulties playing it.
    I did not.

I'd still give them a 9/10.

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#10 Chopinist
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They were nothing special. Even with the Zelda franchise, the magic and greatness that springs at just the sound of the name, they still couldn't make a proper game that was immersive and good like the rest. Neither of them appealed to me or made me want to finish them. I simply bought it because it had Zelda written on it and they stand as a reminder at how stupid I still am.

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#11 JustPlainLucas
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I wouldn't really say I hate them, but they sure aren't great.
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#12 LaytonsCat
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I loved phantom hourglass it is one of the most revolutionary zelda games, I liked the temple of the ocean king. Spirit Tracks took the good of PH and made it worse

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#13 bub166
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As I said, it's not that they're bad, it's that they aren't as good as most other Zelda games. I actually rather like them, aside from the Temple of the Ocean King and the fact that the controls are kind of... Not bad, but I prefer motion or traditional controls, I guess.

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#14 MLBknights58
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Because they called me all sorts of nasty names. :cry:

I just hated the way they played. Just wasn't fun at all.

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#15 decepticondevil
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While obviously a few people do hate them, I think the majority just find them to be "okay" games. The Zelda franchise is known for being exceptional in most respects, so while the DS games aren't generally "hated", they're considered some of the weaker entries in the franchise.

Personally, I also thought that they were just alright. Some complaints I agree with, others I don't... but I still found them worth playing through. They're not bad games, but I do think they could have been done better at the same time.

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#16 glimpus
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Honestly that one repetitive temple and having to completely control link with the stylus was bunk to me. i know we have a touch screen, but that doesnt mean EVERYTHING has to be done like that. sometimes your hands would even get in the way of the screen, it was a little too much of "lets use complete touch screen control cause we can" instead of "lets use touch screen control for things that make sense or that really improve the gameplay."

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#17 Pixel-Perfect
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I will say that I really liked the control scheme for Phantom Hourglass though.

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#18 bulby_g
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I thought they where great personally. Not my favourite Zelda games but still fantastic fun. I think revisiting temples in SS is more annoying than The Temple Of The Ocean King ever was but even that doesn't bother me too much, it's a minor thing compared to some JRPG backtracking!

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#19 glimpus
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I thought they where great personally. Not my favourite Zelda games but still fantastic fun. I think revisiting temples in SS is more annoying than The Temple Of The Ocean King ever was but even that doesn't bother me too much, it's a minor thing compared to some JRPG backtracking!

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ive loved nearly every zelda game since alttp, but this backtracking was the worst id ever seen in the series. usually you go back to a place where there are lots of secrets that with your new found gadgets and abilities you can acquire, and it's exciting. the temple of the ocean king was one of the worst things ever put into a zelda game.

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#20 bulby_g
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[QUOTE="bulby_g"]

I thought they where great personally. Not my favourite Zelda games but still fantastic fun. I think revisiting temples in SS is more annoying than The Temple Of The Ocean King ever was but even that doesn't bother me too much, it's a minor thing compared to some JRPG backtracking!

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ive loved nearly every zelda game since alttp, but this backtracking was the worst id ever seen in the series. usually you go back to a place where there are lots of secrets that with your new found gadgets and abilities you can acquire, and it's exciting. the temple of the ocean king was one of the worst things ever put into a zelda game.

Don't get me wrong I'd definitely have prefered new, different temples. It just didn't bother me much and I quite liked the temple overall. It was quite a nice concept for a one off but if they did it in another game I'd probably be pissed.

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#21 ACx7
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The first one annoyed me to the point where I didn't even try the second. I dislike repetition. Having to go back to the same place a dozen times is not something I enjoy. It wasn't necessarily a bad game. Just not for me.
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#22 zekere
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Play Ocarina of Time 3D, and you'll learn why. They have no body, spirit and mind of their own. they're fun games, but not what Zelda is about...

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#23 LJChronx
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They are still great games. You really should pick them all up.

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#24 nero_rules
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Play Ocarina of Time 3D, and you'll learn why. They have no body, spirit and mind of their own. they're fun games, but not what Zelda is about...

zekere
Um, I've played Ocarina. Several times. The DS games are some of the few Zelda games I haven't played (along with Minish Cap). That's why I'm interested in them.
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#25 glimpus
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[QUOTE="zekere"]

Play Ocarina of Time 3D, and you'll learn why. They have no body, spirit and mind of their own. they're fun games, but not what Zelda is about...

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Um, I've played Ocarina. Several times. The DS games are some of the few Zelda games I haven't played (along with Minish Cap). That's why I'm interested in them.

The general consensus is that Spirit Tracks is the superior of the two, but I only actually bothered finishing PH. And then I felt kinda, meh.

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#26 Levi221
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Besides the back tracking threw the temple I thought both games were epic.
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#27 LaytonsCat
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If I were to say Phantom Hourglass is my 4th or 5th (not sure about SS yet) zelda game, would I get banned from GS???

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#28 lancea34
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Because they're Wind Waker haters. Since the DS games are the continuation of the Wind Waker story and style, it's a no-brainer they're gonna hate those too. jk :P ;)

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#29 BigBen11111
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Spirit Tacks & Phantom Hourglass are both excellent games & should not be missed.

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#30 conkertheking1
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I loved PH, disliked ST.

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#31 bub166
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If I were to say Phantom Hourglass is my 4th or 5th (not sure about SS yet) zelda game, would I get banned from GS???

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Immediately. Opinions are a really, really serious crime here. I compare it to genocide in real life.

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#32 DJ_Lae
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TEMPLE OF THE OCEAN KING. It's an abomination of abominations in the entire Zelda franchise, so much so that I had absolutely no desire to play Spirit Tracks. Also the controls were kind of weird. I didn't hate them (parts were quite novel) but I can understand why someone would not want to play the games just because you're using a stylus to control Link rather than the typical physical controls.
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#33 TriniPlayer
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I think I may be the only one who didn't have a problem or was annoyed with the Ocean King temple,sure it was repetitive but going back each time only made me more interested to find out what more discoveries the temple had inside. On a different note I enjoyed everything about Phantom Hourglass including the story which was epic,I didn't quite get that same feel with Spirit tracks tho.
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#34 CCpotter
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Well, not everyone... but a lot of people have had some negative things to say about them. Are they really that bad? I was thinking of picking up both now that I have a fancy Zelda 3DS.

nero_rules

I don't like it have to say, it's a Japanese style game, that's the reason why it gets so popular in Japanese players.

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#35 campzor
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forced touch screen / stylus controls.... i hate the damn thing.
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#36 jedinat
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Because they're Wind Waker haters. Since the DS games are the continuation of the Wind Waker story and style, it's a no-brainer they're gonna hate those too. jk :P ;)

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Wind Waker was incredible. A sublime experience. PH was bland and terrible. I basically bought my XL to play the Zelda games and was severely disappointed in PH. ST was better, had a much better narrative, etc... but I still couldn't finish it due largely to the aweful touch controls.