Why Doesn't Wii Have Downloadable Demos?

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#1 GLhardcore24
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Why Doesn't Wii Have Downloadable Demos? They could just make demos to put on your wii channels. That way will be able to get e3 demos.
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#2 ag1052
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the wii would need more space for downloads... they may make something like this but before they do the would have to have a Wii hard drive.
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#3 Wiifanboy_4life
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Memory space I think. Unless they can make a hard drive.
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#4 ramseyT
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You know they do make SD cards......by the way Wii brand SD cards are far overpriced. Can you use regular SD cards with the Wii.
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#5 GLhardcore24
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Well if they come out wit a hdd then i better get demos.
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#6 soulfood4
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You know they do make SD cards......by the way Wii brand SD cards are far overpriced. Can you use regular SD cards with the Wii.ramseyT
Really? A 2 gig Wii SD card is like 19.99, not a bad price. But it doesnt matter what kind of SD card it is though. Also cant they just use what the DS does for demos?
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#7 lapyx
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I agree with pretty much everyone who posted above. Yes, the SD Cards of any other brand can be used in the Wii. Plus, believe it or not, Demos do indeed take up a lot of space when there's lots of them. It would require that the Wii have a hard drive of its own, which it does not.
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[QUOTE="ramseyT"]You know they do make SD cards......by the way Wii brand SD cards are far overpriced. Can you use regular SD cards with the Wii.soulfood4
Really? A 2 gig Wii SD card is like 19.99, not a bad price. But it doesnt matter what kind of SD card it is though. Also cant they just use what the DS does for demos?

What does the DS do for demos?

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You know they do make SD cards......by the way Wii brand SD cards are far overpriced. Can you use regular SD cards with the Wii.ramseyT

Yup, you can.

Now the trouble though is that, at least with the current firmware, you can't run anything off of SD cards. Also, the popularity of such a feature would be dependant on how many people already have (or are willing to purchase) SD cards of reasonable capacity.

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I never understood why they can't have the demos online like online computer games, except they could use a closed online network only accessable by the Wii so hackers can't get in and screw with them. I mean, they manged to do it with the shop channel, voting channel, and weather and news channels, why not just make a channel for demos that takes you online like those channels do? I think it could work.
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#11 fireshinigami2
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If Nintendo launch a HardDrive or let us save on a SD memory then it could have demos.
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#12 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="soulfood4"][QUOTE="ramseyT"]You know they do make SD cards......by the way Wii brand SD cards are far overpriced. Can you use regular SD cards with the Wii.Wiifanboy_4life

Really? A 2 gig Wii SD card is like 19.99, not a bad price. But it doesnt matter what kind of SD card it is though. Also cant they just use what the DS does for demos?

What does the DS do for demos?

The DS stores demos in its 4MB of RAM. This method is practical for that system, since portable games tend to be very small by their nature. It would be more difficult to implement on the Wii.

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#13 ramseyT
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I was at gamestop today and they were selling 2 gig SD cards for 99 bucks....
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N doesn't want to have them, these are old games.

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#15 GLhardcore24
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How do you get demos on the ds.
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#16 ThePlothole
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I was at gamestop today and they were selling 2 gig SD cards for 99 bucks....ramseyT

Okay, well that is insane. You can easily get a 2GB card for under 30USD.

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#17 TacticalElefant
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The demos would be really big, too big for storing on such a small amount of space (512 MB) especially when considered that other data is being stored as well. An HDD should've been made or built into the Wii from the get go.
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[QUOTE="ramseyT"]You know they do make SD cards......by the way Wii brand SD cards are far overpriced. Can you use regular SD cards with the Wii.ThePlothole

Yup, you can.

Now the trouble though is that, at least with the current firmware, you can't run anything off of SD cards. Also, the popularity of such a feature would be dependant on how many people already have (or are willing to purchase) SD cards of reasonable capacity.


Data transfer rate would probably be too slow for streaming data off of.
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#19 fishzone
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How do you get demos on the ds.GLhardcore24
you go to a place that has a DS download station, and download the demo through DS Download Play. However, when you turn off your DS, the demo is gone
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I never understood why they can't have the demos online like online computer games, except they could use a closed online network only accessable by the Wii so hackers can't get in and screw with them. I mean, they manged to do it with the shop channel, voting channel, and weather and news channels, why not just make a channel for demos that takes you online like those channels do? I think it could work.nintendo-boy
See now, that is a damn good plan. I was just complaining in my blog about this very thing. Stupid, I know, but Nintendo seems so unactive lately!
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#21 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

[QUOTE="ramseyT"]You know they do make SD cards......by the way Wii brand SD cards are far overpriced. Can you use regular SD cards with the Wii.TacticalElefant

Yup, you can.

Now the trouble though is that, at least with the current firmware, you can't run anything off of SD cards. Also, the popularity of such a feature would be dependant on how many people already have (or are willing to purchase) SD cards of reasonable capacity.


Data transfer rate would probably be too slow for streaming data off of.

The transfer rate really depends on the brand and model of card. However generally SD cards are fast enough to stream video, audio, and other misc data.

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#22 catfishmoon23
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Data transfer rate would probably be too slow for streaming data off of.TacticalElefant

Flash memory is faster than a HDD. Trust me, demos would run off of an sd card.

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#23 vashkey
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The hard drive is way to small for demos. One demo would probably take up half if not more of the hard drive.
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#25 TacticalElefant
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[QUOTE="TacticalElefant"]
Data transfer rate would probably be too slow for streaming data off of.catfishmoon23

Flash memory is faster than a HDD. Trust me, demos would run off of an sd card.



I know HDDs have slow data streaming too, but I read somewhere that SD readers were nothing impressive either. Storage is one thing, but data streaming is another, and lol I'm not going to spend a hefty amount of money for such a small amount of space.
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#26 Duckman5
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[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"][QUOTE="TacticalElefant"]
Data transfer rate would probably be too slow for streaming data off of.TacticalElefant

Flash memory is faster than a HDD. Trust me, demos would run off of an sd card.



I know HDDs have slow data streaming too, but I read somewhere that SD readers were nothing impressive either. Storage is one thing, but data streaming is another, and lol I'm not going to spend a hefty amount of money for such a small amount of space.

Hefty amount? I saw a 2 gig one for 20 bucks.

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[QUOTE="nintendo-boy"]I never understood why they can't have the demos online like online computer games, except they could use a closed online network only accessable by the Wii so hackers can't get in and screw with them. I mean, they manged to do it with the shop channel, voting channel, and weather and news channels, why not just make a channel for demos that takes you online like those channels do? I think it could work.toolazyk
See now, that is a damn good plan. I was just complaining in my blog about this very thing. Stupid, I know, but Nintendo seems so unactive lately!

Wouldn't work, no way. Shop channel, voting channel etc already have the programs installed on the Wii system, all the Wii does is retrieve data from the internet. The programs dont actually run from their server.

Internet transfer rates are way too slow to run demos remotely, you would have like 1 frame every 10secs lol

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#28 meimnobody
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They don't want to demos for the following reason.

1. A badly designed or badly programmed, buggy demo for instance the first Painkiller demos often give an incredibly bad view of the game killing sales.

2. The demo is much better or reflects the game so well that word spreads with the resulting game sales are incredibly diminished.

3. More time is spent on the demo by the designers then the actual game. See number 1.

4. Demos can cause tech issues for the console. Bad tech issues.

5. Demos cost a lot of resources and to put them on the network costs money.

The thing you people don't understand is that demos are in fact advertising and hence are part of the advertising budget. Nintendo has far more effective advertising then a demo channel. A demo channel would kill wii vc sales. 5 bucks is an impulse purchase and most people find that well if the game stank it was only five bucks. A demo could cut those impulse purchases down.

There are a lot of xbox 360 users who only play the game demos and never buy the actual game they spent hundreds of hours playing a demo on.

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#29 Darkness-zora
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They should hav a demo channel which they havea single demo at a time
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#30 kingsy_the_one
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Lack of a hard drive, though i think we'll be getting both eventually..
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#31 nishamuffypuppy
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Yeah they could for Demos but you know ... I would honestly like to see one entire channel dedicaed to the upcoming Wii games, like the Metroid Channel. I know it's not neccessary, but who knows.
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#32 benben04
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its my understanding that nintendo is worried that more memory could be used to hack/rip/steal games, and then we could all get the games for free. something like this has happened with the PSP i heard. so more memory probably is not gonna happen. nintendo is still making tons of cash. if it ain't broke....
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#33 aznkid2o9
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Well they are introducing a wiiware channel next year which will have downloadable games, so lets hope they'll consider a HDD (although its doubtful)...