Why Nintendo didn't worked hard about Wii graphics?? :(

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#1 Resimaniac
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Nintendo... from N64 to Nintendo GameCube made a Huge difference (about graphics)

Why didn't Nintendo made the Same now?? :(
It makes me sad because RE:5 and much more 3rd Party games don't coming for WII

Without 3rd party games (good games) Wii can't make success by it Self (Nintendo games only)
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#2 x_SuperMario_x
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Nintendo... from N64 to Nintendo GameCube made a Huge difference (about graphics)

Why didn't Nintendo made the Same now?? :(
It makes me sad because RE:5 and much more 3rd Party games don't coming for WII

Without 3rd party games (good games) Wii can't make success by it Self (Nintendo games only)
Resimaniac

this thread is about a year too late, and there has already been multiple threads discussing the same issue.

Nintendo pushed for innovation, not power.

thread = broken.

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#3 Resimaniac
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[QUOTE="Resimaniac"]Nintendo... from N64 to Nintendo GameCube made a Huge difference (about graphics)

Why didn't Nintendo made the Same now?? :(
It makes me sad because RE:5 and much more 3rd Party games don't coming for WII

Without 3rd party games (good games) Wii can't make success by it Self (Nintendo games only)
x_SuperMario_x

this thread is about a year too late, and there has already been multiple threads discussing the same issue.

Nintendo pushed for innovation, not power.

thread = broken.



Sorry but I'm new on WII... I'm bored of searching that...

Any way... So It's because of the Moves from wii-remote?
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#4 haziqonfire
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Visuals can only go so far -- most developers use the extra power to improve the games graphics, not improve its AI or Physics. Thats why few next gen games actually feel, next gen -- with the wii we get some games that still can pull of beautiful visuals but add something that feels completely new (ex. metroid prime 3).
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#5 thriteenthmonke
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So their system wouldn't cost $599
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#6 lancea34
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I wish the Wii was like this:

CPU: 1 Ghrz

RAM: 128 RAM

GPU: 512 Mhrz

600p

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#7 arachosia
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Nintendo's goal with the Wii was to expand the video game market to include people who typically never play video games. One way to achieve this was by ensuring that the system was affordable to most people. Because they needed to keep the cost down, they weren't able to implement the cutting edge graphics technology that their competitors have. They sacrificed graphics to allow their system to be easier to attain.
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#8 ECG_24
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I wish the Wii was like this:

CPU: 1 Ghrz

RAM: 128 RAM

GPU: 512 Mhrz

600p

lancea34

Don't you mean 720p?

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#9 Yao-kun
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That's the way nintendo works, look at his past:

NES- Totally new console

SNES - Upgrade with better graphics

N64 - Totally new console, new 3D enviroments, etc.

GCN- Upgrade with better graphics

Wii - Totally new console, with motion and stuff

??? - Upgrade with better graphics

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#10 ZumaJones07
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^ I like that... C'mon SUPER Wii!! The same can be said about their handhelds.
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Certain successes on DS made Nintendo realise there was a new market waiting to milked of money, it has little to do with innovation, innovation does not have to come at the sacrifice of amazing graphics seen elsewhere. In Nintendo's eyes they made the assumption that the new userbase they hoped to attract would have little concern with graphics, and this despite the rapid innovations in GPU technology and how it has revolutionized gaming. It revolutionizes the very fabric of gaming when developers are able to replicate the real world attribiutes such as physics and textures and lighting. Nintendo have not aimed to do that, their games revolve around fantasy, not the replication of the real 3D environments. They have done so despite many of the credible developers wanting to create software of this kind.

Nintendo have chose a altenative route to where they see the future if gaming and the types of games they want to produce, and you now see those games in abundance now.

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Certain successes on DS made Nintendo realise there was a new market waiting to milked of money, it has little to do with innovation, innovation does not have to come at the sacrifice of amazing graphics seen elsewhere. In Nintendo's eyes they made the assumption that the new userbase they hoped to attract would have little concern with graphics, and this despite the rapid innovations in GPU technology and how it has revolutionized gaming. It revolutionizes the very fabric of gaming when developers are able to replicate the real world attribiutes such as physics and textures and lighting. Nintendo have not aimed to do that, their games revolve around fantasy, not the replication of the real 3D environments. They have done so despite many of the credible developers wanting to create software of this kind.

Nintendo have chose a altenative route to where they see the future if gaming and the types of games they want to produce, and you now see those games in abundance now.

linkyshinks

Exactly. Nintendo is a business and they changed their direction to make more money. And it's working.

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Certain successes on DS made Nintendo realise there was a new market waiting to milked of money, it has little to do with innovation, innovation does not have to come at the sacrifice of amazing graphics seen elsewhere. In Nintendo's eyes they made the assumption that the new userbase they hoped to attract would have little concern with graphics, and this despite the rapid innovations in GPU technology and how it has revolutionized gaming. It revolutionizes the very fabric of gaming when developers are able to replicate the real world attribiutes such as physics and textures and lighting. Nintendo have not aimed to do that, their games revolve around fantasy, not the replication of the real 3D environments. They have done so despite many of the credible developers wanting to create software of this kind.

Nintendo have chose a altenative route to where they see the future if gaming and the types of games they want to produce, and you now see those games in abundance now.

linkyshinks

You are completely wrong. Nintendo realized that gaming had been stuck since the days of the N64. Now we have two consoles that are just N64s on steroids with some decent graphics, and we have the Wii, that is changing the way games are played. Try Medal of Honor Heroes 2 with a Zapper or Mario Kart with a wheel to see just how dated the other systems are. I've played these other consoles, and I can't play them for more than 5-10 minutes at a time. Graphics do NOT revolutionize gaming. Besides, the Wii's graphics are just fine for me!

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#14 santiagochile
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[QUOTE="Resimaniac"]Nintendo... from N64 to Nintendo GameCube made a Huge difference (about graphics)

Why didn't Nintendo made the Same now?? :(
It makes me sad because RE:5 and much more 3rd Party games don't coming for WII

Without 3rd party games (good games) Wii can't make success by it Self (Nintendo games only)
x_SuperMario_x

this thread is about a year too late, and there has already been multiple threads discussing the same issue.

Nintendo pushed for innovation, not power.

thread = broken.

Not quite.

This thread = irrelevant

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#15 Lunar52
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Nintendo = Gameplay first and then Graphics.

As I am playing Super Mario Galaxy at the moment you can totally see the potential in Wii's hardware
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#16 lancea34
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[QUOTE="lancea34"]

I wish the Wii was like this:

CPU: 1 Ghrz

RAM: 128 RAM

GPU: 512 Mhrz

600p

ECG_24

Don't you mean 720p?

Oops! Sorry I meant 720p.

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Graphics power does matter because we wouldn't keep getting so many trash 3rd party games, and PS2 ports
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#18 santiagochile
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Graphics power does matter because we wouldn't keep getting so many trash 3rd party games, and PS2 portsclor0x

The graphics on the Wii are just fine. Look at Mario Galaxy. As for the cheap ports, no one is forcing you to buy them. The Wii is the best system out there.

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#19 Sephiroth__666
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I wish the Wii was like this:

CPU: 1 Ghrz

RAM: 128 RAM

GPU: 512 Mhrz

600p

lancea34

LMAO!!! I love your sig!

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[QUOTE="clor0x"]Graphics power does matter because we wouldn't keep getting so many trash 3rd party games, and PS2 portssantiagochile

The graphics on the Wii are just fine. Look at Mario Galaxy. As for the cheap ports, no one is forcing you to buy them. The Wii is the best system out there.

What santiagochile said. Anyways, to santiagochile, I'm just like u when u said about not playing the other systems so much as the Wii. I have a 360 but I'm playing with the Wii more. I like both consoles the same. However, the Wii feels more worth the price. I see in that maybe the next Nintendo console may upgrade to graphics and keep the motion-controls. The graphics for Microsoft and Sony systems shouldn't really upgrade so much next-gen. If its possible, than technology would be moving too fast.
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#21 dotWithShoes
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Nintendo... from N64 to Nintendo GameCube made a Huge difference (about graphics)

Why didn't Nintendo made the Same now?? :(
It makes me sad because RE:5 and much more 3rd Party games don't coming for WII

Without 3rd party games (good games) Wii can't make success by it Self (Nintendo games only)
Resimaniac

Very few good third party games so far and the Wii is doing wonderful.

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#22 ThePlothole
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Nintendo has always made hardware with two things in mind: That it be priced relatively cheap, and that it be immediately profitable. Unfortunately with Sony and Microsoft both pricing their consoles so high, and taking a substantial (200-300 Dollar) loss on each console sold, there was no way Nintendo could compete. Plus in trying to competing with similar hardware, they managed to loss market share for two generations in a row.
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#23 NALDOxCORE
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Okay, lets first analysize the errors in the title:

Why Nintendo didn't worked hard about Wii graphics?? :(

Error #1: Why didn't Nintendo worked hard about Wii graphics?? :(

Error #2: Why didn't Nintendo work hard about Wii graphics?? :(

Error #3: Why didn't Nintendo work hard on the Wii's graphics?? :(

Error #4: Why didn't Nintendo work hard on the Wii's graphics? :(

Based on the fact that there are four errors in grammar in the title of this topic alone, the opinion of the poster is worthless in this topic. I feel no need to further evaluate this topic.

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#26 Rocky32189
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By using outdated hardware, it allowed Nintendo to price their console well below their competitors and still make huge profits. That's the one and only reason.
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#27 Thiago26792
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Because they wanted to make a revolution.
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#28 GamerJM
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Because they wanted to focus on the more important things.

I have never cared about graphics, anyways.

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#29 littledoug
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yea i agree

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#31 Corvidae
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Okay, lets first analysize the errors in the title:

Why Nintendo didn't worked hard about Wii graphics?? :(

Error #1: Why didn't Nintendo worked hard about Wii graphics?? :(

Error #2: Why didn't Nintendo work hard about Wii graphics?? :(

Error #3: Why didn't Nintendo work hard on the Wii's graphics?? :(

Error #4: Why didn't Nintendo work hard on the Wii's graphics? :(

Based on the fact that there are four errors in grammar in the title of this topic alone, the opinion of the poster is worthless in this topic. I feel no need to further evaluate this topic.

NALDOxCORE

Ha ha, nice...

Reminds me of this:

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#32 Resimaniac
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any way...

Will the WII synchronise with the other consoles some Day?
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#33 Resimaniac
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any way...

Will the WII synchronise with the other consoles some Day?Resimaniac


Sorry I mean Nintendo
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Go play Barbie...
I hate those people with complex.... Resimaniac

Learn to speak. All your sentence fragments are giving me a headache.

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[QUOTE="Resimaniac"]any way...

Will the WII synchronise with the other consoles some Day?Resimaniac


Sorry I mean Nintendo

Only if there is a major shift in strategy from one or more of console makers. (eg. Nintendo sells at a loss... which they would have a more difficult time absorbing... or Sony/Microsoft significantly reduces the initial production cost on their hardware)
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#36 Elann2008
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Nintendo... from N64 to Nintendo GameCube made a Huge difference (about graphics)

Why didn't Nintendo made the Same now?? :(
It makes me sad because RE:5 and much more 3rd Party games don't coming for WII

Without 3rd party games (good games) Wii can't make success by it Self (Nintendo games only)
Resimaniac

I have a Wii and I feel the same way. Looks like Nintendo went the "casual" route. It's easier and cheaper for them to produce games and people still buy it. They do less work, but more people buy because of the Wii-mote and other "innovative" features. Even then, all I hear are excuses that the Wii is about gameplay over graphics and all that bullcrap. Every developer should work on games thinking how can I make this game look great AND play great. Not just one or the other. That's half-assing, imo. And you want to talk about innovation? Besides the Wii remote, nothing about it is innovative. Other games on Xbox 360 and PS3 push for innovation just as well but they still try to make their games at least look next-gen. Too many excuses from Nintendo if you ask me. Hell, they could have at least have the Wii support HD. AT LEAST...!

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#38 firefox59
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That's the way nintendo works, look at his past:

NES- Totally new console

SNES - Upgrade with better graphics

N64 - Totally new console, new 3D enviroments, etc.

GCN- Upgrade with better graphics

Wii - Totally new console, with motion and stuff

??? - Upgrade with better graphics

Yao-kun
I like this post. It provides hope.
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So their system wouldn't cost $599 thriteenthmonke

what competing console currently costs $599?

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#40 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]So their system wouldn't cost $599 chefstubbies

what competing console currently costs $599?

It doesn't matter how they're priced currently. Afterall, production costs go down with time. What they launched at is what really matters..
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#41 firefox59
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[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]So their system wouldn't cost $599 chefstubbies

what competing console currently costs $599?

Don't be like that. You know the PS3 was released at that price.
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#42 rgame1
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more exclusives on wii
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[QUOTE="Resimaniac"]

Go play Barbie...
I hate those people with complex.... ECG_24

Learn to speak. All your sentence fragments are giving me a headache.

He's a lost cause.

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That's the way nintendo works, look at his past:

NES- Totally new console

SNES - Upgrade with better graphics

N64 - Totally new console, new 3D enviroments, etc.

GCN- Upgrade with better graphics

Wii - Totally new console, with motion and stuff

??? - Upgrade with better graphics

Yao-kun

??? - We'll link up with Nintendo using our cyber brains into virtual reality. At this point hard copy games will be obsolete... we will just download them into our brain's memory. People are already intergrating technology "onto" the human body = Bluetooth Headsets... It's only a matter of time before technology is commonly intregrated "into" the human body. This may not happen with Nintendo's next console, but it probably will happen in the near future.

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#46 rockwii13
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On the contrary, Nintendo's doing just fine, heck, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the others and it doesn't have many third-party titles. Nintendo doesn't need to rely on other gaming companies to make their games for them, and they still come out on top.
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#47 osan0
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it boils down to this.

twice (or more....i think the snes and nes were the most powerful in their days but im not sure) ninty were at the forefront of console graphic technology. twice their hardware put the victor in the shade. hell with the GC they even made a more powerful console for mess money than the victor of that gen. and twice they recieved a thourough beating for their troubles.

message recieved. the market wasnt interested in the latest graphics tech.

theres no reason why ninty couldnt make somethign as powerful as the other platforms......but who here thinks it would be anywhere near as successful at 500-600 dollars at launch? and chances are thats the kind of cost ure looking at since the R&D for the new controllers and the new hardware would need to be covered and ninty dont do selling at a loss.