Wii Balance Board+FPS=best shooter experience in history

Have you ever played that game at an arcade where they place sensors around your body, and when you duck or lean, that's what happens on screen?

Well, I think this can now be done in the living room with the Wii balance board. I mean think about it, if it can sense weight shift and balance, you should be able to make a game where you can not only move around via the Nunchuck, but also be able to hide behind objects in your environment.

Now this would take a long time for a developer to do this, but just think of the possiblities besides Wii Fit that the balance board has. At first I was totally thinking the balance board would be a piece of trash, but after thinking about it, it may not be after all.

Thoughts?

I came up with this idea a while back. I basically said that peaking around corners while fully able to free aim and strafing side to side by leaning could easily be done in FPS games. This would make for a pretty immersive shooter, if of course built aroundspecifically to take advantage of these elements. People withtradional controller pads sometimes lean when they are strafing anyways. This is as far as it should go though. I don't think ducking would work especially since people aren't going to want to stand up the whole time. My idea of the Wiimote and nunchuck + the ballance board would still work fine sitting down.

I also came up with a way to get rid of the bounding box. Issues. I suggested that the C button on the nunchuck while held down should activate the camera, this way the faster you move left or right with the pointer,the faster the screens turns. So the controls would be even better then PC if it worked this way. When C isn't held down, your still simply able to free aim anywhere on the screen, accept the camera only follows when you activate it...

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I also came up with a way to get rid of the bounding box. Issues. I suggested that the C button on the nunchuck while held down should activate the camera, this way the faster you move left or right with the pointer,the faster the screens turns. So the controls would be even better then PC if it worked this way. When C isn't held down, your still simply able to free aim anywhere on the screen, accept the camera only follows when you activate it...

GoDsSoN770

so when you dont hold down c, you shoot wherever on the screen, and when you do hold c, it switches to the bounding box?

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I also came up with a way to get rid of the bounding box. Issues. I suggested that the C button on the nunchuck while held down should activate the camera, this way the faster you move left or right with the pointer,the faster the screens turns. So the controls would be even better then PC if it worked this way. When C isn't held down, your still simply able to free aim anywhere on the screen, accept the camera only follows when you activate it...

GunSmith1_basic

so when you dont hold down c, you shoot wherever on the screen, and when you do hold c, it switches to the bounding box?

No theres no bounding box used, meaning you would not have to move the cursor to the edge ,or outside the bounding box for the screen to turn.So while the C buttonis being held, this activates the camera, so where ever the pointer goes the camera goes. So if the pointer even moves an inch from the center of the screen, the view will turn and inch. So the faster and more you move it up, down, left, or right, the more the camera moves. This wouldoffer much faster turning, while still allowing pin point accuracy,making it even superior to thepc control config. This is why it is activated by a button press. You really only need it when changing your players view point. Which would require a small adjustment activated by the press and holding a completely accessable button. Just like in real life changing your view point requires an adjustment ,(turning your head,your body etc.) the same would apply to the game.

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="GoDsSoN770"] ...

I also came up with a way to get rid of the bounding box. Issues. I suggested that the C button on the nunchuck while held down should activate the camera, this way the faster you move left or right with the pointer,the faster the screens turns. So the controls would be even better then PC if it worked this way. When C isn't held down, your still simply able to free aim anywhere on the screen, accept the camera only follows when you activate it...

GoDsSoN770

so when you dont hold down c, you shoot wherever on the screen, and when you do hold c, it switches to the bounding box?

No theres no bounding box used, meaning you would not have to move the cursor to the edge ,or outside the bounding boxfor the screen to turn. When C is held this activates the camera, so where ever the pointer goes the camera goes. So as if the pointer even moves an inch from the center of the screen, the view will turn and inch. So the faster and more you move it up, down, left, or right, the more the camera moves. This is why it is activated by a button press. You really only need it when changing your players view point. Which would require a small adjustment activated by the press and holding a completely accessable button. Just like in real life changing your view point requires an adjustment ,(turning your head,your body etc.) the same would apply to the game.

It seems like this would make the camera excellent for someone really in control, but if you lose any focus the camera will swing around violently. Why not just use the motion sensors in the nunchuck to look around with the camera?

[QUOTE="GoDsSoN770"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="GoDsSoN770"] ...

I also came up with a way to get rid of the bounding box. Issues. I suggested that the C button on the nunchuck while held down should activate the camera, this way the faster you move left or right with the pointer,the faster the screens turns. So the controls would be even better then PC if it worked this way. When C isn't held down, your still simply able to free aim anywhere on the screen, accept the camera only follows when you activate it...

GunSmith1_basic

so when you dont hold down c, you shoot wherever on the screen, and when you do hold c, it switches to the bounding box?

No theres no bounding box used, meaning you would not have to move the cursor to the edge ,or outside the bounding boxfor the screen to turn. When C is held this activates the camera, so where ever the pointer goes the camera goes. So as if the pointer even moves an inch from the center of the screen, the view will turn and inch. So the faster and more you move it up, down, left, or right, the more the camera moves. This is why it is activated by a button press. You really only need it when changing your players view point. Which would require a small adjustment activated by the press and holding a completely accessable button. Just like in real life changing your view point requires an adjustment ,(turning your head,your body etc.) the same would apply to the game.

It seems like this would make the camera excellent for someone really in control, but if you lose any focus the camera will swing around violently. Why not just use the motion sensors in the nunchuck to look around with the camera?

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="GoDsSoN770"] ...

I also came up with a way to get rid of the bounding box. Issues. I suggested that the C button on the nunchuck while held down should activate the camera, this way the faster you move left or right with the pointer,the faster the screens turns. So the controls would be even better then PC if it worked this way. When C isn't held down, your still simply able to free aim anywhere on the screen, accept the camera only follows when you activate it...

GoDsSoN770

so when you dont hold down c, you shoot wherever on the screen, and when you do hold c, it switches to the bounding box?

No theres no bounding box used, meaning you would not have to move the cursor to the edge ,or outside the bounding box for the screen to turn.So while the C buttonis being held, this activates the camera, so where ever the pointer goes the camera goes. So if the pointer even moves an inch from the center of the screen, the view will turn and inch. So the faster and more you move it up, down, left, or right, the more the camera moves. This wouldoffer much faster turning, while still allowing pin point accuracy,making it even superior to thepc control config. This is why it is activated by a button press. You really only need it when changing your players view point. Which would require a small adjustment activated by the press and holding a completely accessable button. Just like in real life changing your view point requires an adjustment ,(turning your head,your body etc.) the same would apply to the game.

Intersting idea but... wouldn't you have to stop, hold C, then push the nunchunk where you want to go? Because if you didnt stop and you moved using the nunchck, if you hold C your screen would go wacky if you didnt stop first. Please help if im misunderstanding you.

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="GoDsSoN770"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="GoDsSoN770"] ...

I also came up with a way to get rid of the bounding box. Issues. I suggested that the C button on the nunchuck while held down should activate the camera, this way the faster you move left or right with the pointer,the faster the screens turns. So the controls would be even better then PC if it worked this way. When C isn't held down, your still simply able to free aim anywhere on the screen, accept the camera only follows when you activate it...

GoDsSoN770

so when you dont hold down c, you shoot wherever on the screen, and when you do hold c, it switches to the bounding box?

No theres no bounding box used, meaning you would not have to move the cursor to the edge ,or outside the bounding boxfor the screen to turn. When C is held this activates the camera, so where ever the pointer goes the camera goes. So as if the pointer even moves an inch from the center of the screen, the view will turn and inch. So the faster and more you move it up, down, left, or right, the more the camera moves. This is why it is activated by a button press. You really only need it when changing your players view point. Which would require a small adjustment activated by the press and holding a completely accessable button. Just like in real life changing your view point requires an adjustment ,(turning your head,your body etc.) the same would apply to the game.

It seems like this would make the camera excellent for someone really in control, but if you lose any focus the camera will swing around violently. Why not just use the motion sensors in the nunchuck to look around with the camera?

[QUOTE="GoDsSoN770"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="GoDsSoN770"] ...

I also came up with a way to get rid of the bounding box. Issues. I suggested that the C button on the nunchuck while held down should activate the camera, this way the faster you move left or right with the pointer,the faster the screens turns. So the controls would be even better then PC if it worked this way. When C isn't held down, your still simply able to free aim anywhere on the screen, accept the camera only follows when you activate it...

DrummerDude1010

so when you dont hold down c, you shoot wherever on the screen, and when you do hold c, it switches to the bounding box?

No theres no bounding box used, meaning you would not have to move the cursor to the edge ,or outside the bounding box for the screen to turn.So while the C buttonis being held, this activates the camera, so where ever the pointer goes the camera goes. So if the pointer even moves an inch from the center of the screen, the view will turn and inch. So the faster and more you move it up, down, left, or right, the more the camera moves. This wouldoffer much faster turning, while still allowing pin point accuracy,making it even superior to thepc control config. This is why it is activated by a button press. You really only need it when changing your players view point. Which would require a small adjustment activated by the press and holding a completely accessable button. Just like in real life changing your view point requires an adjustment ,(turning your head,your body etc.) the same would apply to the game.

Intersting idea but... wouldn't you have to stop, hold C, then push the nunchunk where you want to go? Because if you didnt stop and you moved using the nunchck, if you hold C your screen would go wacky if you didnt stop first. Please help if im misunderstanding you.

The movement tied to the analog stick has nothing to do with the movement of the camera. The camera movement is tied to the Wii-mote andIR pointer. However when C is held this activates the camera which is manipulated by the Wii-mote and IR pointer. When C is not held your simply looking at whats in front of you.Try walking foward in your housewith a Wii-mote and nunchuck in your hand. Say you were walking out of your room. You need to probably make a turn. So you'd hold C then move the Wii-mote in the direction of your turn. Im serious try it. You really don't even need the Wii remote and nunhcuk in your hand to envision it. Just imagine it in your hands. N dont forget the analog on the nunchuck is controller your forward and backward movements. This might help..

If you use the motion sensors, how will you control how fast you want to turn. Plus having your view point control and movement in the same hand would make it a little confusing. Not only that, the nunchuck would already have motions set to it. Like reloading or throwing grenades.GoDsSoN770

first off, if a game used the motion sensors for cameras, just abandon all other motion sensing.

For camera, use the position detection motion sensing, which is by far the most accurate motion sensing on the wii. By that I mean like that game in warioware where it tells you to mimic a position for the wiimote, like a 90 degree twist to the right, etc. Also, like turning in SSX, it's very responsive to position detection, moreso than gestures like grenade throwing or throwing punches in wiiboxing for that matter. Anyway, the game would default in freeaim mode like you say, where left and right are strafing. You would lean the nunchuck to the left to turn left, right to turn right, up to look up, down to look down (maybe turn down the sensitivity on the looking up and down function to keep it stable). Anyway, for looking left and right, if you really cranked it, like 90 degrees in that direction, then you would turn really fast and stop when you jerked it back to the original position. Tilt it slightly to turn slightly.

edit: btw, I do think your scheme could be tweaked to be better, and that the one I'm suggesting would probably have its own problems. I would lkie to be able to actually try them :)

That would work too, it would be tight.

you do realize the the wiimote and nunchuck could detect if you were leaning too right? you wouldnt need the board to do any of that...theICE_MAN

Ok, that works with Wii boxing. How would you strafe and shoot while leaning with the Wii-mote and nunchuck. The Wii-pointer wouldn't be able to stay on the screen with you leaning. So that would not work buddy.

I think the game you're talking about is Police 911, they also made a japanese PS2 version with a sensor.

Yeah, something similar might work, might make a good arcade shooter, but a console FPS would need some work.

While both our controls schemes would definately improve the camera, turnings speeds etc. Your control scheme in a way would take away a little bit of the precision.By this I mean since you'd be controlling your view point with the nunchuck, which is seperate from the Wii-mote, your view point and your aim wouldn't be the same. When playing an FPS your view point and your aim should always be the same. Just like in real life. When your aiming at something your looking at it.So it wouldn't make since to be aiming at something your not looking at. Or be looking at something your not aiming at unless you had no weapon. Thats the only problem I see with the nunchuck controlling the camera. Instead of Aim up + shoot. It would sorta be more like Look up then aim and shoot.. You see what im getting at???GoDsSoN770