Wii Component Cables? Makes it worse?

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#1 beans_n_wiiniis
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Anyone think that this actually made the graphics worse? It seems that you can see more of the pixels or jaggies. I have only tested this on Wii Sports and Blazing Angels, but what's the deal? Anyone?
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#2 AsadMahdi59
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well wii sports looks worse with component cables and certain parts of zelda also looked worse butsince got my comp cables i havent switched back to test other games.
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#3 Jaysonguy
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Component cables enhance EVERYTHING good and bad.
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#4 beans_n_wiiniis
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well wii sports looks worse with component cables and certain parts of zelda also looked worse butsince got my comp cables i havent switched back to test other games.AsadMahdi59

So I'm not the only one who noticed then? Good I was thinking that it was just my setup. That's too bad..... Hopefully more games will take advantage of the 480p. Is there any way you can tell?

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#5 l8bitz
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Component cables enhance EVERYTHING good and bad.Jaysonguy

Good Call

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#6 beans_n_wiiniis
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So is there anyway of telling on the games which is HD 480p or not?
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#7 elektrixxx
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So is there anyway of telling on the games which is HD 480p or not?beans_n_wiiniis

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#8 yonnex
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Also if you look on the back of the game pack it states in the top right hand corner if the game supports 480p
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#9 furtherfan
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let me guess, you have a HD LCD screen?
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#10 skingus
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let me guess, you have a HD LCD screen?furtherfan

Which type of HDTV should you use if not LCD? Do plasmas cut back on jaggies? I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

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#11 _N_R_G_
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My component cables seem ok, all the bad its done is make the screen look really dark
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#12 furtherfan
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My component cables seem ok, all the bad its done is make the screen look really dark_N_R_G_

that's not right... component cables do the following things:

-better colour

-better color separation

-better black values (more detail in dark areas)

-make the image sharper (also the jaggies)

-less artifacts

if your screen supports progressive scan, you can do that with component cables. smoother image with less artifacts and less jaggies in DIAGONAL lines: this is because normaly the image is build up in two times (first the even lines, then the uneven lines). with progressive scan the image is build up entirely each frame.

[QUOTE="furtherfan"]let me guess, you have a HD LCD screen?skingus

Which type of HDTV should you use if not LCD? Do plasmas cut back on jaggies? I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

doesn't really matter, but LCD is really sharp. some lcd's have some anti aliassing in the tv... but that mostly means it's less sharp.

wii games are mostly jaggie. on a HDTV is just more appearent

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#13 _N_R_G_
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[QUOTE="_N_R_G_"]My component cables seem ok, all the bad its done is make the screen look really darkfurtherfan

that's not right... component cables do the following things:

-better colour

-better color separation

-better black values (more detail in dark areas)

-make the image sharper (also the jaggies)

-less artifacts

if your screen supports progressive scan, you can do that with component cables. smoother image with less artifacts and less jaggies in DIAGONAL lines: this is because normaly the image is build up in two times (first the even lines, then the uneven lines). with progressive scan the image is build up entirely each frame.

So what are you saying?
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#14 _N_R_G_
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I dont really get what you was on about, when i first got my wii with composite cables there was no problem with brightness, but now i have to ajust it alot with component cables because it made it dark
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#15 furtherfan
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So what are you saying?_N_R_G_

brightness should NOT be a problem. at all.

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#16 j03yAsunder
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I've been using the Wii brand component cables w/ my 26" LCD and I've noticed these vertical lines in the Wii menu, and channels also these rectangle boxes in the message board aligned all in the center horizontally. Has anyone noticed this or know what the hell this is? Nintendo doesn't know and I can't find anyone in the forums that know either. Any info will be helpful, thanx in advance.
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#17 X360PS3AMD05
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Jaggies yes, but i love the widescreen goodness :D
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#18 _N_R_G_
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brightness should NOT be a problem. at all.

But IT is

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#19 furtherfan
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brightness should NOT be a problem. at all.

_N_R_G_

But IT is

tha's either something with your tv or something with the Wii.. or the cables.

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#20 luke1889
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My Wii looks substantially worse on my HDTV with component cables than it does on my SDTV with composite. :?

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#21 furtherfan
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My Wii looks substantially worse on my HDTV with component cables than it does on my SDTV with composite. :?

luke1889

in what way?

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#22 luke1889
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[QUOTE="luke1889"]

My Wii looks substantially worse on my HDTV with component cables than it does on my SDTV with composite. :?

furtherfan

in what way?

Jaggies are emphasised mainly. Having said that, I've only got Wii Sports, Zelda and Red Steel.

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#23 furtherfan
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[QUOTE="furtherfan"][QUOTE="luke1889"]

My Wii looks substantially worse on my HDTV with component cables than it does on my SDTV with composite. :?

luke1889

in what way?

Jaggies are emphasised mainly. Having said that, I've only got Wii Sports, Zelda and Red Steel.

Wii was designed for a Standard tv. on a Big LCD, and with component cables, the jaggies will only become MORE appearent...

it's bets to play wii games on a screen not bigger than 32 inch....

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#24 _N_R_G_
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tha's either something with your tv or something with the Wii.. or the cables.

Well i no my wii and cables are fine because my friend put in his 360 with his component cables and it was still dark. Dont get me wrong the quality is much better with component cables it just makes it more dark.

Maybe it is my TV but i really dout it as its quite new and decent, but it dont really matter as the games are still playable.

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#25 furtherfan
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_N_R_G_

tha's either something with your tv or something with the Wii.. or the cables.

Well i no my wii and cables are fine because my friend put in his 360 with his component cables and it was still dark. Dont get me wrong the quality is much better with component cables it just makes it more dark.

Maybe it is my TV but i really dout it as its quite new and decent, but it dont really matter as the games are still playable.

try putting it in 480i

if the problems are gone, the screen does not support progressive scan

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#26 _N_R_G_
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Putting the wii in 480i or my TV, in my wii settings it is already on EDTV
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#27 furtherfan
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Putting the wii in 480i or my TV, in my wii settings it is already on EDTV_N_R_G_

the Wii in 480i with component cables.

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#28 Gangans
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[QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="furtherfan"][QUOTE="luke1889"]

My Wii looks substantially worse on my HDTV with component cables than it does on my SDTV with composite. :?

furtherfan

in what way?

Jaggies are emphasised mainly. Having said that, I've only got Wii Sports, Zelda and Red Steel.

Wii was designed for a Standard tv. on a Big LCD, and with component cables, the jaggies will only become MORE appearent...

it's bets to play wii games on a screen not bigger than 32 inch....

This isn't entirely true. My wii looks better on my bigger 42inch than on my 32inch. Why? It's simple, better tv. Better quality digital scaler. Better image quality, less jaggies.

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#29 _N_R_G_
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[QUOTE="_N_R_G_"]Putting the wii in 480i or my TV, in my wii settings it is already on EDTVfurtherfan

the Wii in 480i with component cables.

Yup thats what i have it on normally, would it make a difference if i had component cables in but put it to 60ghz or what ever it is?

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#30 KevComesRipping
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I've got a 37" LCD and Zelda just looks like crap, I'm glad I beat it on my projection SDTV before I got my new TV, Resident Evil 4 looks incredible though, better than Gamecube or PS2 by a long shot, I think the further we go along the better Wii games will look on HDTV's which I hope will go for Metroid 3, because I'm oozing with excitement over that game right now.
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#31 furtherfan
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[QUOTE="furtherfan"]

[QUOTE="_N_R_G_"]Putting the wii in 480i or my TV, in my wii settings it is already on EDTV_N_R_G_

the Wii in 480i with component cables.

Yup thats what i have it on normally, would it make a difference if i had component cables in but put it to 60ghz or what ever it is?

maybe, i'm baffled... don't know/.

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#32 cobalt76
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Hey man. My wii is hooked up to a 32" westinghouse LCD using component. I have the same type of lines you do. I've been looking and looking trying to figure out the problem. The vertical lines are evenly spaced, no flicker, not seeming to be getting worse. my mail area also has the boxy shapes evenly spaced. THis doesn't seem to match the problem with flickering lines type lines that people have when wii connect 24 has over-heated their console. BTW. I swapped a buddies Wii With mine. EVERYTHING the same except the wii consoles. His showed the "lines" too. Also can be seen sometimes in games for me. wii sports baseball in the sky with certain scenes, colors and brightness in mario galaxy. Nintendo knew nothing. Lemme know if you figured anything out. I wonder if it's the scaler in my LCD TV. i swapped to nintendo branded component cables recently. no change. Thanks. Jason
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#33 evilQ8
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check RE4 on wii & RE4 on game cube
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#34 codezer0
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:| Did you bother to enable progressive scan? If you haven't already, you really should.
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#35 maitrechinois
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iv gopt 32po lcd tv with component cable and my wii set at 480p and it is just better than sdtv with composite and 480i

maybe you buy the cheapest component cable thats why

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#37 l8bitz
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Who brought this topic back? It started like 6 months ago...

And for the record, component cables are still better.

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#38 dewmandew7
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Component cables enhance EVERYTHING good and bad.Jaysonguy

It makes you realise that the Wii will be replaced in two or three years.

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[QUOTE="_N_R_G_"][QUOTE="furtherfan"]

[QUOTE="_N_R_G_"]Putting the wii in 480i or my TV, in my wii settings it is already on EDTVfurtherfan

the Wii in 480i with component cables.

Yup thats what i have it on normally, would it make a difference if i had component cables in but put it to 60ghz or what ever it is?

maybe, i'm baffled... don't know/.

Maybe it provides a better contrast to the picture and since he's been used to the brightness blending, it looks darker now that the contrast is better.

I could be wrong.

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#40 puissance000
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any vga for the wii?
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#41 boostud
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Wii's graphics suck for todays standards. They are going to be jaggy....its a low resolution system.
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#42 freddy_fries
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I purchased 3rd party componet cables and i noticed the biggesd dif when playing MP8.. I have not payed much attention to any other games..
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#43 wiiguyftw
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I have a flat screen EDTV by slvania with component cables and super mario galaxies looks fantastic everything is so bright and beautiful i havent even played any other games since i got the tv on chrisymas but im sure they look fine aswell
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#44 _Devastator
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My cables did exactly what I expected, it made everything more 'clear' while showing all of the jagged 'round' edges.

Try this at home or the office. Take a stack of sticky notes and make the best circle you can.Then takea magnifying to examine the quality of your circle.

Let me know when the edge is 'smooth.' I won't be holding my breath.

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#46 Jaysonguy
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Wii's graphics suck for todays standards. They are going to be jaggy....its a low resolution system.boostud

Hate to tell you this (not really) but today's standard is a 4:3 set in SD

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#47 AlbertoML
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I have a 20" SDTV. Is it worth buying the component cables? The TV cannot do 480p, only 480i. BTW, Wii games look GREAT on a SDTV if you set it up correctly, no jaggies here :D
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#48 bball_freak_2
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im getting these tonight.. oh also ive got my wii set up on a Samsung 42' LCD, and when i went to settings to change it from normal tv to HD it wont let me, any help?

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#49 Jaysonguy
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I have a 20" SDTV. Is it worth buying the component cables? The TV cannot do 480p, only 480i. BTW, Wii games look GREAT on a SDTV if you set it up correctly, no jaggies here :DAlbertoML

Yes, you wont get progressive scan but you will get brighter colors and deeper blacks.

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#50 Jaysonguy
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im getting these tonight.. oh also ive got my wii set up on a Samsung 42' LCD, and when i went to settings to change it from normal tv to HD it wont let me, any help?

bball_freak_2

It's because you don't have component cables.

Once you get them you'll be able to set it.