What happened to all these "amazing game engines" that have came out or have been modified for the wii? I mean wih all these you would excpet better games right? So far the Quantum 3 Engine by Highvoltage Software seems to be theone focued on a lot but what happened to the others?

Here are some i found with a little info attached:

Torque:

Eugene, OR, July 16, 2007 -- GarageGames, the leading technology provider for independent game makers, and Pronto Games, professional PC and console game developer, are pleased to announce the availability of Torque licensing for the Wii console. First shown at the Nintendo Developer Conference in June, Torque for Wii is based on the popular Torque Game Engine, with built-in support for the unique Wii controller, making it a complete package for both disc-based and downloadable Wii games.

"I think every game designer has a few ideas about how they could use the Wii console's extraordinary features to make fun games," commented Josh Williams, GarageGames CEO. "Torque for Wii makes it easier to focus on creating high-quality experiences for the Wii, rather than implementing the technologies and tools it takes to just get started."

Nintendo recently announced the availability of the WiiWare service, which will allow developers of all types to create downloadable games for sale through the Wii Shop Channel. According to GarageGames, heavily discounted license pricing is available for games targeting the WiiWare downloadable service, versus those aiming for shelf space at the local game store.

In addition to Wii Remote support, Torque for Wii supports skinned mesh rendering, advanced character and shape animation, terrains with seamless indoor/outdoor transitions, environmental effects, industry-leading networked multiplayer game support, collision detection and physics, a bevy of rendering effects, compressed textures, and more, all optimized for Wii. Additional features include a powerful WYSIWYG tool chain for designers, scripting language support, a comprehensive Lot Check compliance component, and Wii graphics and audio abstraction layers. These modifications to the Torque Game Engine combined with the existing Torque toolset and pipeline make Torque for Wii a complete game development solution for the Wii console. Pronto Games, who developed the Wii port, is also using the technology for their upcoming Wii exclusive game, The Destiny of Zorro.

"We chose to develop The Destiny of Zorro with the Torque Game Engine because of its proven reliability and our developers' familiarity with it," said Randy Angle, President and Creative Director of Pronto Games. "Partnering with GarageGames to make the Torque Game Engine available to other Wii developers seemed like the obvious next step, and we look forward to seeing the creation of even more quality Wii titles as a result."

For more information regarding the Torque for Wii license, please contact GarageGames at sales@garagegames.com or 541-345-3040.

About Pronto Games
Pronto Games brings depth of experience to all facets of game production: inventive game design, solid project management, quality artwork, and innovative technology. By combining professional expertise with a passion for fun, Pronto Games creates great entertainment for casual and core players on handhelds, mobile, toys, and disc or downloadable content for the PC, Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii. Pronto Games can be found on the web at www.prontogames.com

Gamebryo's Next Gen Engine Now Supports WiiTM

CALABASAS, CA--(Marketwire - September 12, 2007) - Emergent Game Technologies today announced the Wii™ version of its highly acclaimed next generation games engine, Gamebryo. Already powering many of the industry's leading console and PC titles, Gamebryo is optimized for accelerated cross-platform development on symmetric and asymmetric multiprocessor and single processor systems. Designed to enable teams to focus on their games and not on integrating complicated or poorly documented tools, Gamebryo now gives developers of Wii titles a significant head start by implementing numerous necessary development features that do not typically come with standard SDKs.

"We are delighted to announce the Wii port of our Gamebryo engine. With the success of Nintendo's Wii console catching much of the industry off guard and offering fresh interactive features, developers need new tools to be able to develop for multiple platforms that offer vastly different capabilities and require different programming techniques," said Geoffrey Selzer, CEO of Emergent. "We are committed to making multiplatform development as painless as possible while still delivering industry leading performance. Gamebryo for Wii simply sets a new standard for middleware designed for this top selling platform. We are very proud to be part of Nintendo's Third Party Tools program."

Emergent also recently unveiled a significant upgrade to its Gamebryo games engine focused on performance and feature enhancements for next-generation platforms. With the release of Gamebryo 2.3, dramatic rendering results are now possible with significantly fewer development resources required for production.

Gamebryo is a powerful component of Emergent Elements, a family of modular tools designed to give developers the flexibility and control they need to create breakthrough gaming experiences.

Gamebryo has been fully optimized for development on PLAYSTATION®3, Xbox 360™, and PC, and has recently gained attention as the engine used in Bethesda Softworks' record-breaking Xbox 360™, PLAYSTATION®3 and PC title, "The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion" and on its upcoming "Fallout 3" across the same platforms. Gamebryo is also being used by EA-Mythic on its upcoming "Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning." Gamebryo is a mature software product that ships with 3,500 pages of fully indexed, searchable documentation. To date, Gamebryo has been used in more than 200 games titles ranging from massively multiplayer online games, high-end retail games across multiple genres, and casual games.

Unity Game Engine

• Integrated development environment with hierarchical, visual editing, detailed property inspectors and live game preview [4]. Due to ease of use and speed of development, Unity is sometimes used for rapid development and prototyping [5][6].
• Deployment as Microsoft Windows executable, Mac OS X executable, on the web (via the Unity Web Player plugin for Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, Mozilla, Netscape, and Camino), Mac OS X Dashboard widget, Wii executable and iPhone application [7].
• Automatic asset importing - assets load into Unity and automatically imported, and are re-imported if the asset is updated [8]. Assets are created externally, in various 3D modeling, graphics, and audio software. These assets are then imported and assembled into a game using Unity. Although many of the most popular 3D modeling applications are supported by Unity, its integration with Maya, Blender, Cinema 4D, and Cheetah3D are the most complete.
• Graphics engine uses Direct3D (Windows), OpenGL (Mac, Windows) and proprietary APIs (Wii) [9]. Support for Bumpmapping, Reflection mapping, Parallax mapping, dynamic shadows using shadow maps, render-to-texture and full-screen post processing effects.
• ShaderLab language for using shaders, supporting both declarative "programming" of the fixed-function pipeline and shader programs written in Cg or GLSL[10]. A shader can include multiple variants and a declarative fallback specification, allowing Unity to detect the best variant for the current video card and if none are compatible, fall back to an alternative shader that may sacrifice features for broader compatibility.
• Built-in Support for the Ageia'sPhysXphysics engine[11] (version 2.6.2).
• Game Scripting via Mono [12]. Scripting is built on Mono, the open source implementation of the .NET Framework. Because of this, programmers can use JavaScript, C# or Boo (which has a Python-inspired syntax).
• The Unity Asset Server - A full version control solution for all game assets and scripts and optimized for multi-gigabyte projects with thousands of multi-megabyte files.
• Audio system built on OpenAL library, with ability to play back Ogg Vorbis compressed audio. Video playback using Theora codec [13].
• A terrain and vegetation engine [14].

Quantum 3:

High Voltage Games, the team behind the brand-new title The Conduit is creating the Quantum3 engine to power their new FPS experience. Featuring "real-time normal mapping, reflection and refraction, post process full screen effects, real-time shadows, projected lights and textures, specularity and fresnel effects, emissive and iridescent materials, interactive water, [and] morphing," all purportedly running at a smooth frame rate.

High Voltage says the Quantum3 engine will provide Wii developers a solid system to develop Wii games that are on par with the graphical offerings of the Xbox 360. The company is making it their personal mission to set a trend in the Wii community where games include more than just a unique play experience, but also offer top-notch graphics.

yea me too Quantum 3 is really good

but I think I read somewhere that Highvoltage stated that they where not a middle-ware company and they were still deciding to liscense it or not :\

I would think that Nintendo could make a Game Engine that developers could use to make amazing looking games I mean look at Zelda Twilight Princess that had great graphics and that was a Gamecube game

yea me too Quantum 3 is really good

but I think I read somewhere that Highvoltage stated that they where not a middle-ware company and they were still deciding to liscense it or not :\

I would think that Nintendo could make a Game Engine that developers could use to make amazing looking games I mean look at Zelda Twilight Princess that had great graphics and that was a Gamecube game

DarthFudgeums

Nintendo will never make an engine just to liscense it. Really, with the wii, devs should just create custom engines that suit the games they're making. Its too much money to buy an engine especially if it doesn't suit the purpose needed. High Voltage needs to liscense the engine after the Conduit. It'll net them some nice change for their next project.

Whats your point? There just game engines.SSBFan12

The point is to have a conversation that doesn't involve the same (name hardcore wii games, when is Nintendo going to realease the next Zelda or Star Fox or F-Zero or a JasonGuy topic where everyone disagrees with him and attacks each other). If you have nothing to contribute don't post in the thread, don't insult one of the more original topics on this board.

lol

what im still trying to figure out is how are these getting implemented into wii games or if they are being used at all.

We see tech demos of The Conduits engine at work but what about the others? Which were announced sometime earlier.

A quick look on wiki shows that Gamebyro is being used in the making of Sadness and was used to make Tenchu 4 and Bully.Devil-Itachi

[QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]A quick look on wiki shows that Gamebyro is being used in the making of Sadness and was used to make Tenchu 4 and Bully.osan0

I honestly hate when companies brag about their so called sweet engines and what they can do. I mean, obviously...the more they can do the better for us. But, even the companies that make/use them on a regular basis think they max them out completely...some other dev out there could do a few tricks and completely master it themselves.

Engines are nice, but it honestly comes down to the devs to work the magic. Some teams just understand them completely, and some just understand what can't be done.

I honestly hate when companies brag about their so called sweet engines and what they can do. I mean, obviously...the more they can do the better for us. But, even the companies that make/use them on a regular basis think they max them out completely...some other dev out there could do a few tricks and completely master it themselves.

Engines are nice, but it honestly comes down to the devs to work the magic. Some teams just understand them completely, and some just understand what can't be done.

danger_ranger95

[QUOTE="SSBFan12"]Whats your point? There just game engines.ActicEdge

The point is to have a conversation that doesn't involve the same (name hardcore wii games, when is Nintendo going to realease the next Zelda or Star Fox or F-Zero or a JasonGuy topic where everyone disagrees with him and attacks each other). If you have nothing to contribute don't post in the thread, don't insult one of the more original topics on this board.

Oh god not the Unity engine. i hate that thing. Also to the guy above me havok is a physics engine.painguy1

i know its a physics engine. i thought we where talking about engines in general and not just build engines. my bad.

[QUOTE="painguy1"]Oh god not the Unity engine. i hate that thing. Also to the guy above me havok is a physics engine.mikia07

i know its a physics engine. i thought we where talking about engines in general and not just build engines. my bad.

o lol. sry

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[QUOTE="SSBFan12"]Whats your point? There just game engines.Sepewrath

The point is to have a conversation that doesn't involve the same (name hardcore wii games, when is Nintendo going to realease the next Zelda or Star Fox or F-Zero or a JasonGuy topic where everyone disagrees with him and attacks each other). If you have nothing to contribute don't post in the thread, don't insult one of the more original topics on this board.

[QUOTE="painguy1"]Oh god not the Unity engine. i hate that thing. Also to the guy above me havok is a physics engine.mikia07

i know its a physics engine. i thought we where talking about engines in general and not just build engines. my bad.

[QUOTE="gamefan67"]Wow. An original post on the Wii forum!?! On a more serious note, I believe that the Quantam 3 engine is the most impressive out of the ones listed. The one being used for Cursed Mountain is looking good too.DarthFudgeums

Its called the Athena engine. It suppose to be good for lighting and HDR effects.

What type of engine does PyroBlazer use? That game looks phenomenal for Wii and I don't even think it's being made my a huge company. http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14245910/pyroblazer/videos/PyroblazerInGameMovie_110608.html livinitup01

Whoa a high velocity racer, nice! Looks good, I encourage people to look at this! http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14245910/pyroblazer/videos/PyroblazerInGameMovie_110608.html

Never heard of it before, thanks.

[QUOTE="gamefan67"]Wow. An original post on the Wii forum!?! On a more serious note, I believe that the Quantam 3 engine is the most impressive out of the ones listed. The one being used for Cursed Mountain is looking good too.DarthFudgeums

[QUOTE="DarthFudgeums"][QUOTE="gamefan67"]Wow. An original post on the Wii forum!?! On a more serious note, I believe that the Quantam 3 engine is the most impressive out of the ones listed. The one being used for Cursed Mountain is looking good too.ActicEdge

Its called the Athena engine. It suppose to be good for lighting and HDR effects.

Is Capcom licensing the engine for Monster Hunter Tri? The game looks beautiful btw.speedracer3190

Oh wow people look at this :o

http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14248157/the-conduit/videos/conduit_devfeaturesvid_011509.html

Oh wow people look at this :o

http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14248157/the-conduit/videos/conduit_devfeaturesvid_011509.html

DarthFudgeums

I really like it but it just looks like a less detailed half-life 2... maybe it's just me...

[QUOTE="DarthFudgeums"]

Oh wow people look at this :o

http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14248157/the-conduit/videos/conduit_devfeaturesvid_011509.html

manicgigantic

I really like it but it just looks like a less detailed half-life 2... maybe it's just me...

you answered your question. lol, one any way, the condult uses the last one you mention silly

you answered your question. lol, one any way, the condult uses the last one you mention silly

mariokart64fan