Wii HD due by 2011, opinions?

Heard of some speculations of a Wii HD due by 2011, here's the article:

Link for GameSpot's article: GameSpot

Link to "What They Play"(or you can click the link on GameSpot's article): What They Play

I'm pretty sure you guys already know those, just think of this thread as a place to put your opinions on those topic. IMO, I think this is a good thing because I myself and a lot of other people I know want some better looking visuals on the Wii, I'm not sure if the graphics are going to be phenominally improved but atleast make it look good, it'll be a good start. Gotta say though, the black looks good.

*NOTE* Sorry if this kind of topic already exists relating to the Wii HD (was too lazy to check if you want a reason...)

It's not happening. And it's a good thing that you apologized, because this board got flooded with idiotic Wii HD threads for several months.

SNES 1991
N64 1996
Gamecube 2001
Wii 2006

People should start expecting that a new console will be shown this year at one of the major events and then be released next year.

Nintendo has a very solid timeframe when it comes to console releases

SNES 1991
N64 1996
Gamecube 2001
Wii 2006

People should start expecting that a new console will be shown this year at one of the major events and then be released next year.

Nintendo has a very solid timeframe when it comes to console releases

Jaysonguy

It makes me sad to think that Jaysonguy could be right. I mean, they could break from the pattern, and I hope they do. But who knows? I'm currently rather attached to my Wii, though.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

SNES 1991
N64 1996
Gamecube 2001
Wii 2006

People should start expecting that a new console will be shown this year at one of the major events and then be released next year.

Nintendo has a very solid timeframe when it comes to console releases

nintendoboy16

It most certainly could but so far I'm not seeing it

When I got my Wii in 2006 I planned on going back to the store in 2011 and grabbing the newest hardware.

I do think that when the release more hardware it'll be the new console, it wont be a slightly updated Wii to hold people over until the new console is released, that would be silly

It makes me sad to think that Jaysonguy could be right. I mean, they could break from the pattern, and I hope they do. But who knows? I'm currently rather attached to my Wii, though.

Pichoro

Yes but why wouldn't you be attached to the Wii in the future?

Let's say that I'm right and they do release a new console holiday of 2011, that's 2 more years you have the Wii plus however long you've had it up to this point.

I could see it happening. My only hope is that they allow transfer of Wii WiiWare/VC account. For some reason I don't think they will include that,and it will be officially the first time I will get mad at Nintendo after 23 years of playing Nintendo games.

Nintendo's not going to release an intergeneration console. The next system Nintendo releases will be the true followup to the wii.

Releasing an upgraded version of the current system is a bad idea. It would be expensive, need a lot of support, and a lot of people would just pass on it since we're only a couple years away from their true next gen console anyway. In short, it's not happening.

I could see it happening. My only hope is that they allow transfer of Wii WiiWare/VC account. For some reason I don't think they will include that,and it will be officially the first time I will get mad at Nintendo after 23 years of playing Nintendo games.

DaBrainz

I can't see how they can get away by not doing it

That's upsetting 65 million owners (which will be in the 70's by holiday 2011)

That's a LOT of bad PR

[QUOTE="Pichoro"]

It makes me sad to think that Jaysonguy could be right. I mean, they could break from the pattern, and I hope they do. But who knows? I'm currently rather attached to my Wii, though.

Jaysonguy

Yes but why wouldn't you be attached to the Wii in the future?

Let's say that I'm right and they do release a new console holiday of 2011, that's 2 more years you have the Wii plus however long you've had it up to this point.

Nintendo WILL make a HD Console. Since they might show off a new Handheld chances are they might show off a new console as well. At E3 or at the Game Developers Converence or whatever that will be.

Holiday 2011 or Spring of 2012 sounds about right.

By then we will probably see the Playstation 3D which will have hardware Higher than a PS3 but will still use most of the stuff the PS3 has, Xbox Motion or a Natal built in the Xbox.

I'm just speculating but I'm sure this Summer will be full of announcements.

SNES 1991
N64 1996
Gamecube 2001
Wii 2006

People should start expecting that a new console will be shown this year at one of the major events and then be released next year.

Nintendo has a very solid timeframe when it comes to console releases

Jaysonguy

I see it being shown maybe in the fall? at that show that they didn;t do in 09. They can't break there 5 year cycle this time around because the tech is getting old very fast

I really hope we see the next console at E3 this year. the wii was a great console, but leaving a lot to want for some. for me i really want a better online experience that goes deeper than simply challanging random ppl or playing a game with friends. make online more in-depth and i will love them. and i know HD graphics will probably be a given.

no it WILL be a given. i know it. then just put in some nice new features and bells and whistles and that's it for me

I'm actually glad to see the focus on local multiplayer with the Wii this gen. I'd much rather play with the people I'm in the room with, rather than someone far away.

PLEASE. PLZ...PL0X! Keep the gamecube ports on the top...keep them there...I need them *crying*....I won't leave you gamecube ports!!! I won't leave you! *crying*

PLEASE. PLZ...PL0X! Keep the gamecube ports on the top...keep them there...I need them *crying*....I won't leave you gamecube ports!!! I won't leave you! *crying*

silverfire675

EDIT: ooh, you're talking about the controller ports... not game ports... gotcha.

I'm talking bout the 100% back compatability :) I want tht to still be there

I'm talking bout the 100% back compatability :) I want tht to still be there

silverfire675

SNES 1991
N64 1996
Gamecube 2001
Wii 2006

People should start expecting that a new console will be shown this year at one of the major events and then be released next year.

Nintendo has a very solid timeframe when it comes to console releases

Jaysonguy

Again, for like the 6th time, you're not taking the current economic pressures on the industry into account. I don't get why that's so difficult to understand. The past track record of Nintendo's releases is virtually meaningless. Videogames were a rapidly growing industry then. It hooked the nation, and games like Mario, Zelda, and Final Fantasy became household names. This continued through the 90's, to the mid 2000's, then BAM. Recession.

Another thing you're conveniently forgetting is that yes,those systems were released in the order you said, but information about them was available a lot sooner. We knew about the Wii, or the "Revolution", shortly after the GCN came out. We knew about the GCN, or the "Nintendo Dolphin", shortly after the N64 came out. And you really think Nintendo don't say one word until one year prior to the next system's release? Wow, the naivety.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

SNES 1991
N64 1996
Gamecube 2001
Wii 2006

People should start expecting that a new console will be shown this year at one of the major events and then be released next year.

Nintendo has a very solid timeframe when it comes to console releases

Khadaj32

Again, for like the 6th time, you're not taking the current economic pressures on the industry into account. I don't get why that's so difficult to understand. The past track record of Nintendo's releases is virtually meaningless. Videogames were a rapidly growing industry then. It hooked the nation, and games like Mario, Zelda, and Final Fantasy became household names. This continued through the 90's, to the mid 2000's, then BAM. Recession.

Another thing you're conveniently forgetting is that yes,those systems were released in the order you said, but information about them was available a lot sooner. We knew about the Wii, or the "Revolution", shortly after the GCN came out. We knew about the GCN, or the "Nintendo Dolphin", shortly after the N64 came out. And you really think Nintendo don't say one word until one year prior to the next system's release? Wow, the naivety.

[QUOTE="Khadaj32"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

SNES 1991
N64 1996
Gamecube 2001
Wii 2006

People should start expecting that a new console will be shown this year at one of the major events and then be released next year.

Nintendo has a very solid timeframe when it comes to console releases

garrett_duffman

Again, for like the 6th time, you're not taking the current economic pressures on the industry into account. I don't get why that's so difficult to understand. The past track record of Nintendo's releases is virtually meaningless. Videogames were a rapidly growing industry then. It hooked the nation, and games like Mario, Zelda, and Final Fantasy became household names. This continued through the 90's, to the mid 2000's, then BAM. Recession.

Another thing you're conveniently forgetting is that yes,those systems were released in the order you said, but information about them was available a lot sooner. We knew about the Wii, or the "Revolution", shortly after the GCN came out. We knew about the GCN, or the "Nintendo Dolphin", shortly after the N64 came out. And you really think Nintendo don't say one word until one year prior to the next system's release? Wow, the naivety.

That's one small part of the arguement though. And even then, it still isn't Nintendo's way. Like Jaysonguy keeps saying, Nintendo may be strict with their release time frames, but they're also just as strict about keep their fans informed. Like I said, we knew a few years in advance about the Dolphin and Revolution, and we all followed any scrap of news fervently. With all of the interviews, gaming mags, gaming sites, and the Wii's own Nintendo Channel, you'd think we would have heard one scrap of info?

The Wii HD possibility has been denied by Nintendo. They aren't interested in that right now. They're still hitting their demographic with the Wii, and they're still raking in the money. They've got Galaxy 2 coming this year, and the next Zelda Wii doesn't even have a solid release quarter yet, much less a solid release possibility this year. Regardless of the "hardcore" gamers who don't like the Wii, it's sitting pretty with nothing but success, and there's no reason to push it aside as long as it remains successful.

And again, there's the economy crisis. You really think a brand new system would be the wisest move at the moment? Unless they can create a powerful next gen console that can compete/outdo the other two at a very, very low price, releasing a console with a ~$500 price tag would doom them to a lot of lost profits. Doesn't make sense? Just ask Sony, they'll tell ya.

See here, I just hope that this whole Motion Control craze dies by the time the Gamecube 3 comes out. The TRICUBE! It will rule everything with 3 powerful cpu cores and 3 gpu cores!

Ok but seriously I hope they make somethign called the Tricube without motion controls...

we knew a few years in advance about the Dolphin and Revolution, and we all followed any scrap of news fervently.

Khadaj32

Not true

Nintendo revealed only the console itself in 2005, one year before the Wii launched

It wasn't until fall of 2005 that they showed the controller scheme as a test, if they didn't need to test the motions with the open public Nintendo would have waited until E3 2006 to fully show the Wii.

The Wii HD possibility has been denied by Nintendo.

Khadaj32

Exactly the opposite

When the Wii launched in 2006 the majority of TV sets were still SD, last year the majority switched to HD sets and Nintendo has already said that their next console they release will be HD, they've made no bones about it

And again, there's the economy crisis.

Khadaj32

No there's not, the economy has been recovering for months now and by the time 2011 rolls around it'll be business as usual

Also financial problems don't bother Nintendo. There was also a recession to start the 90's and that didn't stop Nintendo from releasing the SNES on schedule in 1991

Lastly HD technology had dropped dramatically since the Wii launched. Nintendo could easily release a console 2011 that did 1080p plus backward support and not exceed it's 250 price tag that the Wii launched with and still allow Nintendo to make a profit on every console sold

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="Khadaj32"]

Again, for like the 6th time, you're not taking the current economic pressures on the industry into account. I don't get why that's so difficult to understand. The past track record of Nintendo's releases is virtually meaningless. Videogames were a rapidly growing industry then. It hooked the nation, and games like Mario, Zelda, and Final Fantasy became household names. This continued through the 90's, to the mid 2000's, then BAM. Recession.

Another thing you're conveniently forgetting is that yes,those systems were released in the order you said, but information about them was available a lot sooner. We knew about the Wii, or the "Revolution", shortly after the GCN came out. We knew about the GCN, or the "Nintendo Dolphin", shortly after the N64 came out. And you really think Nintendo don't say one word until one year prior to the next system's release? Wow, the naivety.

Khadaj32

That's one small part of the arguement though. And even then, it still isn't Nintendo's way. Like Jaysonguy keeps saying, Nintendo may be strict with their release time frames, but they're also just as strict about keep their fans informed. Like I said, we knew a few years in advance about the Dolphin and Revolution, and we all followed any scrap of news fervently. With all of the interviews, gaming mags, gaming sites, and the Wii's own Nintendo Channel, you'd think we would have heard one scrap of info?

The Wii HD possibility has been denied by Nintendo. They aren't interested in that right now. They're still hitting their demographic with the Wii, and they're still raking in the money. They've got Galaxy 2 coming this year, and the next Zelda Wii doesn't even have a solid release quarter yet, much less a solid release possibility this year. Regardless of the "hardcore" gamers who don't like the Wii, it's sitting pretty with nothing but success, and there's no reason to push it aside as long as it remains successful.

And again, there's the economy crisis. You really think a brand new system would be the wisest move at the moment? Unless they can create a powerful next gen console that can compete/outdo the other two at a very, very low price, releasing a console with a ~$500 price tag would doom them to a lot of lost profits. Doesn't make sense? Just ask Sony, they'll tell ya.

heh, I didn't expect everyone to argue wit the timeframe thing Jaysonguy wrote...o well though

Lets hope though it is not mandatory to buy the new console..maybe a new attachment, or take it to the shop to upgrade it? Either way, don't wanna spend a lot of money on the new console, I'll just stick to the Wii I got...but sincei frgot about my Wii thx to my 360, I don't hink a later release of HD is rly a problem for me..o well

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

SNES 1991
N64 1996
Gamecube 2001
Wii 2006

People should start expecting that a new console will be shown this year at one of the major events and then be released next year.

Nintendo has a very solid timeframe when it comes to console releases

nintendoboy16

I actually think JaysonGuy is right,... woah who said that?

Seriously, esspecially with MS treating Natal like a new console launch, PS bringing 3D and the Wand, and everything big name devs are saying about the Wii (Ubisoft, EA) and the fact that some retailers are refusing to stock the most profitable type of game to actually make on wii (mini games) Nintendo may want a new console in 2011, Iwata says they make consoles when devs can get no more out of current hardware and right now, devs are complaining they can't get the cinematic experience out of wii as the others, can't get the same sales when they heavily invest in wii development, and they can't get the easiest type of wii game on retailer shelves now (minigames again)

a Wii HD/2 in 2011 with near or slightly better 360 hardware could launch for $200 maybe, they could get a lot of multiplat dev support, esspecially from all the casual gaming that will be going on with the HD Motion controllers

I just don't think that Nintendo is being pushed enough by the competition to release a new console. In fact, this gen, Nintendo doesn't really have any competition. They are the only company going after the market that they have been for the last 4 years. And this is a market that you can't really be sure will just go and buy the newest iteration of a game console just because it exists. Plus, the Wii is still just doing too well for them to want to end it now.Arc2012

a lot of devs are whining about wii sales, shifting focus to other platforms, and a lot more devs (like Valve, IW) flat out ignore the Wii altogether

they have competition

its easier to make the same game for 2 platforms of 73 million users than to make a wii version with the hd version

HD Twins: 73 million customers, 2 easy to make versions of game

Wii: 65 million customers, needs ground up versions of games, hard to port to

I just don't think that Nintendo is being pushed enough by the competition to release a new console. In fact, this gen, Nintendo doesn't really have any competition. They are the only company going after the market that they have been for the last 4 years. And this is a market that you can't really be sure will just go and buy the newest iteration of a game console just because it exists. Plus, the Wii is still just doing too well for them to want to end it now.Arc2012

Like alot of other posts before me Nintendo has always had a solid 5 year life span for all there consoles. Another thing that lends to a 2011 release is that they are trying to get all there big name titles out in 2010, Zelda, Mario, Metroid all three are being slated for 2010. Even if one of them isnt gonna be out by then what is stopping them from bringing it to the next console just like Twilight Princess did. I dont however see them making it just an upgraded Wii. I think they will continue on the path of "better gameplay over graphics" but i dont see the graphics falling as short as they did on the Wii. To be honest my best assumption as to what Nintendo might be packing with there new console is....3D tech. They have it in movies they are supporting it on the PS3 now why not? They are always talking about bringing ppl into there games more immersion why not 3D? Still motion controls. I just see it being one of Nintendos best consoles but again this is all my personal opinion and is in no way shape or form, fact.

i dont think thats gonna happen ,

wii sold alot, and still is-december sales-3 million morethis brings wii t0 a 65 millon unit sold stat if we include previousmonths afte it had past 60 , ,(oct nov)

and with games like

red steel 2

nmh 2 -it bein advertised on the nintedo channel lol

metroid other m ,

mario galaxy 2 and zelda theres no way a hd wii is coming not evenin 2012 lol ,-if it aint announced by 2011 it be 2013 at leas til wii hd/2 we is out but hey if i am wrong at least wii leaves with a bang and the lead lol ,

and nintedo would again position them selfs for a lead in the next war because the others wont be ready lol , for a few more yrs ,

and wii hd will most likeyl play wii games nd gc etc, so im not qworried if it doe come out,

but ill be replacing my current wii soon my ejec button is gettin stuck and i do not know what to do ,

[QUOTE="Arc2012"]I just don't think that Nintendo is being pushed enough by the competition to release a new console. In fact, this gen, Nintendo doesn't really have any competition. They are the only company going after the market that they have been for the last 4 years. And this is a market that you can't really be sure will just go and buy the newest iteration of a game console just because it exists. Plus, the Wii is still just doing too well for them to want to end it now.darth-pyschosis

a lot of devs are whining about wii sales, shifting focus to other platforms, and a lot more devs (like Valve, IW) flat out ignore the Wii altogether

they have competition

its easier to make the same game for 2 platforms of 73 million users than to make a wii version with the hd version

HD Twins: 73 million customers, 2 easy to make versions of game

Wii: 65 million customers, needs ground up versions of games, hard to port to

You know Nintendo cries themselves to sleep at night because their system is ignored by Valve and IW.:roll:

I don't know. I get what you're saying, but I just don't know if its enough to warrant a brand new console. Guess we'll be seeing by E3.

A new wii with HD will kick #%¤. Hopefully E3 enlightens us.

SNES 1991
N64 1996
Gamecube 2001
Wii 2006

People should start expecting that a new console will be shown this year at one of the major events and then be released next year.

Nintendo has a very solid timeframe when it comes to console releases

Jaysonguy

I don't believe in this pattern.
The difference between now and then: The Wii is a success. The 64 and the GC were not (compared to the competition).

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

SNES 1991
N64 1996
Gamecube 2001
Wii 2006

People should start expecting that a new console will be shown this year at one of the major events and then be released next year.

Nintendo has a very solid timeframe when it comes to console releases

Conjuration

I don't believe in this pattern.
The difference between now and then: The Wii is a success. The 64 and the GC were not (compared to the competition).

@garrett:

lol ok you're right :roll:

I should have said: I don't believe the pattern will continue."

A new wii with HD will kick #%¤. Hopefully E3 enlightens us.

SoAmazingBaby

No need to wait until E3- cause Nintendo's (probably) not going to show any new console at all.

Observe:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6246405.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2

[QUOTE="SoAmazingBaby"]

A new wii with HD will kick #%¤. Hopefully E3 enlightens us.

More_Dakka

No need to wait until E3- cause Nintendo's (probably) not going to show any new console at all.

Observe:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6246405.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2

Just like he said no new version of the DS and then not even a month later a new version pops up?

Also we're two years away from the new console (2011)

[QUOTE="More_Dakka"]

[QUOTE="SoAmazingBaby"]

A new wii with HD will kick #%¤. Hopefully E3 enlightens us.

Jaysonguy

No need to wait until E3- cause Nintendo's (probably) not going to show any new console at all.

Observe:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6246405.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2

Just like he said no new version of the DS and then not even a month later a new version pops up?

Also we're two years away from the new console (2011)

TWO YEARS?? lol its 2010...only one year.. or not 0.o

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="More_Dakka"]

No need to wait until E3- cause Nintendo's (probably) not going to show any new console at all.

Observe:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6246405.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2

shawnyboy95

Just like he said no new version of the DS and then not even a month later a new version pops up?

Also we're two years away from the new console (2011)

TWO YEARS?? lol its 2010...only one year.. or not 0.o

well, the console would come out late 2011 such as how the wii came out in november which is nearly the equivalent of 2 years.

You kow what will happen companies and their legions of mindless droneswill whine "It's a 360 with a wiimote"

hmmm, will Wii HD rly be a big hit though? I don't think people want to spend some extra $200 or somthing for just an HD version of what they got. Still hoping for the attachment or an upgrade, that would be much better than getting a new console. Still, never know if it'll really come out in 2011, I'm starting to doubt it.

I think the Wii HD would be a nice addition to people's console collections, but, quite frankly, I really don't think it is coming anytime soon. What They Play is not the most reliable source on gaming news.