Wii HD third party device.

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#1 miracle1980
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Hey all, I read this article today and thought I'd share. This third party device is supposed to upscale the Wii's graphics to 1080P. http://blogs.popzara.com/index.php/item/1402
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#2 Zanoh
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This was also mentioned in SW. I have yet to see any reviews on the device.

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#3 kenakuma
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From what I heard its BS, apparently if your TV is 1080p then it already automatically up-scales it the best it can without needing a device.

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#4 AlmightyDerek
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From what I heard its BS, apparently if your TV is 1080p then it already automatically up-scales it the best it can without needing a device.

kenakuma
All TV's try to upscale a lower def signal to it's native resolution, but most TV's suck at it. A dedicated upscaler should work way better than a TV's built in upscaler in pretty much any case. I really don't know if this device works that well, but it probably is better than nothing. I'm not sure it's worth $75 plus shipping though.
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#5 brandontwb
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If it works well I would consider picking it up. My monitor (1680X1050) makes 480p look pretty bad compared to my SDTV. I'll keep my eye on this.
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#6 SteveTabernacle
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From what I heard its BS, apparently if your TV is 1080p then it already automatically up-scales it the best it can without needing a device.

kenakuma
Mine is 1080p. and it doesn't do any such thing. I'll keep an eye on this, it may help me with my widescreen quality issues.
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#7 Assassin1349
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Upscaling is crap.

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#8 Pixel-Perfect
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Eh, I guess I'll keep my eye on it, doubtful though.

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#9 Lothenon
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[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

From what I heard its BS, apparently if your TV is 1080p then it already automatically up-scales it the best it can without needing a device.

SteveTabernacle
Mine is 1080p. and it doesn't do any such thing. I'll keep an eye on this, it may help me with my widescreen quality issues.

If you play your Wii on your 1080p TV, is it fullscreen? If so, then your TV "does such a thing".
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#10 atc-fanatic
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any1 that buys this is stupid!!! if u already own a 1080p tv the tv is arleady upconverting. this product was only made to 2take advantage of people with no tv tech savy. which by the looks of it 90% of the hdtv owners which is sad.

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#11 teknic1200
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my set does a great job at upscaling the image. the set you have will make all the difference in the world. my wii looks much much better on my set then on any CRT.
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#12 SLAYERO0
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From what I heard its BS, apparently if your TV is 1080p then it already automatically up-scales it the best it can without needing a device.

kenakuma

The wii has a max of 480p quality. Even if your monitor is full HD1080p it won't go above 480

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#13 sonic0491
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Ive read about it. It does convert it but not very well. Compare that to the WII HD emulator thing on youtube and you will notice.

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#14 SteveTabernacle
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If you play your Wii on your 1080p TV, is it fullscreen? If so, then your TV "does such a thing".Lothenon
Then it must be doing a poor job. The games all look worse in wide screen than they do in 4:3 ratio. (it doesn't retain full visual fidelity in widescreen, it looks stretched and blurry) My Wii is the only system to have such an issue with this TV.
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#15 kenakuma
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[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

From what I heard its BS, apparently if your TV is 1080p then it already automatically up-scales it the best it can without needing a device.

SLAYERO0

The wii has a max of 480p quality. Even if your monitor is full HD1080p it won't go above 480

lol, thanks alot captian obvious :P

Thats not what where talking about, were talking about up-scaling.

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#16 AlmightyDerek
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any1 that buys this is stupid!!! if u already own a 1080p tv the tv is arleady upconverting. this product was only made to 2take advantage of people with no tv tech savy. which by the looks of it 90% of the hdtv owners which is sad.

atc-fanatic
Most TV's suck at upconverting. If you hook up a standard dvd player and an upconverting dvd player(or blu-ray player) the upconverting one will look better because it upconverts the signal before sending it to the TV. They make these kind of stand alone upscalers for lots of other devices too, I'm sure it does make the signal look better, although how much better is the question. Obviously though it could never be as good as if the Wii itself outputted 1080p itself.
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#17 aransom
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You can't squeeze blood from a rock. You can't squeeze 1080p from 480p either.

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#18 ThePlothole
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Mine is 1080p. and it doesn't do any such thing. I'll keep an eye on this, it may help me with my widescreen quality issues.SteveTabernacle

LCDs, DLP, and Plasma TVs only have one resolution. Everything else must be scaled to that. Only CRTs can display multiple resolutions natively.

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#19 SteveTabernacle
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[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"]Mine is 1080p. and it doesn't do any such thing. I'll keep an eye on this, it may help me with my widescreen quality issues.ThePlothole

LCDs, DLP, and Plasma TVs only have one resolution. Everything else must be scaled to that. Only CRTs can display multiple resolutions natively.

Well mine is handling 480i and 480p very poorly then, at least in wide aspect mode. Ah well. I would always be switching to 4:3 for GC games and VC titles anyway.
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#20 UbiquitousAeon
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A 480p signal will always be a 480p signal. In order for the games to be in actual "high" definition, Nintendo and other developers will have to start putting out titles in 720p. Up-scaling will never give you a true HD signal, not even close.
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#21 ThePlothole
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A 480p signal will always be a 480p signal. In order for the games to be in actual "high" definition, Nintendo and other developers will have to start putting out titles in 720p. Up-scaling will never give you a true HD signal, not even close. UbiquitousAeon

My understanding is that the Wii's graphics chip itself is not designed to output at higher resolutions.

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#22 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]A 480p signal will always be a 480p signal. In order for the games to be in actual "high" definition, Nintendo and other developers will have to start putting out titles in 720p. Up-scaling will never give you a true HD signal, not even close. ThePlothole

My understanding is that the Wii's graphics chip itself is not designed to output at higher resolutions.

Technically, It is very capable of putting out higher resolutions. However, Nintendo decided against it for some reason. Come to think of it, the original Xbox had some titles that ran at 720p. So without a doubt the Wii could pull it off considering that it has more powerful hardware.
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#23 ThePlothole
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Technically, It is very capable of putting out higher resolutions. However, Nintendo decided against it for some reason. Come to think of it, the original Xbox had some titles that ran at 720p. So without a doubt the Wii could pull it off considering that it has more powerful hardware. UbiquitousAeon

Yeah but all the raw "power" in the world doesn't help if it's not something the chip was designed to do. The Xbox was designed with multiple output resolutions in mind (in fact it was built more like a PC).

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#24 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]Technically, It is very capable of putting out higher resolutions. However, Nintendo decided against it for some reason. Come to think of it, the original Xbox had some titles that ran at 720p. So without a doubt the Wii could pull it off considering that it has more powerful hardware. ThePlothole

Yeah but all the raw "power" in the world doesn't help if it's not something the chip was designed to do. The Xbox was designed with multiple output resolutions in mind (in fact it was built more like a PC).

I think it would be possible to enable it via firmware update.
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#25 starwarsjunky
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according to Kotaku its pretty much useless