Wii motion plus: revoulutionary or bogus?

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#1 frostybro24
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does anyone notice a difference withe the new WMP? can anyone enlighten us further on the subject? it seems the same as without the attatchment to me

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#2 TaMuK711
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does anyone notice a difference withe the new WMP? can anyone enlighten us further on the subject? it seems the same as without the attatchment to me

frostybro24

Ignorance is bliss I guess, accurate 1:1 motion isn't possible without M+, yes, it makes a huge difference.

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i havent tried a game yet that supports just a standard wiimote and WM+ also so i cant really say how much of a difference it makes. do note though TC that WM+ only works with WM+ games. so it wont make a jot of difference in MP3 or mario galaxy for example. you can keep it attached to the wiimote when playing those games but it wont do anything. sword fighting in WSR won me over on WM+ though. i dont think the wiimote would have been up to the job of doing that on its own. compared to, say, red steel, sword fighting in WSR is just in a completly different league. granted there are some games in WSR where i really dont see why WM+ was needed (like flying the plane and cyceling) but overall it makes a big difference imho. fingers crossed for RS2.
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#4 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="frostybro24"]

does anyone notice a difference withe the new WMP? can anyone enlighten us further on the subject? it seems the same as without the attatchment to me

TaMuK711

Ignorance is bliss I guess, accurate 1:1 motion isn't possible without M+, yes, it makes a huge difference.

that. when i played wii sports resort for the first time (ignore the reviewers, even what they complained about *cough*cycling*cough* is fun. you gotta play for yourself and see what you like and what you dont) i was surprised by the accuracy seen in swordplay and archery.
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[QUOTE="osan0"] granted there are some games in WSR where i really dont see why WM+ was needed (like flying the plane and cyceling) but overall it makes a big difference imho.

cycling needs it to measure the intensity of the "pedaling", but yea, it's not the best example. the airplane, though, is one of the best example of 1:1 motion. every slight tilt is recognized by the game.
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#6 awssk8er716
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It makes gameplay even more amazing...

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Neither. But damn cool.
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#8 jorler333
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To answer your question, revolutionary.

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#9 Bl4cKHawk
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you can definitely tell that there is more motion it

makes the game way better

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#10 GabuEx
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WM+ is provably 1:1 accurate. What developers do with it, however,is their business - but early reports are very positive, with pretty much every reviewer calling Tiger Woods 10 the definitive golf experience.

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#11 Thul
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It works amazingly well, this is the beginning of the next-generation motion controls, I really hope more games begin to use it.
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#12 ZumaJones07
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I don't have it yet; waiting for a non demo game that interests me.
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#13 tom95b
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Just compare the sword fighting in Zelda: Twilight Princess and the swordplay in Wii Sports Resort. I know they're different games, but Zelda was just shaking the Wii Remote and Swordplay is really following your movements.

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It´s everything it´s supposed to be.

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#15 jukitup
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does anyone notice a difference withe the new WMP? can anyone enlighten us further on the subject? it seems the same as without the attatchment to me

frostybro24
what game are you playing that you don't notice it? all the M+ games currently available show off how much better motion sensing is with M+ (with the exception of a few of the games in WSR). Revolutionary!
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Revolutionary. It's a huge upgrade over the original Wii remote.
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#17 MathMattS
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I'm enjoying the Wii MotionPlus immensely. I'm excited about the possibilities that have opened up for future game control (especially with examples such as Swordplay in WSR and the really good control with WM+ in Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10).

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#18 TalesofRaGnArOk
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I played Grand Slam Tennis with WM+

It was not 1:1. I kept switching between WM+ and the regular Wiimote, and I could hardly tell the difference.

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#19 ramjam23
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I will add a new one, bull because nobody should have to pay 35 bucks for something that should have been there in the first place.

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#20 Vari3ty
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Why don't they just build new remotes with the WM+ built in?

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I played Grand Slam Tennis with WM+

It was not 1:1. I kept switching between WM+ and the regular Wiimote, and I could hardly tell the difference.

TalesofRaGnArOk
play wii sports resort. rent it, if you're one of those "i dont wanna pick it because it looks like a demo" people (your loss). most stuff you see there is impossible to do with a regular wiimote.
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#22 jukitup
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I played Grand Slam Tennis with WM+

It was not 1:1. I kept switching between WM+ and the regular Wiimote, and I could hardly tell the difference.

TalesofRaGnArOk
well just because a game doesn't interpret the M+ as 1:1 doesn't mean it can't read it 1:1. Play TW10 or WSR and you'll see the 1:1 that is possible. Personally I don't like GST with M+ anyways,, Virtua Tennis works well though.

I will add a new one, bull because nobody should have to pay 35 bucks for something that should have been there in the first place.

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who sold you a M+ for 35 bucks?! they cost 20... anyways I think we've all gotten over this and moved on to enjoy the greatness of M+.. you should too!
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#23 jorler333
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[QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"]

I played Grand Slam Tennis with WM+

It was not 1:1. I kept switching between WM+ and the regular Wiimote, and I could hardly tell the difference.

BrunoBRS

play wii sports resort. rent it, if you're one of those "i dont wanna pick it because it looks like a demo" people (your loss). most stuff you see there is impossible to do with a regular wiimote.

That is exactly what I was thinking. TalesofRaGnArOk, you can't judge WM+ by one game-- play Tiger Woods 10 or WSR, like Bruno said, the 1:1 ratio then comes in.

Don't let Grand Slam Tennis ruin it for you

EDIT: jukitup, I wrote this post before reading yours :D It sounded just like yours :P

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[QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"]

I played Grand Slam Tennis with WM+

It was not 1:1. I kept switching between WM+ and the regular Wiimote, and I could hardly tell the difference.

jukitup

well just because a game doesn't interpret the M+ as 1:1 doesn't mean it can't read it 1:1. Play TW10 or WSR and you'll see the 1:1 that is possible. Personally I don't like GST with M+ anyways,, Virtua Tennis works well though.

I will add a new one, bull because nobody should have to pay 35 bucks for something that should have been there in the first place.

ramjam23

who sold you a M+ for 35 bucks?! they cost 20... anyways I think we've all gotten over this and moved on to enjoy the greatness of M+.. you should too!

I would have to get over the hate for my Wii first, but think about it, if you get a game that is only m+ and you want to play multiplayer with three other people, that is 80 bucks you have to pay for something that should be free.

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[QUOTE="jukitup"][QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"] well just because a game doesn't interpret the M+ as 1:1 doesn't mean it can't read it 1:1. Play TW10 or WSR and you'll see the 1:1 that is possible. Personally I don't like GST with M+ anyways,, Virtua Tennis works well though. [QUOTE="ramjam23"]

I will add a new one, bull because nobody should have to pay 35 bucks for something that should have been there in the first place.

ramjam23

who sold you a M+ for 35 bucks?! they cost 20... anyways I think we've all gotten over this and moved on to enjoy the greatness of M+.. you should too!

I would have to get over the hate for my Wii first, but think about it, if you get a game that is only m+ and you want to play multiplayer with three other people, that is 80 bucks you have to pay for something that should be free.

What, but you don't do that on other systems?

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[QUOTE="ramjam23"]

[QUOTE="jukitup"] who sold you a M+ for 35 bucks?! they cost 20... anyways I think we've all gotten over this and moved on to enjoy the greatness of M+.. you should too!jorler333

I would have to get over the hate for my Wii first, but think about it, if you get a game that is only m+ and you want to play multiplayer with three other people, that is 80 bucks you have to pay for something that should be free.

What, but you don't do that on other systems?

No there are no addons for the 360 or ps3 controllers that are required for certain games.

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#27 jorler333
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Regardless of add ons, the controllers for the 360 and PS3 are a lot to buy. But thats completely off topic. I think the Wii's Motion plus is great and for $20 dollars a bargain.

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All i have to say is that when playing swordplay, i can make strategic swings and hit my friends on the opposite side of where they were blocking.

Frickin sweet.

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#29 ramjam23
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Regardless of add ons, the controllers for the 360 and PS3 are a lot to buy. But thats completely off topic. I think the Wii's Motion plus is great and for $20 dollars a bargain.

jorler333

The Wiimote is 40 and the nunchuck is 20, so the controllers are the same price. 4 360 controllers=240, but 4Wii controllers(complete) pluse 4 m+=320.

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#30 jorler333
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All i have to say is that when playing swordplay, i can make strategic swings and hit my friends on the opposite side of where they were blocking.

Frickin sweet.

fool_man_dude

That's exactly how I feel. Everyone I play with just goes crazy, but I sit back and block it, waiting to strike. It's funny when I only take like 4 hits and send them flying off the ring. Best feeling ever :D

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I have Wii Sports Resort and the only two sports I can complain about control wise is Cycling and Golf.

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#32 jorler333
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I have Wii Sports Resort and the only two sports I can complain about control wise is Cycling and Golf.

sman3579

Am I alone? I highly enjoy cycling. Altough, I don't really like golf on WSR.

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#33 sman3579
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[QUOTE="sman3579"]

I have Wii Sports Resort and the only two sports I can complain about control wise is Cycling and Golf.

jorler333

Am I alone? I highly enjoy cycling. Altough, I don't really like golf on WSR.

I dont see how anyone can like cycling.

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#34 jorler333
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[QUOTE="jorler333"]

[QUOTE="sman3579"]

I have Wii Sports Resort and the only two sports I can complain about control wise is Cycling and Golf.

sman3579

Am I alone? I highly enjoy cycling. Altough, I don't really like golf on WSR.

I dont see how anyone can like cycling.

I guess I am alone :shock: Sure the controls are rough, very rough, but once you look past that, the racing is pretty fun. I've only played Cycling with two people, so maybe this is the reason.

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[QUOTE="jukitup"][QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"] well just because a game doesn't interpret the M+ as 1:1 doesn't mean it can't read it 1:1. Play TW10 or WSR and you'll see the 1:1 that is possible. Personally I don't like GST with M+ anyways,, Virtua Tennis works well though. [QUOTE="ramjam23"]

I will add a new one, bull because nobody should have to pay 35 bucks for something that should have been there in the first place.

ramjam23

who sold you a M+ for 35 bucks?! they cost 20... anyways I think we've all gotten over this and moved on to enjoy the greatness of M+.. you should too!

I would have to get over the hate for my Wii first, but think about it, if you get a game that is only m+ and you want to play multiplayer with three other people, that is 80 bucks you have to pay for something that should be free.

Play cheap and get only one and alternate (total of 2 Wii motion pluses). You can technically play all of the games multi-player.

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Revolutionary or bogus.. I'm gonna have to go with neither. It's great to have better motion controls, but I wouldn't call it revolutionary, since it's just an upgrade. Call me when there's virtual reality.

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#37 ganga_
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[QUOTE="jorler333"]

[QUOTE="sman3579"]

I have Wii Sports Resort and the only two sports I can complain about control wise is Cycling and Golf.

sman3579

Am I alone? I highly enjoy cycling. Altough, I don't really like golf on WSR.

I dont see how anyone can like cycling.

maybe its because i like cycling in general, but i really enjoy the cycling in WSR. i dont get the hate. imo its one of the most tactical games in the whole package. u have to get behind other cyclers to save energy and its important when exactly ur going to attack. there could be a really great cycling game with Tour de France, Milan San Remo, Fleche Wallone etc. and all the original teams. that would be great. about WM+ in general: i didnt notice any huge difference in GST but WSR shows it. especially in sword fighting, but i also think table tennis wouldnt work w/o WM+
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#38 jorler333
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Finnaly someone agree's with me :D I feel cycling takes a lot of strategy, thus making it fun. I can look past the awful controls :P

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#39 robtyketto
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Too early, awaiting more titles to see if it reaches revolutionary staus.

Improvement, hell yeah.

The BIG issue as far as Im aware for an advancement in motion controls is tracking BOTH arms and legs which isn't easily achieved on the wii, especially as the majority of games require the nunchuk for character movement.

I want to know if a publisher is brave enough to make a boxing game where TWO WM+ are required for each arm, therefore rendering the nunchuk uneccessary.

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#40 robtyketto
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I like wii sports resort cycling :)

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[QUOTE="sman3579"]

[QUOTE="jorler333"] Am I alone? I highly enjoy cycling. Altough, I don't really like golf on WSR.

jorler333

I dont see how anyone can like cycling.

I guess I am alone :shock: Sure the controls are rough, very rough, but once you look past that, the racing is pretty fun. I've only played Cycling with two people, so maybe this is the reason.

dont worry, i like it too. takes a while to learn how to make sharp turns and still manage to stay on the line (like with the jet ski), and the gameplay has absolutely nothing to do with actual cycling, but it's really fun.
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[QUOTE="jorler333"]

[QUOTE="ramjam23"]

I would have to get over the hate for my Wii first, but think about it, if you get a game that is only m+ and you want to play multiplayer with three other people, that is 80 bucks you have to pay for something that should be free.

ramjam23

What, but you don't do that on other systems?

No there are no addons for the 360 or ps3 controllers that are required for certain games.

lol, natal? eyetoy? ignorance really is bliss. microsoft and sony are always gonna be worse for trying to squeeze money out of things, sony rereleased they're controllers with vibration! (and they were flipping expensive! I have a ps3!) and back in the days of ps2 the eyetoy was not cheap, and neither will the new thing they are releasing. then there is microsofts natal... gonna be a fortune if it actually has that technology (but I suspect that most of the technology is software and not hardware like they're trying to say, since everything could be done with 2 well placed cameras and a heck of a good programmer) then the list of addon only games! lips / singstar buzz any game requiring xbox live lights camera action guitar heroes rock band getting older, then eyetoy the light gun games dance mats games that required the ps2 harddrive the steering wheel now I'm not saying that any of these games addons where bad, but when you argue that microsoft and sony don't make you buy new stuff to play games, well your wrong. Actually they are very happy to, and the more you buy the happier all the companies involved are. I have accepted this and am happy to buy a peripheral as long as it is well supported, and the motion plus is!