Wii MotionPlus Overrated?

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#1 skatimmy737
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Just got Wii Resort and tried out the MotionPlus feature. Besides a little better control on the sword fighting games, I didn't see that much difference in the sensitivity. Am I supposed to be impressed here?
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#2 Crisis_Eye
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There is a big different. It actually senses where the controller is in the 3D environment. The Wii Remote alone wasn't able to do this. You could tilt the original Wii Remote and it would detect that. You could waggle it and it would detect that, and you could of course point it at the sensor bar and it would detect that. The Wii Motion Plus allows for the Wii Remote to be detected anywhere. You can hold it upsidedown and it will know it is upside down. Every little detail is replicated. Look at Wii Plays table tennis before the WiiMotionPlus was out. You had to aim the pointer at the screen to play that. Now on Wii SPorts Resort you don't point it at anything, it's just all motioin. The most noticable difference is of course in the "Swordplay" games, but it's always there. The airplane games, the archery, and the frisbee one as well.
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#3 knuckl3head
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I know some games require M+ and I'm assuming yes but before I go out and buy any first, does M+ work on all of the wii games and more to the point will make mario power tennis also noticably better?

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#4 rgsniper1
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Very few games actually support it so far, Tiger Woods, NHL2k10 and Wii Sports Resort are all I know for sure. That said it does make a world of difference in those games. It's honestly a good device that is worth owning especially once the games catch up to and implement it.

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#5 LongZhiZi
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Well, I think it's pretty cool for what I"ve used it for so far (WSR). The sports that reappeared from the original feel MUCH better and the swordfighting works really well. I think it'll help with FPS since the Wii remote won't depend solely on IR lights.
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#6 Aero5555
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It's something that should've been on the Wii from day one.
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#7 LongZhiZi
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It's something that should've been on the Wii from day one.Aero5555
This I can agree with. I think we'd have much better games if it had been there since developers would know to program for it (unlike now where the userbase is split). Even if it increased the price of the system to $270 or $280, it would've been better off.
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#8 skatimmy737
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I heard there was supposed to be some Zelda type game for the M+ and also a rumor about a feature on No More Heroes 2. Any truth to these rumors?
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I heard there was supposed to be some Zelda type game for the M+ and also a rumor about a feature on No More Heroes 2. Any truth to these rumors?skatimmy737
Well it will be in Zelda for the Wii, but the No More Heroes 2 part isn't true.

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#10 awssk8er716
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It's definitely underrated. It's one of the best things that has happened to this generation, and many people don't know what it even does.

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[QUOTE="skatimmy737"]I heard there was supposed to be some Zelda type game for the M+ and also a rumor about a feature on No More Heroes 2. Any truth to these rumors?Nintendo_Ownes7

Well it will be in Zelda for the Wii, but the No More Heroes 2 part isn't true.

Zelda 2011 has been confirmed to use the Wii Motion Plus. I don't know if they said if it will be mandatory. I think No More Heroes 2 can use it, but you do not have to.

And Red Steel 2, I know it definitely supports the Wii Motion Plus, and I think you NEED it to play the game. It will probably be bundled with it.

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#11 locopatho
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In how it works, it isn't overrated, it's sensitivity and accuracy is very impressive. In it's overall impact, it is overrated, seeing as how barely any games use it.
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#12 Cruse34
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Its severally under used. But it should be getting used more in the next years

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#13 garrett_duffman
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Its severally under used. But it should be getting used more in the next years

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then again we said the same thing about the wii when it was first released...
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#14 haziqonfire
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No, its better. Its just not used in many games which is sad.
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#15 canadianloonie
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I agree. Other than the sword fighting, I find Wii Sports Resort/MotionPlus really underwhelming.

I was expecting a vast improvement with Table Tennis using the MotionPlus, but honestly I find the differences to the original Wii Tennis hardly noticeable. No matter how I angle or twist the wiimote, how I swing early or late, most of my returns will still end up in the middle of the table...just like Wii Tennis.

Plus, a lot of the mini games (Basketball, Canoeing, Cycling, etc) don't really need the MotionPlus for it to work.

So disappointed. I felt so jipped even though I got it as a Christmas gift.

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#16 dirktu
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I agree. Other than the sword fighting, I find Wii Sports Resort/MotionPlus really underwhelming.

I was expecting a vast improvement with Table Tennis using the MotionPlus, but honestly I find the differences to the original Wii Tennis hardly noticeable. No matter how I angle or twist the wiimote, how I swing early or late, most of my returns will still end up in the middle of the table...just like Wii Tennis.

Plus, a lot of the mini games (Basketball, Canoeing, Cycling, etc) don't really need the MotionPlus for it to work.

So disappointed. I felt so jipped even though I got it as a Christmas gift.

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There's either something wrong with your Motion Plus or you haven't grasped the controls yet. Table Tennis in WSR is one of the best showcases of the Motion Plus technology in the entire package. It works like a charm. I can give the ball all kinds of effects, both in a horizontal (right and left spin) and vertical sense (letting the ball travel a longer or shorter distance).

The only downside is that it still relies on the sensor bar to detect your 'neutral' position, but as long as you don't have a Christmas Tree standing next to your gaming stuff it shouldn't be that big of a problem.

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#17 uRan_Ehr
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I just use this thread to ask two questions I have: First off, are there games coming where you need Wii Motion Plus? And is there a silicone case included in the Wii MotionPlus package?
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#18 alexh_99
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I just use this thread to ask two questions I have: First off, are there games coming where you need Wii Motion Plus? And is there a silicone case included in the Wii MotionPlus package?uRan_Ehr
1.) yes. Red steel 2, New zelda, Most likely High voltage softwares "the grinder" and "gladiator AD", and most likely all of the sport games coming out next year. 2.) yes
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#19 XenoLair
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Motion Plus will glow next year. For this year, try the frisby feature in Tiger Woords 2010 - it shows how good the controlls realy are.

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It's something that should've been on the Wii from day one.Aero5555
This^^
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#21 Skychrome
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The only game I have that uses it is Wii Sports Resort. I think that IS the only game that uses it.
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#22 aleksandar2
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There is one problem on the MotionPlus that I think will kill it's popularity. Everyone who owns one will probably know that the MotionPlus is unstable, even the intro movie about how to use it says so. I think this is a really big let-down. Imagine if you were in the middle of the new Zelda game and your MotionPlus controls started malfunctioning, what then? Pause the game and stabilize the controlls? I guess... If I get to do it that often than I guess it's ok. But imagine if every 15 minutes or so you had to pause the game just to stabilize the controlls.

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#24 2Chalupas
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There are more games besides Wii Sports Report that feature the MotionPlus already:

Grand Slam Tennis

Virtua Tennis 2009

Tiger Woods 10

NHL 2K10

Apparantly Avatar the Game does as well - check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_MotionPlus for the rest.

Golf and Tennis are the most natural. I just picked up a Wii with the Sports Resort, New Super Mario, Mario Galaxy, and Metriod Prime collection. Grand Slam and Tiger are going to be "must purchases", assuming they work just as well as "Sports Resort" but with the depth of a single sport game (career mode, online play, etc). I really didn't care that Wii has lacked third party support, these games alone are more than worth it IMO. I have a PS3 but Wii was a great purchase this holiday for these family games. Motion+ was a big plus from what I can tell.

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#25 MangaPicture
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Let's wait for Red Steel 2 and Zelda Wii...

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#26 rgsniper1
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I agree. Other than the sword fighting, I find Wii Sports Resort/MotionPlus really underwhelming.

I was expecting a vast improvement with Table Tennis using the MotionPlus, but honestly I find the differences to the original Wii Tennis hardly noticeable. No matter how I angle or twist the wiimote, how I swing early or late, most of my returns will still end up in the middle of the table...just like Wii Tennis.

Plus, a lot of the mini games (Basketball, Canoeing, Cycling, etc) don't really need the MotionPlus for it to work.

So disappointed. I felt so jipped even though I got it as a Christmas gift.

canadianloonie

If you can't control where the ball goes in table tennis with the wii plus then honestly it's just plan that you aren't good at the game. From personal experiance I can honestly say I can pretty much place the ball anywhere on the table I want including a wicked just over the net looping corner shot with enough spin to put it going off the side of the table by at least 60 to 70 degree angle... I'm not sure how much more placement you'd want than that.

Bowling is another place it excels considering you can put enough spin on the ball that if you bowl right down the right gutter side you almost bowl a gutter on the left.

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#27 rgsniper1
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Sorry I should have also mentioned that in the basketball game it also is very needed. Consider that when you pull back and tilt away you toon will back up where as pointing forward and down will make them go forward. Without the wii motion plus you couldn't do that at all which means you'd have 0 control of your court placement.

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#28 Crisis_Eye
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I know some games require M+ and I'm assuming yes but before I go out and buy any first, does M+ work on all of the wii games and more to the point will make mario power tennis also noticably better?

knuckl3head
You can only use Wii Motion Plus with games made for it.
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#29 Crisis_Eye
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[QUOTE="canadianloonie"]

I agree. Other than the sword fighting, I find Wii Sports Resort/MotionPlus really underwhelming.

I was expecting a vast improvement with Table Tennis using the MotionPlus, but honestly I find the differences to the original Wii Tennis hardly noticeable. No matter how I angle or twist the wiimote, how I swing early or late, most of my returns will still end up in the middle of the table...just like Wii Tennis.

Plus, a lot of the mini games (Basketball, Canoeing, Cycling, etc) don't really need the MotionPlus for it to work.

So disappointed. I felt so jipped even though I got it as a Christmas gift.

rgsniper1

If you can't control where the ball goes in table tennis with the wii plus then honestly it's just plan that you aren't good at the game. From personal experiance I can honestly say I can pretty much place the ball anywhere on the table I want including a wicked just over the net looping corner shot with enough spin to put it going off the side of the table by at least 60 to 70 degree angle... I'm not sure how much more placement you'd want than that.

Bowling is another place it excels considering you can put enough spin on the ball that if you bowl right down the right gutter side you almost bowl a gutter on the left.

Dang! That's some serious skill you've got there man. Table Tennis works really well with the WIi Motion Plus. Controlling the ball is very very realistic.
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#30 Crisis_Eye
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There is one problem on the MotionPlus that I think will kill it's popularity. Everyone who owns one will probably know that the MotionPlus is unstable, even the intro movie about how to use it says so. I think this is a really big let-down. Imagine if you were in the middle of the new Zelda game and your MotionPlus controls started malfunctioning, what then? Pause the game and stabilize the controlls? I guess... If I get to do it that often than I guess it's ok. But imagine if every 15 minutes or so you had to pause the game just to stabilize the controlls.

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I haven't had to re-sync my Wii Motion Plus since I've opened it. It works perfect for me.
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#31 skatimmy737
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I've had to sync mine a few times, especially during heated sword fighting. Anyone know exactly what sets it off anyways?
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#32 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="aleksandar2"]

There is one problem on the MotionPlus that I think will kill it's popularity. Everyone who owns one will probably know that the MotionPlus is unstable, even the intro movie about how to use it says so. I think this is a really big let-down. Imagine if you were in the middle of the new Zelda game and your MotionPlus controls started malfunctioning, what then? Pause the game and stabilize the controlls? I guess... If I get to do it that often than I guess it's ok. But imagine if every 15 minutes or so you had to pause the game just to stabilize the controlls.

Crisis_Eye

I haven't had to re-sync my Wii Motion Plus since I've opened it. It works perfect for me.

Same here the only time I have to re-sync it is when I start the game thats it.

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#33 umcommon
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Aside from Tiger Woods 2010 there hasn't really been a great game that uses it. Look for Red Steel 2 and Zelda Wii to unlock more of it's potential next year :)
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#34 Shankapotomus
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Motion Plus is definitely and improvement over the regular controls, have you played Tiger Woods yet? Awesome. I just feel as though it isn't marketed enough though. It feels like not as many developers are willing to take advantage of it when they could churn out waggle controls and get decent sales.
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#35 Optusnet
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Let's wait for Zelda Wii...

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