Wii...is it going down that same road as Gamecube? (Poll)

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#1 LordelX
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It might be a little too early to say, but I'm starting to get that sinking feeling from Nintendo again. I really thought this generation would be the one where they change their strategies, but it looks as if the Wii s repeating the mistakes of the N64 and Gamecube.

- No online yet...every third party EA sports game should have had an online component by now. Nintendo has only announced Pokemon Battle Revolution as an online title. That's good if you're one of the 10 gamers over the age of 15 that likes Pokemon.

- Third parties aren't making mone on Wii software sales. If this trend keeps up, third party developers are going to drop support for the Wii just like they did for Gamecube.

- Big titles are being pushed back too far. At E3 2006, Super Mario Galaxy and Metriod Prime 3 looked almost done. Both should have been out by now, if not at least one of them. Nintendo seems to be strategically spacing titles out because it doesn't have enough of them. Super Paper Mario and Fire Emblem don't count......they were once Gamecube games.

Don't get me wrong, I like the Wii and I think it has the most potential of all the next generation consoles. But these trends can't be ignored....

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#2 heroofwinds1
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i think wii will not share the same fate with gamecube.i do not know if it comes in first place but iam syre it will go much better from gamecube.
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#3 gatsbythepig
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i think wii will not share the same fate with gamecube.i do not know if it comes in first place but iam syre it will go much better from gamecube.heroofwinds1
agreed
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#4 cyrax453
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Its virtually the same as the Cube, except with the Channels and the ability to get Virtual Console games. Nintendo always has the same titles, itll has its Metroid, Mario, Zelda (already), and Smash Brothers and those will sell but so far everything sucks. The graphics are not up to standards and the controls lose their novelty quickly, which just isnt enough to sell the system.
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#5 ReeceBrown
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there are alot of things wrong with your post online comes out in 2 months 3rd parrties can push them back a little so they can put online and crap like that, i dont see many mistakes would you rather have SSBB online or off also when they delay it makes people want it more! Like LOZ TP every time it got delayed  wanted it more becouse i knew they were trying to make it the best Zelda(if not the best game) this means some of nintendos "Killer" games are going to try to get online like metroid was supposed to come out early 2007 but delayed due to online. Once online comes out your "sinking" feeling with vanish 
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#6 WR_Platinum
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Its too early to say, just because Its had a slow (but VERY effective) start, doesn't mean that it will go down the same path as the Game Cube. Some people are sleepin on the Wii when it hasn't hit a year yet (and still along way to go). Remember when the 360 had its slow start? after one year it started to pick up momentum. Most people forget that which is funny. Its all a matter of time before Nintendo shows the goods.
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#7 thestergin
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Jeez!

One thing gamers do not have is PATIENCE! Its not even been out 6 months and people are wondering whats going to happen. Just wait people!

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- Third parties aren't making mone on Wii software sales. If this trend keeps up, third party developers are going to drop support for the Wii just like they did for Gamecube.LordelX

They are actually, else we wouldn't have companies like Ubisoft & EA keep continually porting decent and crap games over to it...

 

Anyhow, the 3rd-partys are also getting some dough thanks to the aforementioned "strategically" delayed 1st-party titles, as Nintendo wanted to give them some breathing space between their big guns.

 

As to whether or not the Wii will go the same route as GameCube, so far, it's still too early to tell, but if you ask me, I doubt it'll go down as quickly as the GameCube did, more-so since the machine is still in very high demand, and outselling the crap out of the PS3 still, and eventually, the XBX360 at this rate, and 3rd-partys like to develop for the console with the highest market penetration. 

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#9 Anthony9000
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Its virtually the same as the Cube, except with the Channels and the ability to get Virtual Console games. Nintendo always has the same titles, itll has its Metroid, Mario, Zelda (already), and Smash Brothers and those will sell but so far everything sucks. The graphics are not up to standards and the controls lose their novelty quickly, which just isnt enough to sell the system.cyrax453
ooooooo soooooooooooooooooooo...ur selling ur wii because it doesnt hav the best graphics =P
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#10 harleyrulesall
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the wii won't fail!
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At E3 2006, Super Mario Galaxy and Metriod Prime 3 looked almost done. Both should have been out by now,

LordelX

LOOKED almost done?

I didn't know they showed the entire game and had cleared the code of any glitches and errors at E3, do you know something we don't? 

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It might be a little too early to say, but I'm starting to get that sinking feeling from Nintendo again. I really thought this generation would be the one where they change their strategies, but it looks as if the Wii s repeating the mistakes of the N64 and Gamecube.

- No online yet...every third party EA sports game should have had an online component by now. Nintendo has only announced Pokemon Battle Revolution as an online title. That's good if you're one of the 10 gamers over the age of 15 that likes Pokemon.

- Third parties aren't making mone on Wii software sales. If this trend keeps up, third party developers are going to drop support for the Wii just like they did for Gamecube.

- Big titles are being pushed back too far. At E3 2006, Super Mario Galaxy and Metriod Prime 3 looked almost done. Both should have been out by now, if not at least one of them. Nintendo seems to be strategically spacing titles out because it doesn't have enough of them. Super Paper Mario and Fire Emblem don't count......they were once Gamecube games.

Don't get me wrong, I like the Wii and I think it has the most potential of all the next generation consoles. But these trends can't be ignored....

LordelX

I do agree with one thing that you said: It is too early to be saying this. You just have to be patient. We've waited patiently for every other system to pick up the slack by giving them a year or two. I don't see why we have to expect the Wii to dish out everything it's got in a few months. It won't take long before the Wii has some golden games, and we'll stop whining and start playing.

Oh, and to anyone who says that the Wii games have gimmicky controls, game developers aren't forced to use gimmicky controls for the game. They just have the option. Look at Super Paper Mario: the only things that game uses the functionality of the Wii remote for is to use Tippi (pointing at the screen to get info and stuff), perform Stylish moves (shake the Wii remote, which probably feels more natural than hitting a button), and using certain items (shaking the controller to use them). Everything else is set up pretty much like an NES controller.

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#16 MOM-D
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Its too early too tell.
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#19 SPHYNXA
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To be honest, I haven't used my Wii since January. I mean the only game that has come out since then that's any good is Wario Ware, but I still have a hard time coming to terms with paying almost $70 (after taxes, in Canada) for a Wii game. I think it's rediculous. So my new philosophy is that I'm only going to buy games when they're marked down... becuase my 360 is taking up a lot of my time. Getting back to your question, I've seen no indication that the Wii isn't going the way of the Gamecube. I'm especially puzzled how Nintendo said that their online infustructure would be up and running by January, yet now it's April and we're still waiting for, uhh... Pokemon? That's insane, what company would showcase it's online capabilities through a Pokemon game? It really is insane. To be frank.
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#20 SPHYNXA
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Oh, and the Virtual Console is a joke. $5 dollars for NES games? That's absolutely rediculous, I have no idea what they were thinking when they priced these games. Say that you price a NES game at $5 and 220,000 people buy it. I guarantee you that if you released that very game for $1, so many people would download it (cause hey, who wouldn't try out a game for a dollar?) that you would either likely tie with the number who would have boughten it at $5 (the plus-side being that you got your product in more people's hands which is good for a next-gen sequel, etc) or your profits go way, way higher because so many people would buy a $1 game. I bought one points card, bought Bomberman, and haven't touched those games since. What an absolute rip-off (except for you $10 64 games, that isn't so bad in comparison to $5 NES games).
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#21 waitaseck
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No way. The Gamecube wasn't a bad console either. Now people are starting to realize how great the gamecube was through the Wii. Nintendo will never be at the bottom again!
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#22 mariomusicmaker
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my thoughts exactly on pokemon. but isn't smashers the 1st online??