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#1 mywii1999
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What do you think Nintendo could make the wii beter, I can think of 10000's of reasons but I want to here form you.

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#2 DJ_Lae
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-HD output -DVD playback -Refined and improved Wii Shop -Proper automatic handling of 4:3 VC content -Club Nintendo tied purchases rather than console-locked -Fully wireless Classic Controller -Restart production of the Wavebird -Increase onboard storage from its piddly 512MB -Wireless nunchuck -Increased fidelity of Wiimote speaker And I'll probably think of more after I hit submit.
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#3 HawkEye1997
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HD DVD and Blu-ray player built in Classic controller Pro compatible with every game Better Online More memory More virtual console nunchunck having built in WM + Wiimote having built in WM + No more stupid devs who don't want to develop for the wii
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#4 DJ_Lae
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Classic controller Pro compatible with every gameHawkEye1997
YES. And I can't believe I forgot online. I guess I got so used to it being so awful that it basically lacked online altogether. But I'd love to be able to play something like Mario Galaxy with the classic controller. They'd just have to map the spin to a button and limit star collecting to the second player. And Twilight Princess should really have let you choose wiimote/Gamecube/classic controller in a menu. There's no reason it couldn't have.
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Mostly everything has been stated, but to add one (admittedly small) thing, it's GC controller support to the Wii Menu; it's an annoyance to click the "Start" button with the Wii remote when I'm not even going to use it anyway. Even automatically starting up the game when a GC disc is in the system would be nice.

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#6 AlmightyDerek
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Agree with most of those, except the classic controller support for all games. And the Wii's online isn't that bad, it works for me just as good as any other system. I'd be cool no friend codes though and they need to make it easier to assign wiimotes to different players instead of the archaic, hitting the home button, going to the wiimote settings and then clearing out the controllers and hitting 1+2 together to activate controller one. That process is much easier on the 360 and the easiest on the PS3.

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#7 ForzaAbruzzo
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I'm pretty low maintenance, but this is what I'd like:

-HD output

-Bigger selection of virtual console games

-DVD/Blu-Ray playing capabilities

-More titles targeted towards the older gamer

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if you mean next generation, top-notch technology and improved motion is all there is to improve, hardware-wise.
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What was the main reason(s) for Nintendo not including HD and DVD player capabilities in the Wii anyways? Was it due to time constraints in order to get the Wii out in time? Or was it due to the fact that so much money had already been invested into R&D for the motion technology?

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What was the main reason(s) for Nintendo not including HD and DVD player capabilities in the Wii anyways? Was it due to time constraints in order to get the Wii out in time? Or was it due to the fact that so much money had already been invested into R&D for the motion technology?

ForzaAbruzzo
HD was expensive at the time, and DVD is pointless. tell me, don't you have a DVD player already? why do you want another one?
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#11 mywii1999
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I think Nintendo should burn all of there Wii's and try to get Sony to agrey to a murger!:evil:

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#12 HawkEye1997
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ForzaAbruzzo"]

What was the main reason(s) for Nintendo not including HD and DVD player capabilities in the Wii anyways? Was it due to time constraints in order to get the Wii out in time? Or was it due to the fact that so much money had already been invested into R&D for the motion technology?

HD was expensive at the time, and DVD is pointless. tell me, don't you have a DVD player already? why do you want another one?

I have 5 dvd players :O JK
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HD was expensive at the time, and DVD is pointless. tell me, don't you have a DVD player already? why do you want another one?BrunoBRS
Would be good for those with kids and/or those who use the Wii on a secondary TV. There's no physical reason it couldn't play DVDs, Nintendo just cut costs by skipping the DVD licensing fee. On my main TV, I don't really care, as I have four devices hooked up to it that are all capable of playing DVDs and all that provide higher output resolutions and upscaling than the Wii.
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#14 almossbb
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ya the wii could be improved on seriously, but oh well i like my wii the way it is, i have my ps3 for the high tech gaming. i guess nintendo could upgrade the next generation system?

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[QUOTE="ForzaAbruzzo"]

What was the main reason(s) for Nintendo not including HD and DVD player capabilities in the Wii anyways? Was it due to time constraints in order to get the Wii out in time? Or was it due to the fact that so much money had already been invested into R&D for the motion technology?

BrunoBRS

HD was expensive at the time, and DVD is pointless. tell me, don't you have a DVD player already? why do you want another one?

I don't have a DVD player. I use my PS3 as a DVD player. And if you have a lot of things plugged into your tv, it's really helpful to combine appliances. I have a PS3, 360 and a Wii all plugged into my tv. I'm VERY grateful that at least one of them included a dvd player. (I'm aware two of them did, but only 1 of them is needed for me personally.) No, it's not helpful for me personally for a Wii to have a DVD function, but if all the companies decided not to include it, it would be extremely annoying to me. Especially on my old tv, that had one 1 spot for AV cables. That was a royal pain. And I'm sure there are at least some people out there that still have a tv like that, it wasn't that long ago really that I upgraded.

But the most important thing that they need to add is the ability to transfer downloaded games to another Wii. I replaced my Wii TWICE already. And both times I needed to rebuy my downloaded games. This is a serious problem, and it's the only change I want that I feel particularly strong about.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ForzaAbruzzo"]

What was the main reason(s) for Nintendo not including HD and DVD player capabilities in the Wii anyways? Was it due to time constraints in order to get the Wii out in time? Or was it due to the fact that so much money had already been invested into R&D for the motion technology?

Tropictrain

HD was expensive at the time, and DVD is pointless. tell me, don't you have a DVD player already? why do you want another one?

I don't have a DVD player. I use my PS3 as a DVD player. And if you have a lot of things plugged into your tv, it's really helpful to combine appliances. I have a PS3, 360 and a Wii all plugged into my tv. I'm VERY grateful that at least one of them included a dvd player. (I'm aware two of them did, but only 1 of them is needed for me personally.) No, it's not helpful for me personally for a Wii to have a DVD function, but if all the companies decided not to include it, it would be extremely annoying to me. Especially on my old tv, that had one 1 spot for AV cables. That was a royal pain. And I'm sure there are at least some people out there that still have a tv like that, it wasn't that long ago really that I upgraded.

But the most important thing that they need to add is the ability to transfer downloaded games to another Wii. I replaced my Wii TWICE already. And both times I needed to rebuy my downloaded games. This is a serious problem, and it's the only change I want that I feel particularly strong about.

They really do need to fix that problem, but if the Wii is broke Nintendo will transfer everything. They did with my Wii. It's much easier of course if everything is tied to an account as my 360 and PS3 also died and I just had to sign in and re-download. Also it would have been nice for Nintendo to spend a bit extra on DVD liscencing. It wouldn't have cut into there profits too much. I wouldn't use it as DVDs are old fashioned and the Wii doesn't even have a digital audio out anyway.
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ForzaAbruzzo"]

What was the main reason(s) for Nintendo not including HD and DVD player capabilities in the Wii anyways? Was it due to time constraints in order to get the Wii out in time? Or was it due to the fact that so much money had already been invested into R&D for the motion technology?

Tropictrain

HD was expensive at the time, and DVD is pointless. tell me, don't you have a DVD player already? why do you want another one?

I don't have a DVD player. I use my PS3 as a DVD player. And if you have a lot of things plugged into your tv, it's really helpful to combine appliances. I have a PS3, 360 and a Wii all plugged into my tv. I'm VERY grateful that at least one of them included a dvd player. (I'm aware two of them did, but only 1 of them is needed for me personally.) No, it's not helpful for me personally for a Wii to have a DVD function, but if all the companies decided not to include it, it would be extremely annoying to me. Especially on my old tv, that had one 1 spot for AV cables. That was a royal pain. And I'm sure there are at least some people out there that still have a tv like that, it wasn't that long ago really that I upgraded.

But the most important thing that they need to add is the ability to transfer downloaded games to another Wii. I replaced my Wii TWICE already. And both times I needed to rebuy my downloaded games. This is a serious problem, and it's the only change I want that I feel particularly strong about.

what? you had to pay twice for each Vc game? when i sent my wii in (for SSBB disk reading probs) they told me that if all data is earased along with my VC games, i could just go redownload them for free automatically. nintnedo should definately fix this prob soon.

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#18 ForzaAbruzzo
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[QUOTE="ForzaAbruzzo"]

What was the main reason(s) for Nintendo not including HD and DVD player capabilities in the Wii anyways? Was it due to time constraints in order to get the Wii out in time? Or was it due to the fact that so much money had already been invested into R&D for the motion technology?

BrunoBRS

HD was expensive at the time, and DVD is pointless. tell me, don't you have a DVD player already? why do you want another one?

Yes, I do already own a DVD player, but at the same time I doubt many people would complain about the fact that they could get another along with their gaming system. You'd also think that at this point it would almost be status quo to have at least a DVD built into the console, whether or not you actually plan to make full use of it.

As for the HD being "expensive", wouldn't it have been a worthwhile investment by Nintendo regardless?

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ForzaAbruzzo"]

What was the main reason(s) for Nintendo not including HD and DVD player capabilities in the Wii anyways? Was it due to time constraints in order to get the Wii out in time? Or was it due to the fact that so much money had already been invested into R&D for the motion technology?

ForzaAbruzzo

HD was expensive at the time, and DVD is pointless. tell me, don't you have a DVD player already? why do you want another one?

Yes, I do already own a DVD player, but at the same time I doubt many people would complain about the fact that they could get another along with their gaming system. You'd also think that at this point it would almost be status quo to have at least a DVD built into the console, whether or not you actually plan to make full use of it.

As for the HD being "expensive", wouldn't it have been a worthwhile investment by Nintendo regardless?

their userbase is twice the other console's userbase. they made a smart move because few people had it back then, so by excluding HD functionality, they broadened their market by giving access to a cheap videogame that works on standard TVs and still gives them profit. it's undeniable: making the wii SD was the smartest move nintendo's done in years.
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#20 AlmightyDerek
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[QUOTE="ForzaAbruzzo"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] HD was expensive at the time, and DVD is pointless. tell me, don't you have a DVD player already? why do you want another one?BrunoBRS

Yes, I do already own a DVD player, but at the same time I doubt many people would complain about the fact that they could get another along with their gaming system. You'd also think that at this point it would almost be status quo to have at least a DVD built into the console, whether or not you actually plan to make full use of it.

As for the HD being "expensive", wouldn't it have been a worthwhile investment by Nintendo regardless?

their userbase is twice the other console's userbase. they made a smart move because few people had it back then, so by excluding HD functionality, they broadened their market by giving access to a cheap videogame that works on standard TVs and still gives them profit. it's undeniable: making the wii SD was the smartest move nintendo's done in years.

Yeah Nintendo had to do something. Both the N64 and the Gamecube were more powerful than the PS1 and PS2 but that sure didn't help it with sales. Concentrating on making a fun mainstream system not only kept Nintendo alive, but it's thriving. Besides even today most people that don't frequent videogame forums really don't care that much about HD. Most random people just want to play wii bowling or tennis they don't go around saying, "oh no my console doesn't run in 720p!" I do hope Nintendo does put more effort into graphics next time though. I'm okay for now though, there are still some nice looking Wii games out there.
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#21 UbiquitousAeon
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  • Support for higher resolution on some Wii games. If the PS2 and Xbox can do it, I don't see why not.
  • More Nintendo 64 games and more games in general for the Virtual Console.
  • Price drops on old games.
  • Wii Remote + Nunchuck support for ALL virtual console games as it should have been in the first place.
  • Less party junk, more real games.
  • Online accounts for storing purchased Wii Ware or Virtual Console games, so they can be used on another console.
  • Virtual memory card support for GameCube games.
  • Stop selling the Nunchuckseperate from the Wii mote, instead include it with the Wii mote and sell it for $49.99. Realistically, I don't like that price, but they are a company who likes to make profits in excess.
  • Make a new franchise. I love Mario and Zelda as much as the next guy, but seriously, I'm freaking sick of not seeing anything new from Nintendo.
  • Lower the price on the console to $150, it's about freaking time considering that the hardware is ancient and was in the first place.

I could probably think of more things but I'll give it a rest.

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#22 MathMattS
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There are several things Nintendo could do to improve the Wii:

Make it HD.

Give it more storage, perhaps a hard drive.

Drastically expand the online content. This includes downloadable content, trailers, etc. for games.

It needs much, much stronger third party support. The Wii has good titles, but not nearly enough.

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What do you think Nintendo could make the wii beter, I can think of 10000's of reasons but I want to here form you.

mywii1999
I think the question is which of these upgrades are you willing to pay for in your console purchase? I don't want to pay for most of the things listed above in my console, keeping it at $400 was one of the factors for me. Adding in all those techs will drive it into PS3 price territory...
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#24 ForzaAbruzzo
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I'm a proud Wii owner, but needless to say, if it wasn't for the motion control technology, this would essentially be just another 6th generation console with marginally better visuals.

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#25 ForzaAbruzzo
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  • Support for higher resolution on some Wii games. If the PS2 and Xbox can do it, I don't see why not.
  • More Nintendo 64 games and more games in general for the Virtual Console.
  • Price drops on old games.
  • Wii Remote + Nunchuck support for ALL virtual console games as it should have been in the first place.
  • Less party junk, more real games.
  • Online accounts for storing purchased Wii Ware or Virtual Console games, so they can be used on another console.
  • Virtual memory card support for GameCube games.
  • Stop selling the Nunchuckseperate from the Wii mote, instead include it with the Wii mote and sell it for $49.99. Realistically, I don't like that price, but they are a company who likes to make profits in excess.
  • Make a new franchise. I love Mario and Zelda as much as the next guy, but seriously, I'm freaking sick of not seeing anything new from Nintendo.
  • Lower the price on the console to $150, it's about freaking time considering that the hardware is ancient and was in the first place.

I could probably think of more things but I'll give it a rest.

UbiquitousAeon

This bugs me too. You have to think that the cheaper launch price was pretty much balanced out by the necessity to spend more on the consoles numerous accessories. Lets face it, most Wii games require the nunchuck anyways, so selling them seperately is about as blatant an effort to cash in as I've ever seen.

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#26 jonathan_rector
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The title of this thread makes me really sad.

Especially considering the fact that spell check is a standard :(

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I don't know. You tell me what the Wii's FUTUER is for I don't even know what you're talking about.
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I don't know. You tell me what the Wii's FUTUER is for I don't even know what you're talking about.wiifan001
Come on, you know exactly what the TC is talking about. :roll:

I mean that's not the only mistake he made.

Original:

"What do you think Nintendo could make the wii beter, I can think of 10000's of reasons but I want to here form you."

Revised:

"What do you think Nintendo could do to make the wii beter? I can think of a thousand of reasons but I want to hear from you."

Still, that did not stop anyone in this topic from posting a valid response.

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#29 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]I don't know. You tell me what the Wii's FUTUER is for I don't even know what you're talking about.UbiquitousAeon

Come on, you know exactly what the TC is talking about. :roll:

I mean that's not the only mistake he made.

Original:

"What do you think Nintendo could make the wii beter, I can think of 10000's of reasons but I want to here form you."

Revised:

"What do you think Nintendo could do to make the wii beter? I can think of a thousand of reasons but I want to hear from you."

Still, that did not stop anyone in this topic from posting a valid response.

They're not valid though. I say they're not valid, and therefore they're not valid.

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#30 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]I don't know. You tell me what the Wii's FUTUER is for I don't even know what you're talking about.wiifan001

Come on, you know exactly what the TC is talking about. :roll:

They're not valid though. I say they're not valid, and therefore they're not valid.

Okay, boss.

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#31 Tropictrain
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]I don't know. You tell me what the Wii's FUTUER is for I don't even know what you're talking about.UbiquitousAeon

Come on, you know exactly what the TC is talking about. :roll:

I mean that's not the only mistake he made.

Original:

"What do you think Nintendo could make the wii beter, I can think of 10000's of reasons but I want to here form you."

Revised:

"What do you think Nintendo could do to make the wii beter? I can think of a thousand of reasons but I want to hear from you."

Still, that did not stop anyone in this topic from posting a valid response.

The funniest part is, even your revised version isn't error free. :P A thousand of reasons? Should either be a thousand reasons, or thousands of reasons. :P

I'm usually not one to comment on poor grammar, but I just find it hilarious when someone corrects grammar and still doesn't get it right. :P

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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]I don't know. You tell me what the Wii's FUTUER is for I don't even know what you're talking about.wiifan001

Come on, you know exactly what the TC is talking about. :roll:

I mean that's not the only mistake he made.

Original:

"What do you think Nintendo could make the wii beter, I can think of 10000's of reasons but I want to here form you."

Revised:

"What do you think Nintendo could do to make the wii beter? I can think of a thousand of reasons but I want to hear from you."

Still, that did not stop anyone in this topic from posting a valid response.

They're not valid though. I say they're not valid, and therefore they're not valid.

sorry if i said the wii doesn't need improvements and i'm still wrong :|

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#33 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]I don't know. You tell me what the Wii's FUTUER is for I don't even know what you're talking about.Tropictrain

Come on, you know exactly what the TC is talking about. :roll:

I mean that's not the only mistake he made.

Original:

"What do you think Nintendo could make the wii beter, I can think of 10000's of reasons but I want to here form you."

Revised:

"What do you think Nintendo could do to make the wii beter? I can think of a thousand of reasons but I want to hear from you."

Still, that did not stop anyone in this topic from posting a valid response.

The funniest part is, even your revised version isn't error free. :P A thousand of reasons? Should either be a thousand reasons, or thousands of reasons. :P

I'm usually not one to comment on poor grammar, but I just find it hilarious when someone corrects grammar and still doesn't get it right. :P

My bad, I didn't catch that "of", I meant to take it out but I missed it. lol

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#34 gamenerd15
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Put an ethernet jack on the system so people with wired connection can get online. Bring back franchises that would benefit from Wii's motion controls. Pilotwings would work very well, F-Zero, Star Fox, and Wave Race would also do well. True these all would be sequels but they are games we haven't seen for over half a decade. The last Pilotwings game was in 96. the last F-zero was in 03, Wave race was in 01, the last star fox was in 05 and that one was not as good as 97's 64. Come out with a new IP that is not part of the "Wii" category. The only new IP's Nintendo has done is Wii sports, fit and music.

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#35 Jamisonia
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Do you guys really think the HD was a good idea back in 2006. I really don't think it was necessary for any console to have upgraded to HD until the next generation. Most of the games on the HD consoles don't run at 720p anyway, they run somewhere in the 600s. I think some valid points have been made though. Namely some support issues, GCN controller on Wii Menu, auto 4:3 support on VC games, and such. The space issue was definitely a major oversight by Nintendo. Other than that I don't believe Nintendo was that far behind where they should be by this generation. Its like the N64, sure they were behind in a few areas (cartridges), but the concept was ahead of its time.

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#36 aransom
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The Wii is fine the way it is. Part of its success comes from it's comparatively low price tag.

The next Nintendo console needs 1080p, upgraded controls, digital audio, and larger storage. Everything else is nice but not really needed.

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#37 Madmangamer364
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Realistically, the only thing Nintendo can do to improve the Wii at this point is continue to provide high-quality software. Unless its getting more out of an accessory, like the Balance Board or the Vitality Sensor, expecting major hardware-related changes for a video game system three and a half years old is out of the question, and changing the system's interface at this juncture isn't much more likely. The Wii is what it is, and the whole world's had plenty of time to understand what it's supposed to be and what it was going to provide from the moment it launched to the time Nintendo moved on to a different system.

I'm going to assume the TC's question was hyperthetical, therefore giving him/her the benefit of the doubt to an extent. Although I start to have second thoughts about that when the TC then turns around and suggests that Nintendo should have a 'murger' with Sony...

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#38 mariokart64fan
Member since 2003 • 20828 Posts

well

these will happe next gen

-hd

-3d

- better online-it was said 3ds will have improved online so why shouldnt wiis successor

now the following is questionable

-dvd /bluray/hd wat ever movie format is still around next gen

-backwards compatibility with games beyound wii 1- we know nintendo wouldnt not put wii games in bc but what about gc etc

- not related to hardware but software-goldeneye remade

things that have already happened this gen i want to continue

1 third party exclusives/support , , this is off the heals of a few post up from me who wanted better support seriously how can you get any better then wii

it depends on your preferences on whether you want all the ps3 360 gameso n wii

i prefer it not to

i want original games

and you all better compare n64 to gc era then gc era t owii youll see how much more games we are seeing in these 2 gens alone

you want to talk bout bad support

n64 was the target of bad support sure good aaas every system has it

but the number of games available for n64 is only 398

gamecube was 628 -thats almost 45 percent greater then wii has right now over 500 downloadable and over 700 retail , -from the last time gs actually told the number it was at 500 somthing in yr 2 - we are in yr 4 , it had to have doubled at the rate it was going

and there we have it

i think wii has out standing support not perfect but what consoel is perfect -sure id say nes because it brought gaming back but realistically , no console is without bad apples

ps2 definately takes that crown because id sAY ABOUT 600 OUT OF THE 2000 PLUS ARE GOOD GAMES could be EVEN LESS DEPENDIN ON PREFERENCES

but without a doubt no console this gen is better then the wii -graphics and capabilities aside on a gaming level ,

i enjoy my wii and 360 more then i do my ps3 cause i dont know ps3 feels like a 360 to me minus bein able to play my music while playign gta iv i fell ps3 is the same as 360 with bluray added as a side effect

who needs bluray seriously , -when im lookin for a movie bluray hardly has that movie so ya who needs it

i see it more as being a want

this is the same way ifelt bout dvd back in 2000

like every new thing this will take time maybe even more time because their both disc formats

that wont make it easier for us to decide which is better ,

even on hdtvs dvd look about the same ,

the only difference is sound quality but if you got good tv speakers, sound isnt a problem

so here we have 60 gigs of disc space or more but , , only a 1-3 hour movie theres no way a 3 hr movie fills that, even i know that

there isnt even a dvd thats on two disc-except titanic-which theres also a 1 disc version so really , no movie needs 2 disc on dvd yet-bonus features dont count ,

as that isnt neccisary to watch the movie and before they used 2 disc for features they were able to get by with usin one

so if you can put these factors aside , ,

the wii has done an outstanding job -heck dont take this from me but even sony commented in saying -nintendo has done a fantastic job with the wii