Will nintendo ever step down and become a 3rd party?

Do you think it is possiable for nintendo to one day step down and become just a game developer. Because nintendo 1st party is grade A but as far as its 3rd party goes it does not sell. Many people only own 1st party games for the wii. So will they be better off as a 3rd party?EmperorZeruel

Didn't Nintendo say they would prefer to stop than to become a 3rd party?

Do you think it is possiable for nintendo to one day step down and become just a game developer. Because nintendo 1st party is grade A but as far as its 3rd party goes it does not sell. Many people only own 1st party games for the wii. So will they be better off as a 3rd party?EmperorZeruel

Of course it's possible...but I can't imagine it actually happening. People make too much of the whole third party situation. By the end of this year, I think 3rd party sales will have improved dramatically.

[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]Do you think it is possiable for nintendo to one day step down and become just a game developer. Because nintendo 1st party is grade A but as far as its 3rd party goes it does not sell. Many people only own 1st party games for the wii. So will they be better off as a 3rd party?Jazunn

Didn't Nintendo say they would prefer to stop than to become a 3rd party?

I remember Sega saying the same thing during the Genesis days. (and no, I don't have a link)

Not that I think Nintendo will ever become just a developer. But then again, when I play new games on my wii and then I play new games on my 360...I wonder why Nintendo seems to deliberately have it's feet stuck in the mud.

ah, no. this is nintendo, not sega. nintendo knows what they are doing. they basically brought video games back to life in the late 80's. yeahyeahbigN

And then they failed to see the changong market and failed miserably in the 90s.

Do you think it is possiable for nintendo to one day step down and become just a game developer. Because nintendo 1st party is grade A but as far as its 3rd party goes it does not sell. Many people only own 1st party games for the wii. So will they be better off as a 3rd party?EmperorZeruel

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Straight from today's news story.......

"I'll also mention that according to last December's top 100 games data from the NPD Group, Wii titles are outselling ********* titles, and only five of the 20 Wii titles on the list were created by Nintendo, with the remaining 15 from third party developers. But even with those numbers there, that isn't the impression you get. It feels like it takes a bit of time for popular perception to catch up to the actual sales figures."

Knowledge is power!

[QUOTE="yeahyeahbigN"]ah, no. this is nintendo, not sega. nintendo knows what they are doing. they basically brought video games back to life in the late 80's. Jazunn

And then they failed to see the changong market and failed miserably in the 90s.

yeah, the n64 and the gamecube weren't all that great systems, but now they have something going on for them. don't get me wrong, i loved my 64 and gc.

[QUOTE="yeahyeahbigN"]ah, no. this is nintendo, not sega. nintendo knows what they are doing. they basically brought video games back to life in the late 80's. Jazunn

And then they failed to see the changong market and failed miserably in the 90s.

lagged behind with the 64 and gamcube, sure...but, failed miserably?

i'd say you're making a pretty extreme statement there.

[QUOTE="yeahyeahbigN"]ah, no. this is nintendo, not sega. nintendo knows what they are doing. they basically brought video games back to life in the late 80's. Jazunn

And then they failed to see the changong market and failed miserably in the 90s.

Failed miserably? I don't remember playing Final Fantasy 2 and 3, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Illusion of Gaia, Dargon Quest 4, Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Goldeneye and dozens of other hit titles in the 90's and feeling like Nintendo had failed to provide stellar games.

Are you seriously saying that the 90's was an example of Nintendo failing miserably?

Do you think it is possiable for nintendo to one day step down and become just a game developer. Because nintendo 1st party is grade A but as far as its 3rd party goes it does not sell. Many people only own 1st party games for the wii. So will they be better off as a 3rd party?EmperorZeruel

What an odd time to ask this question given the incredible success Nintendo is having with both their console and their handheld! It was commonly believed among folks that didn't care for Nintendo in the N64 and Gamecube generations (or rather commonly "hoped"), yet even then it was extremely unlikely because Nintendo's business model allowed them to remain profitable in their endeavors. These days it's MUCH more unlikely since they've had a return to their salad days as a console provider, and never lost their salad days as a handheld provider.

I think any individuals who hope for this kind of finality from Nintendo, either now or in the past, ought to shift their hopes to other more likely occurances... like nearby supernovas or asteroid collisions.

Do you think it is possiable for nintendo to one day step down and become just a game developer. Because nintendo 1st party is grade A but as far as its 3rd party goes it does not sell. Many people only own 1st party games for the wii. So will they be better off as a 3rd party?EmperorZeruel

[QUOTE="yeahyeahbigN"]ah, no. this is nintendo, not sega. nintendo knows what they are doing. they basically brought video games back to life in the late 80's. Jazunn

And then they failed to see the changong market and failed miserably in the 90s.

I'm sorry man, but who says they failed? the SNES is popular worldwide, sure, the N64 didn't do well but they still made money enough to make the Gamecube, which just because more people had PS2's didn't mean it wasn't a success, and you can not, by any means of the word underestimate portable sales man, the gameboy and gameboy color dominated all portable sales and has been for 20 freakin years now with the introduction of Advance and DS, until they had enough money to shut up any naysayers with the Wii which is horrendously huge right now even with a lack of 3rd party support.

They'd drop out of the industry entirely (along with taking their franchises with them) before they'd go third party.

They'd drop out of the industry entirely (along with taking their franchises with them) before they'd go third party.

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agreed. and if anything, they'll either concentrate on handhelds only, or finally decide that HD (or what ever it will be in the future) will be the way to go. i feel that nintendo has always underminded their own potential. if they step down from anything, they'll put up one hell of a fight in doing so

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[QUOTE="yeahyeahbigN"]ah, no. this is nintendo, not sega. nintendo knows what they are doing. they basically brought video games back to life in the late 80's. KevComesRipping

And then they failed to see the changong market and failed miserably in the 90s.

I'm sorry man, but who says they failed? the SNES is popular worldwide, sure, the N64 didn't do well but they still made money enough to make the Gamecube, which just because more people had PS2's didn't mean it wasn't a success, and you can not, by any means of the word underestimate portable sales man, the gameboy and gameboy color dominated all portable sales and has been for 20 freakin years now with the introduction of Advance and DS, until they had enough money to shut up any naysayers with the Wii which is horrendously huge right now even with a lack of 3rd party support.

The SNES was a stellar success no doubt put the PSone and PS2 put the squeeze on Nintendo. The N64 saw the lost of major 3rd party support while at the same time Sony and the PS blew in a fresh of breath air in console gaming with the upgraded capacity of CDs offering better music scores and excellent cutscenes.

Nintendo refused to change and ended up with 2 dud consoles with the GC being the rock bottom. They then found success with the DS and applied the same formula to a console, the wii.

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[QUOTE="yeahyeahbigN"]ah, no. this is nintendo, not sega. nintendo knows what they are doing. they basically brought video games back to life in the late 80's. Jazunn

And then they failed to see the changong market and failed miserably in the 90s.

I'm sorry man, but who says they failed? the SNES is popular worldwide, sure, the N64 didn't do well but they still made money enough to make the Gamecube, which just because more people had PS2's didn't mean it wasn't a success, and you can not, by any means of the word underestimate portable sales man, the gameboy and gameboy color dominated all portable sales and has been for 20 freakin years now with the introduction of Advance and DS, until they had enough money to shut up any naysayers with the Wii which is horrendously huge right now even with a lack of 3rd party support.

The SNES was a stellar success no doubt put the PSone and PS2 put the squeeze on Nintendo. The N64 saw the lost of major 3rd party support while at the same time Sony and the PS blew in a fresh of breath air in console gaming with the upgraded capacity of CDs offering better music scores and excellent cutscenes.

Nintendo refused to change and ended up with 2 dud consoles with the GC being the rock bottom. They then found success with the DS and applied the same formula to a console, the wii.

...As well as longer load times and greater levels of piracy than had ever been seen prior. You can look back now and say Nintendo's decision was foolish backwards thinking, but there were legitimate concerns.

In any case, the N64 by the end of its run wasn't that far behind the PS1. It had garnered around 41% market share, with the PS1 managing around 50% (the remaining percentage going to the various other sytems of the time).

To the OP now:

Even if their sales in the home market were to colapse (which is unlikely), so long as they continue their domination of the handheld market there's really no chance of this happening. (handheld gaming is a far bigger market, especially in Japan)

not gonna happen..

-thats all i have to say..

-BESIDES THIS!: siriously.. inform yourself! there are plenty of webpages, and even books!! that can educate you and let you know that that is just not going to happen.. NEVER

EDIT: never..

well not for this gen and the next at least. with the wii and ds selling as well as they are, and with ninty software also selling alot, i dont think nintendo can see any reason to go 3rd party, and rightfully so. 3rd party software is also doing pretty well on it (more 3rd parties keep jumping on baord so wii must be doing something right on the software sales front).

will they ever? well years ago they said that they would rather leave the industry completly than develop for another companies machine. now whether thats a bluff is debateable. however at the mo, they certainly have nothing to worry about.

i think i will be old or even death, and nintendo still in the business

Well I could tell you that someday when hardware plateaus and people can't tell a difference between hardware and what makes one better from the other then Nintendo might become a 3rd party developer. Because at that point hopefully it'll be like DVD players, one system plays all games. There could be ports to add crazy stuff (USB __.0 with incredibly fast data transfer) and allows motion sensing or whatever else for those who want it.

There would still be wars but they wouldn't be called System Wars instead it'd be "who's your company" or "What does your accessory setup enable you to do?" Until then (and likely even then when it does happen) Nintendo will be a hardware manufacturer otherwise they'll ride themselves into the ground before it can happen.

With the success of the Wii and DS? NeverErebyssial

I couldn't have said it better, myself.

Never unless never happens, then it'll be neverJaysonguy

Just remember back in the day we were of never throught sega will become a third party but look at them now. Even throught Nintendo does say they rather drop out completly rather then become a 3rd party. I dout they will do that because everyone will lose their job and they wont make any money, They will stay in and make some profit instead of none. EmperorZeruel

I personally am a Sega fan. Dreamcast was one of the best consoles I ever owned, but I was not really all that surprised by Sega's sudden announcement to do software only. They always had financial problems. While they were a big success in Japan and the arcade industry, elsewhere most of their success was in the vacuum of competition. The Sega Saturn did all right on its own. It was the first out the door which seems to be one of Sega's favorite strategies. But when the playstation came out it waned. By the time the N64 hit the market it was dead. The dreamcast did successful. Again first out the door. We see the same process all over again. Ps2 killed it and Sega gives up and says they are only going to make software now. I mean back in the good old days of Snes everytime Nintendo came out with a metroid game, a mario game, or a donkey kong game, Sega's shares would drop some insane number like 35%.

Sega sure did well in Japan they just couldn't pull the figures they needed everywhere else. So to anyone who was paying attention it shouldn't have been that much of a shocker.

Nintendo on the other hand is far from being in the same boat as sega. It should be obvious to anyone their sales figures show that.

Just some quick trivia on how valuable a company Nintendo is.

The market value of Nintendo as of 2007 is over 85 billion dollars, making it Japan's third most valuable listed company right behind Toyota Motor corp and Mitsubishi UFJ Financial group (Japan's largest bank).

Also despite the fact that Sony's total revenue is 8 times larger than nintendo's, Nintendo's market value is double that of Sony's.

Nintendo won't quit the console business unless they are forced to financially that is which doesn't look like it is going to happen anytime soon. Sega on the other hand had to cause they were finding themselves deep in debt.

Just remember back in the day we were of never throught sega will become a third party but look at them now. Even throught Nintendo does say they rather drop out completly rather then become a 3rd party. I dout they will do that because everyone will lose their job and they wont make any money, They will stay in and make some profit instead of none. EmperorZeruel

Seriously, why do you ignore everything around you and believe that Nintendo is in ANY danger of following Sega's footsteps given the unexpected success of the DS and Wii?

1) ZOMG MAILER_DAEMON got a new icon!

2)Nintendo has expressively said that they will not make software on a non-Nintendo system. Yamaguchi and Iwata actually. However, I would not put it past Nintendo to sell IP's to stay afloat on their final downfall. So I do see third parties making Nintendo games like Star Fox, Kid Icarus, and Donkey Kong on other consoles before the end.

Hey, it's how we got Red Star and Turok, so don't complain about it.

No, Nintendo will never step down and become a 3rd party. Simple. True. If Nintendo stops making their own consoles, I will stop playing video games altogether. Nintendo still makes great games and systems regardless of what some people think and they are healthy competition for other companies. If they didn't have their own console do you think the collective quality of video games in general would increase or decrease?

In conclusion diversity=good.

You are not prepared...Sliverwarrior

LOL

Do you think it is possiable for nintendo to one day step down and become just a game developer. Because nintendo 1st party is grade A but as far as its 3rd party goes it does not sell. Many people only own 1st party games for the wii. So will they be better off as a 3rd party?EmperorZeruel

Quick fact I want to add. Nintendo was actually founded in 1889 by Fusajiro Yamauchi. It was originally a playing card company. Nintendo tried many different small niche businesses such as a Taxi company and a chain of love hotels (Thats our family fun company for ya! lol), before getting into the business of video games in the 1970s. Obviously this makes Nintendo the oldest and most experienced in the video game industry,

Also interesting is it turns out Nintendo are majority owners of the Seattle Mariners.

A lot of you may have already known all this ,but I thought I would make a quick post for those who did not...Cause knowledge is power! nah I'm kidding lol