Will the Wii U use one universal friend code?
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I think it will. Why? Well, they wouldn't have released the 3DS with one universal friend code if they didn't plan on doing it on the Wii U. They want some connectivity between units and I'm sure making them use similar online set ups would help. Infact, I'm hoping they let me tie my 3DS friend code to my Wii U. I know everyone wants user names, but I really don't think it will end up that way. Look at the Nintendo Network. They put the Network logo on Kid Icarus: Uprising, and it uses the 3DS single friend code. Do you really think they will have two separate online set ups for their consoles? They didn't really for the DS. I don't think it will be that bad. I can already see what my friends are playing on their 3DS, join them in progress, send them messages in a very good messaging application.bonesawisready5
Nintendo already confirmed that Nintendo Network will use Gamertags. Friend Codes are out completely.
[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I think it will. Why? Well, they wouldn't have released the 3DS with one universal friend code if they didn't plan on doing it on the Wii U. They want some connectivity between units and I'm sure making them use similar online set ups would help. Infact, I'm hoping they let me tie my 3DS friend code to my Wii U. I know everyone wants user names, but I really don't think it will end up that way. Look at the Nintendo Network. They put the Network logo on Kid Icarus: Uprising, and it uses the 3DS single friend code. Do you really think they will have two separate online set ups for their consoles? They didn't really for the DS. I don't think it will be that bad. I can already see what my friends are playing on their 3DS, join them in progress, send them messages in a very good messaging application.TyberZannxxxx
Nintendo already confirmed that Nintendo Network will use Gamertags. Friend Codes are out completely.
Link? They've spoken kindly of user names. They've never (to my knowledge) said "Yes, it will use that" If you've got a link to Iwata saying "Yes, the Wii U will use a single user name" instead of rumors or "it will be greatly improved and similar to other services" than that is in no way a confirmation You also ignore the fact that Kid Icarus Uprising and Mario Tennis Open use the Nintendo Network, yet they use one single friend code[QUOTE="TyberZannxxxx"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I think it will. Why? Well, they wouldn't have released the 3DS with one universal friend code if they didn't plan on doing it on the Wii U. They want some connectivity between units and I'm sure making them use similar online set ups would help. Infact, I'm hoping they let me tie my 3DS friend code to my Wii U. I know everyone wants user names, but I really don't think it will end up that way. Look at the Nintendo Network. They put the Network logo on Kid Icarus: Uprising, and it uses the 3DS single friend code. Do you really think they will have two separate online set ups for their consoles? They didn't really for the DS. I don't think it will be that bad. I can already see what my friends are playing on their 3DS, join them in progress, send them messages in a very good messaging application.bonesawisready5
Nintendo already confirmed that Nintendo Network will use Gamertags. Friend Codes are out completely.
Link? They've spoken kindly of user names. They've never (to my knowledge) said "Yes, it will use that" If you've got a link to Iwata saying "Yes, the Wii U will use a single user name" instead of rumors or "it will be greatly improved and similar to other services" than that is in no way a confirmation You also ignore the fact that Kid Icarus Uprising and Mario Tennis Open use the Nintendo Network, yet they use one single friend codehttp://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/01/wii_u_to_get_online_user_accounts
I don't think it will be that bad. I can already see what my friends are playing on their 3DS, join them in progress, send them messages in a very good messaging application.bonesawisready5To be fair, a very good messaging app wouldn't require you to exit out of any game you're playing and take several hours for your friend to receive a message. I expect a universal code like the 3DS, although I'd like to see some actual integration with Club Nintendo accounts (mostly for transferring Wii purchases) and maybe an online side similar to XBL and PSN for checking friend lists and sending messages. I'd also like it to be less crippled and awkward than the 3DS, although that might be asking a bit much of Nintendo.
[QUOTE="TyberZannxxxx"]Fantastic news, Nintendo joins the 21st century! Iwata says: "Also for the Wii U, we are planning to introduce a personal account system compatible with Nintendo Network. With this, for example, the ease of using a video game system when the hardware is shared by multiple family members, which has been a challenge we needed to tackle, shall be improved, and we will also be able to construct and offer the system by combining a variety of different services and content." Ok, why are you guys taking this as no friend codes? He never said "no friend codes". My 3DS uses a single universal friend code and guess what? I have a personal account on the system for all my downloads since I can transfer all of my downloads between units. The wording is incredibly vague and purposefully so. Nintendo didn't even reveal that the 3DS used a single universal friend code until January 2011, two months before the 3DS released. Of course they aren't going to tell you it uses some sort of friend codes, since it will be groaned about by the gaming community no matter how much they improve it. Iwata has never said "The Wii U will not use friend codes." Never. I'm sorry but it is still a very, very strong possibilty. This is no confirmation of anything. You guys really think they'll have two different online set ups for their consoles? That isn't very likely, as much as I'd want user names. I'd also like to point out again, that Iwata says "personal account compatible with Nintendo Network". Guess what else is compatible with the Nintendo Network? Kid Icarus and Mario Tennis Open, Theatrhythm Final Fantasy and Heroes of Ruin. They all ship with the logo on the box, and "use" the new network as Nintendo says. So what really is going to be different between the 3DS Nintendo Network and the Wii U Nintendo Network? It wouldn't really be a "network" if it was different between systems because they wouldn't be, uhh, networking together as platforms. EDIT: I added this to the OP, I should've had it their in the first place. 1up and Nintendo say friend codes will be present on the Wii U It isn't surprising at all. Nintendo thinks one universal friend code is a personal account, and by my experiences on my 3DS is pretty much is.http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/01/wii_u_to_get_online_user_accounts
DJ_Lae
Nintendo has already stated that there will be no friends codes on Wii U. It'll have accounts like PS3 and 360. Learn to google
http://www.1up.com/news/friend-codes-refined-wii-closer-things-closer-xbox-live
http://wiiugo.com/ubisoft-wii-u-has-scrapped-friend-codes/
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-wii-u-scraps-friend-codes-for-username-friends-list-203359.phtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Network
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1217360p1.html
Destructoid, 1up, and IGN are all legit big sites.
Also if you question Wikipedia's validity, the sources for the article's are at the bottom of the page.
[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"][QUOTE="TyberZannxxxx"]Fantastic news, Nintendo joins the 21st century! Iwata says: "Also for the Wii U, we are planning to introduce a personal account system compatible with Nintendo Network. With this, for example, the ease of using a video game system when the hardware is shared by multiple family members, which has been a challenge we needed to tackle, shall be improved, and we will also be able to construct and offer the system by combining a variety of different services and content." Ok, why are you guys taking this as no friend codes? He never said "no friend codes". My 3DS uses a single universal friend code and guess what? I have a personal account on the system for all my downloads since I can transfer all of my downloads between units. The wording is incredibly vague and purposefully so. Nintendo didn't even reveal that the 3DS used a single universal friend code until January 2011, two months before the 3DS released. Of course they aren't going to tell you it uses some sort of friend codes, since it will be groaned about by the gaming community no matter how much they improve it. Iwata has never said "The Wii U will not use friend codes." Never. I'm sorry but it is still a very, very strong possibilty. This is no confirmation of anything. You guys really think they'll have two different online set ups for their consoles? That isn't very likely, as much as I'd want user names. I'd also like to point out again, that Iwata says "personal account compatible with Nintendo Network". Guess what else is compatible with the Nintendo Network? Kid Icarus and Mario Tennis Open, Theatrhythm Final Fantasy and Heroes of Ruin. They all ship with the logo on the box, and "use" the new network as Nintendo says. So what really is going to be different between the 3DS Nintendo Network and the Wii U Nintendo Network? It wouldn't really be a "network" if it was different between systems because they wouldn't be, uhh, networking together as platforms. EDIT: I added this to the OP, I should've had it their in the first place. 1up and Nintendo say friend codes will be present on the Wii U It isn't surprising at all. Nintendo thinks one universal friend code is a personal account, and by my experiences on my 3DS is pretty much is. There's no arguing with a person like you, you're purpose is to be negative not to have an actual discussion where you want to be reasoned with. Stop going on manic rants Nintendo hasn't said there will be friend codes, neither have they said there will.http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/01/wii_u_to_get_online_user_accounts
bonesawisready5
You used the link I already provided where the marketing manager of Nintendo says their will be refined friend codes, days after each of the other (non-Wikipedia) sources you linked to. By personal account they could very easily mean "a universal friend code" for you that spans all devices. There already have all of these Nintendo Network features on the 3DS, for the most part.Nintendo has already stated that there will be no friends codes on Wii U. It'll have accounts like PS3 and 360. Learn to google
http://www.1up.com/news/friend-codes-refined-wii-closer-things-closer-xbox-live
http://wiiugo.com/ubisoft-wii-u-has-scrapped-friend-codes/
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-wii-u-scraps-friend-codes-for-username-friends-list-203359.phtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Network
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1217360p1.htmlDestructoid, 1up, and IGN are all legit big sites.
Also if you question Wikipedia's validity, the sources for the article's are at the bottom of the page.
DazedDarkness
[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"]You used the link I already provided where the marketing manager of Nintendo says their will be refined friend codes, days after each of the other (non-Wikipedia) sources you linked to. By personal account they could very easily mean "a universal friend code" for you that spans all devices. There already have all of these Nintendo Network features on the 3DS, for the most part.Nintendo has already stated that there will be no friends codes on Wii U. It'll have accounts like PS3 and 360. Learn to google
http://www.1up.com/news/friend-codes-refined-wii-closer-things-closer-xbox-live
http://wiiugo.com/ubisoft-wii-u-has-scrapped-friend-codes/
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-wii-u-scraps-friend-codes-for-username-friends-list-203359.phtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Network
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1217360p1.htmlDestructoid, 1up, and IGN are all legit big sites.
Also if you question Wikipedia's validity, the sources for the article's are at the bottom of the page.
bonesawisready5
But the problem with friend codes it that people have to personally know each other to add each other. And on top of that, both people must add each other's code on order to be added to each other's friend's list. With gamertags, people can friend each other with the press of a button (or two). Nintendo is not making the same mistake twice. Friend Codes are out. They are NOT coming back!
Also, Nintendo will be fine with usernames for Nintendo Network. As for privacy, I'll tell you how Nintendo will let people handle that:
Step #1: Block abusive user
Step #2: Report the abusive user to Nintendo
Step #3: Nintendo bans reported user from Nintendo Network
Those 3 steps make Friend Codes unnecessary.
You used the link I already provided where the marketing manager of Nintendo says their will be refined friend codes, days after each of the other (non-Wikipedia) sources you linked to. By personal account they could very easily mean "a universal friend code" for you that spans all devices. There already have all of these Nintendo Network features on the 3DS, for the most part.[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="DazedDarkness"]
Nintendo has already stated that there will be no friends codes on Wii U. It'll have accounts like PS3 and 360. Learn to google
http://www.1up.com/news/friend-codes-refined-wii-closer-things-closer-xbox-live
http://wiiugo.com/ubisoft-wii-u-has-scrapped-friend-codes/
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-wii-u-scraps-friend-codes-for-username-friends-list-203359.phtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Network
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1217360p1.htmlDestructoid, 1up, and IGN are all legit big sites.
Also if you question Wikipedia's validity, the sources for the article's are at the bottom of the page.
TyberZannxxxx
But the problem with friend codes it that people have to personally know each other to add each other. And on top of that, both people must add each other's code on order to be added to each other's friend's list. With gamertags, people can friend each other with the press of a button (or two). Nintendo is not making the same mistake twice. Friend Codes are out. They are NOT coming back!
Also, Nintendo will be fine with usernames for Nintendo Network. As for privacy, I'll tell you how Nintendo will let people handle that:
Step #1: Block abusive user
Step #2: Report the abusive user to Nintendo
Step #3: Nintendo bans reported user from Nintendo Network
Those 3 steps make Friend Codes unnecessary.
You can do all of that with friend codes. The 3DS shorten the code from 15 digits to 12, who says Nintendo doesn't make Wii U codes 5 digits? Besides, most user names are about as long as one friend code anyway. It isn't that much harder to add people. I don't know why people are disregarding a rep from Nintendo, not just any rep their Marketing Manager telling 1up, on the record after last year's E3 that it will use a refined friend code system. It's straight from Nintendo's mouth, he even says Iwata will reveal more details later and Iwata repeated the things he said 7 months later.No one knows exactly how Nintendo will do this, so its pointless to argue over it. Right now, all we know is the console will feature something similar to what the other consoles have. Accounts, which will have your activity linked to them vs being linked to the hardware itself. Codes vs names, is anyone's guess right now. SepewrathWhat I'm guessing is you'll have a code, that you can give a user name, that will be the account for 3DS/Wii U players. Hopefully I can tie my 3DS and Wii U together. It will be really stupid if Nintendo has different set ups.
All I know is messaging better be usable and easy and if I add someone or someone add me I get a notification to accept and add or reject. What's so hard about that? As a bonus I want 3ds and wiiu tied together.AutoPilotOnMe too.
Besides, most user names are about as long as one friend code anyway. It isn't that much harder to add people. I don't know why people are disregarding a rep from Nintendo, not just any rep their Marketing Manager telling 1up, on the record after last year's E3 that it will use a refined friend code system.bonesawisready5I would agree about the first part, look at your name for example, that's no simpler than a code and that is far from the most extreme username I've seen. The second half, reps don't know the whole story, especially that early on. Things are constantly in flux, I find it hard to believe that they would of had that nailed down already, when they didn't even have the hardware nailed down; certainly not the point where a rep could comment on it. I would say just wait and see, what was said last year isn't reputable enough to take as fact.
[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]Besides, most user names are about as long as one friend code anyway. It isn't that much harder to add people. I don't know why people are disregarding a rep from Nintendo, not just any rep their Marketing Manager telling 1up, on the record after last year's E3 that it will use a refined friend code system.SepewrathI would agree about the first part, look at your name for example, that's no simpler than a code and that is far from the most extreme username I've seen. The second half, reps don't know the whole story, especially that early on. Things are constantly in flux, I find it hard to believe that they would of had that nailed down already, when they didn't even have the hardware nailed down; certainly not the point where a rep could comment on it. I would say just wait and see, what was said last year isn't reputable enough to take as fact. It could still change, but I do think that they would have some details on the Wii U online set up ironed out last year since (once again) I believe it will be very similar to the 3DS's set up. The Nintendo Network is seeming like a stream lined version of Nintendo WiFi. That's good too, I'm enjoying it so far, not that I've really be able to tell the difference other than a logo. Anyone else notice all early 3DS online games didn't ship with "Nintendo Network" or "Nintendo WiFi" on the boxes? I wondered about that, and I guess the Network answered that. I don't think they'd leave the logo off for no reason.
Link? They've spoken kindly of user names. They've never (to my knowledge) said "Yes, it will use that" If you've got a link to Iwata saying "Yes, the Wii U will use a single user name" instead of rumors or "it will be greatly improved and similar to other services" than that is in no way a confirmation You also ignore the fact that Kid Icarus Uprising and Mario Tennis Open use the Nintendo Network, yet they use one single friend code[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="TyberZannxxxx"]
Nintendo already confirmed that Nintendo Network will use Gamertags. Friend Codes are out completely.
TyberZannxxxx
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/01/wii_u_to_get_online_user_accounts
About time!I'm so damn tired of these friend codes.What about the fact I thought you can more than 1 account per system doesn't that make it harder for FC as that's tied to system?AutoPilotOnUm, they could just allow multiple friend codes like allowing multiple user names. It isn't that hard to imagine. You're just changing letters to numbers
[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]What about the fact I thought you can more than 1 account per system doesn't that make it harder for FC as that's tied to system?bonesawisready5Um, they could just allow multiple friend codes like allowing multiple user names. It isn't that hard to imagine. You're just changing letters to numbers Well I could care less if it's codes or not I hate having to come up with name anyways lol I just want it to be easier to add friends and more things to do when they are added.
[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]What about the fact I thought you can more than 1 account per system doesn't that make it harder for FC as that's tied to system?AutoPilotOnUm, they could just allow multiple friend codes like allowing multiple user names. It isn't that hard to imagine. You're just changing letters to numbers Well I could care less if it's codes or not I hate having to come up with name anyways lol I just want it to be easier to add friends and more things to do when they are added. On the 3DS you can see strangers you've played against recently in the Mii Plaza. I don't think you can add them to the friend list but that would need a simple update. I'm sure they'll do something like this on the Wii U so adding people online isn't a strain.
[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]What about the fact I thought you can more than 1 account per system doesn't that make it harder for FC as that's tied to system?AutoPilotOnUm, they could just allow multiple friend codes like allowing multiple user names. It isn't that hard to imagine. You're just changing letters to numbers Well I could care less if it's codes or not I hate having to come up with name anyways lol I just want it to be easier to add friends and more things to do when they are added.
Easy. Know the person you are adding.
They don't even need friend codes for there to be a connection between the Wii U and 3DS version of Smash Brothers. They have NFC, a take on download play and a couple of other means to do it without using any kind of linking of accounts. So that's does nothing to indicate the two systems will be the same. And people aren't guessing at anything, its already been confirmed, that they are linking everything to individual accounts.
The only questions about that are how like XBL will it be and how unlike it, will be. Live can screw you up with license transfers and all that, but every gamertag on the box, can use say DLC, Demos etc downloaded from the others. Nintendo could possible have all accounts on a system be completely separate, where there is no overlap for digital purchases(every account has to buy its on VC games). But at the same time, they could take it easy on the licenses, like you could buy something under your name on a friends console and not have a hard way to go, about getting it on your own system. But those are the only real questions, you can argue it all you like, but its already written in stone that the systems are different.
Well I could care less if it's codes or not I hate having to come up with name anyways lol I just want it to be easier to add friends and more things to do when they are added.[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] Um, they could just allow multiple friend codes like allowing multiple user names. It isn't that hard to imagine. You're just changing letters to numbersgoblaa
Easy. Know the person you are adding.
That's the lamest excuse. So your ok with the way it currently is?I'm not trying to argue, just trying to have a fun debate. It isn't set in stone anymore than what I'm saying is set in stone. Also, isn't NFC something that needs to be built into the device already? If so, the 3DS certainly doesn't have it so that squashes that. (but I'm not familar at all with NFC so I wouldn't know) Sadly we likely won't get details until a month or two before the Wii U launch.They don't even need friend codes for there to be a connection between the Wii U and 3DS version of Smash Brothers. They have NFC, a take on download play and a couple of other means to do it without using any kind of linking of accounts. So that's does nothing to indicate the two systems will be the same. And people aren't guessing at anything, its already been confirmed, that they are linking everything to individual accounts.
The only questions about that are how like XBL will it be and how unlike it, will be. Live can screw you up with license transfers and all that, but every gamertag on the box, can use say DLC, Demos etc downloaded from the others. Nintendo could possible have all accounts on a system be completely separate, where there is no overlap for digital purchases(every account has to buy its on VC games). But at the same time, they could take it easy on the licenses, like you could buy something under your name on a friends console and not have a hard way to go, about getting it on your own system. But those are the only real questions, you can argue it all you like, but its already written in stone that the systems are different.
Sepewrath
[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"] Well I could care less if it's codes or not I hate having to come up with name anyways lol I just want it to be easier to add friends and more things to do when they are added. AutoPilotOn
Easy. Know the person you are adding.
That's the lamest excuse. So your ok with the way it currently is?Actually yes. It keeps kids from friending strangers. Playing people online annyomsly is fine and all, but if you're going to communicate with them, they should be people you know.
That's the lamest excuse. So your ok with the way it currently is?[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"][QUOTE="goblaa"]
Easy. Know the person you are adding.
goblaa
Actually yes. It keeps kids from friending strangers. Playing people online annyomsly is fine and all, but if you're going to communicate with them, they should be people you know.
Again lame excuse. I hate the current friends system or lack of. Ps3 360, vita, don't seem to have a problem with it. All I want is a notification when 1 person adds you to accept and add them or reject. That doesn't endanger any kiddie who if is that young its a concern should have better parenting anyways. Nintendo is not the parent/watch dog[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"] That's the lamest excuse. So your ok with the way it currently is?AutoPilotOn
Actually yes. It keeps kids from friending strangers. Playing people online annyomsly is fine and all, but if you're going to communicate with them, they should be people you know.
Again lame excuse. I hate the current friends system or lack of. Ps3 360, vita, don't seem to have a problem with it.And I would say those are bad services that allow kids to get online and bombard people with racial slurs.
All I want is a notification when 1 person adds you to accept and add them or reject. That doesn't endanger any kiddie who if is that young its a concern should have better parenting anyways. Nintendo is not the parent/watch dogAutoPilotOnYou would think so, but in the world we live in, that's not the case. Less we forget stories like "Sexbox" where Microsoft was blamed for people's online communications. Or the recent legislation in NY where convicted sex offenders aren't allowed to XBL. At the end of the day, the onus of protecting the children is on anyone but the parent's apparently. The media and political groups are always looking for a way to crucify game makers. Though a robust set of parental controls could go a long way to solve the problem of not monitoring a child. Have the option to put friend list management, messages, and online interaction behind a parental control. Of even with all that, it would change anything for the aforementioned groups.
Again lame excuse. I hate the current friends system or lack of. Ps3 360, vita, don't seem to have a problem with it.[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"][QUOTE="goblaa"]
Actually yes. It keeps kids from friending strangers. Playing people online annyomsly is fine and all, but if you're going to communicate with them, they should be people you know.
goblaa
And I would say those are bad services that allow kids to get online and bombard people with racial slurs.
That isn't the service's fault. Blame the kids.To debate is an argument lol. People shouldn't take the word argue with a negative connotation. And it is set in stone, as it was said by Iwata in a investors meeting and then released to the media. I'm pretty sure he's knows what he's talking about. When it comes to NFC, you don't need the actual 3DS, you can use the 3DS cartridge or box. Like say you scan the 3DS box, so you get an extra character and stage. The systems are different, the Wii U system should allow you to play your account on any Wii U, but your FC only works on the 3DS you got it with. You cant play it someone else' or on a new 3DS you buy. Sepewrath
At the same time, you can't rule out what Nintendo's marketing manager said last E3 about the Wii U using "refined" friend codes.
Iwata hasn't gone into great detail yet. Like I keep saying, user accounts will work just the same with digits instead of letters.
And on my question about NFC, so you it doesn't have to be built into a device? Wouldn't each device need to have NFC (if it's a built in thing) to work with each other, or is it something software updates can fix? I really don't know.
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