Will there be a price drop anytime soon?

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#1 halokillerz
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I really want a will, but at $200 CAD its not worth getting YET as i prolly wont be playing a whole lot.

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#2 moltenix
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Well, we did just get one a few months ago, so I wouldn't expect a drop anytime soon. Besides, as of a few weeks ago, the Wii now comes bundled with Wii Sports Resort and Wii Motion Plus. So its now even more bang for your buck.

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#3 rpgxaddict
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Ha, you're lucky. I bought my Wii when it was like 300 bucks or 250, I forgot. But, I got it when it came out. It's totally worth it. It's for casual gamers, so if you're hardcore then you may not get enough haha. I'm hardcore myself, but I have a gamer PC and a Xbox 360. Lul. IMO, you should get it, especially you get all the little bonuses that come with it.
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#4 XenoLair
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As long as its selling well, probably no.

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#5 Sepewrath
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The price just dropped less than a year ago and they added WM+ and WSR to the package, so no. I wouldn't recommend buying a console that doesn't have at least 10 must play games. If it has 10 and I'm sure there are others you want, than you should be playing it often. If it doesn't meet that requirement then you shouldn't buy it at all.
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#6 KBFloYd
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yea.. the new deal 199 also gets you wii sports resort and wm+.. so its not a price drop but you get free items :P

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#7 BrunoBRS
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it just dropped recently. you can always try to look for a used one...
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#8 BuryMe
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There was already a price drop relatively recently, it's the cheapest console on the market, and it's selling.

So no, it's not going down in price any time soon.

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#9 AlmightyDerek
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The earliest a price drop could happen is around christmas. Like everyone else has said it dropped last fall and recently has gotten a new color and added an extra free game with peripheral, so it won't likely drop anytime too soon.

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#10 Master_Of_Fools
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Dude $200 is cheap!!!! I bought my first wii on the day it first came out and that was like $399 or something like that. Then it broke and I bought a second one and this one was like $280 so it was a good deal now I hear it is $200!!! And it comes with a game and Wii Motion Plus damn man thats an insane deal not to mention there are black Wii's now.

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Ha, you're lucky. I bought my Wii when it was like 300 bucks or 250, I forgot. But, I got it when it came out. It's totally worth it. It's for casual gamers, so if you're hardcore then you may not get enough haha. I'm hardcore myself, but I have a gamer PC and a Xbox 360. Lul. IMO, you should get it, especially you get all the little bonuses that come with it.rpgxaddict
The Wii was never 300 it was always 250, therefore in all of 3 (more like 3.5 now) years nintendo has only dropped their price ONCE (50 bucks), which is absolutely pathetic and uneccessary. There is NO WAY the Wii costs 200 to manufacture. i bet they make a killing on Wii's :P. Seriously I know its a business and all, but it sucks to know that just because they are doing well this gen, they are taking money form blind consumers. If the Wii was cheaper i MIGHT buy one as well.

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#13 Sepewrath
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You know, they may drop the price of the original package. who would pay $200 for the White Wii which comes with less than the Black Wii? Either they will drop that or remove it from shelves for a White model with the same packed in.

^Well that's business, a console generally runs at that price range. That is what people have shown a willingness to pay, so if you can find a way to produce them for cheaper, then that's money in your pocket. If you were in that spot you would do the same thing. Also if you think moves like that only apply to the Wii, you have a lot to learn.

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#14 halokillerz
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the original wii package is like only $10 cheaper. theres also already a white wii bundle thats the same as the black one.

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The Wii was never 300 it was always 250, therefore in all of 3 (more like 3.5 now) years nintendo has only dropped their price ONCE (50 bucks), which is absolutely pathetic and uneccessary. There is NO WAY the Wii costs 200 to manufacture. i bet they make a killing on Wii's :P. Seriously I know its a business and all, but it sucks to know that just because they are doing well this gen, they are taking money form blind consumers. If the Wii was cheaper i MIGHT buy one as well.

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The Wii may have never had a MSRP beyond $250 USD, but because of the high demand of the system, there were some stores that raised the price on the systems. Heck, I had to pay $275 for one well after one year the console was released, and guess what? It's been worth the additional investment. :P

Of course, Nintendo's selling the Wii at a pretty significant profit, but it wouldn't be that way if people didn't want one. To say that Nintendo is "taking money from blind consumers" is a very crude way of looking at the situation; if people had no desire to buy a Wii at its asking price, it wouldn't sell. Consumers aren't worried about how much it costs to make the system, but how much enjoyment they will get out of their purchase, and that's all that really matters. Nintendo's business and price-structuring model with the Wii is no different than that of any other successful, high demand product out there, and to do otherwise would just be dumb on the company's part.

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#16 Sepewrath
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No i mean they may drop the price for real, there is like an extra $50 bucks worth of stuff with the Black. I expect the original White Wii will be pulled from the shelf and the ones left will be sold for a lot less. Maybe you should just wait for that. I don't know where you saw that 10 bucks less thing, but there hasn't been any formal change in pricing, so if you really want to wait, I would wait for that.
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

The Wii was never 300 it was always 250, therefore in all of 3 (more like 3.5 now) years nintendo has only dropped their price ONCE (50 bucks), which is absolutely pathetic and uneccessary. There is NO WAY the Wii costs 200 to manufacture. i bet they make a killing on Wii's :P. Seriously I know its a business and all, but it sucks to know that just because they are doing well this gen, they are taking money form blind consumers. If the Wii was cheaper i MIGHT buy one as well.

Madmangamer364

The Wii may have never had a MSRP beyond $250 USD, but because of the high demand of the system, there were some stores that raised the price on the systems. Heck, I had to pay $275 for one well after one year the console was released, and guess what? It's been worth the additional investment. :P

Of course, Nintendo's selling the Wii at a pretty significant profit, but it wouldn't be that way if people didn't want one. To say that Nintendo is "taking money from blind consumers" is a very crude way of looking at the situation; if people had no desire to buy a Wii at its asking price, it wouldn't sell. Consumers aren't worried about how much it costs to make the system, but how much enjoyment they will get out of their purchase, and that's all that really matters. Nintendo's business and price-structuring model with the Wii is no different than that of any other successful, high demand product out there, and to do otherwise would just be dumb on the company's part.

True, I bought my Wii (whe I owned one) off of ebay because I could not find them anyway. I ended up paying 320 or something.

That said, yes you are right that consumers pay what they feel they will get out of the console enjoyment wise and all. The thing is, Nintendo is almost running a monopoly due to their very niche audience and many people will buy it at the current price even though it simply is not worth that price. All I am saying is both Sony and Microsoft are breaking even or losing (I think MS is about even not sure though) on every console, while Nintendo is rolling in the dough over here :P. I thought the whole price point thing was the Wii's pro. Well that is quickly fading IMO.

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That said, yes you are right that consumers pay what they feel they will get out of the console enjoyment wise and all. The thing is, Nintendo is almost running a monopoly due to their very niche audience and many people will buy it at the current price even though it simply is not worth that price. All I am saying is both Sony and Microsoft are breaking even or losing (I think MS is about even not sure though) on every console, while Nintendo is rolling in the dough over here :P. I thought the whole price point thing was the Wii's pro. Well that is quickly fading IMO.

NaveedLife

"Very niche" audience? You don't create a product as successful as the Wii with anything niche, but rather something that appeals to a broad group of people, and that's not something that happens if said product is perceived as overpriced. It's fine if you think the Wii isn't worth the asking price, but your opinion only applies to your expectations. Anyone can say the same thing about any other product on this planet, but if it's selling well, it means very little to the general public.

Sony and Microsoft chose to invest into systems where they would initially HAVE to lose money in order to establish userbase on those systems. They don't deserve medals or anything for doing so, however, especially when those systems still launched at up to $600, which is still a lot to ask for an average person to pay for what most will still see as a video game system. That's not a business approach Nintendo could handle to begin with, so it went with a more coporate AND consumer-friendly price structure, and was successful with it. Still, if people were more interested in paying the asking price for the HD systems than the Wii at launched, Nintendo wouldn't be in this favorable position.

As far as pricing goes, it's not the Wii's only advantage. Keep in mind that the Xbox 360 Arcade model has had a competitive and even lower price point than the Wii at times, and it has done nothing the halt the system's momentum to this point. I've said it before, and I'll say it again; at this point, the Wii sells because it's the Wii and only the Wii is the Wii.

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#19 Sepewrath
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^Very true, "overpriced" is simply a matter of personal perception. I would never pay $600 bucks for a phone, but millions of people have. And do you think it really cost $600 bucks to make those phones? Sony and MS went for the high end machine selling a lot to recuperate initial loss routine, it has never worked in the past, every console maker to try has fallen flat on their face and unsurprisingly it happened again. Though they should be proud, because of the more mainstream audience in gaming, they did much better than the likes 3DO and Neo Geo which were colossal failures. And you cant really try to applaud Sony for not selling their console for $900, your insane. Because if they were crazy of enough to think they could get away with it, they would have done it, without hesitation. They were arrogant, but not crazy.
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#20 BARAKiU
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an official price drop might come at this time next year.

holiday this year you'll probably see some deals that make it 50 dollars cheaper or give you 50 dollar value for no extra cost.

as forright now there's the used market, you might nab one 50 dollars cheaper.

i expect a new console to be rumored for announcement starting next year, with an actual release holiday 2012.

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#21 Link9n17
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Not really. But now Nintendo is also bundleing (is that a word - bundleing?) wii Sports Resort with wii consoles now which by the way is a super great party game. So in a sense it is only $150 for the console, so no price drop, just a better deal, sorry. :(

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#22 LegatoSkyheart
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Dude you get Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort with Motion Plus (a $60 value btw) now.

I think $200 works.

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#23 halokillerz
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lol i like the motion plus thing i guess, but if i had to option of not gettin wii sports resort for cheaper, i prolly would take it. Anyways ill just pick up the black one.

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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

That said, yes you are right that consumers pay what they feel they will get out of the console enjoyment wise and all. The thing is, Nintendo is almost running a monopoly due to their very niche audience and many people will buy it at the current price even though it simply is not worth that price. All I am saying is both Sony and Microsoft are breaking even or losing (I think MS is about even not sure though) on every console, while Nintendo is rolling in the dough over here :P. I thought the whole price point thing was the Wii's pro. Well that is quickly fading IMO.

Madmangamer364

"Very niche" audience? You don't create a product as successful as the Wii with anything niche, but rather something that appeals to a broad group of people, and that's not something that happens if said product is perceived as overpriced. It's fine if you think the Wii isn't worth the asking price, but your opinion only applies to your expectations. Anyone can say the same thing about any other product on this planet, but if it's selling well, it means very little to the general public.

Sony and Microsoft chose to invest into systems where they would initially HAVE to lose money in order to establish userbase on those systems. They don't deserve medals or anything for doing so, however, especially when those systems still launched at up to $600, which is still a lot to ask for an average person to pay for what most will still see as a video game system. That's not a business approach Nintendo could handle to begin with, so it went with a more coporate AND consumer-friendly price structure, and was successful with it. Still, if people were more interested in paying the asking price for the HD systems than the Wii at launched, Nintendo wouldn't be in this favorable position.

As far as pricing goes, it's not the Wii's only advantage. Keep in mind that the Xbox 360 Arcade model has had a competitive and even lower price point than the Wii at times, and it has done nothing the halt the system's momentum to this point. I've said it before, and I'll say it again; at this point, the Wii sells because it's the Wii and only the Wii is the Wii.

The general public is not the smartest bunch out there :P. And its not about what I htink, its about what is inside the machine and what we are paying versus what they are paying to make it. I am not saying it does not happen with other products, but usually consoles are a break even or lose money on the hardware deal. It does not matter, I just think Nintendo is milking the casual players for something their product simply is not worth.

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#25 NaveedLife
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Dude you get Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort with Motion Plus (a $60 value btw) now.

I think $200 works.

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That is true. it is a good bundle INDEED! So this is a good argument to what I was saying all along. ;)

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The general public is not the smartest bunch out there :P. And its not about what I htink, its about what is inside the machine and what we are paying versus what they are paying to make it. I am not saying it does not happen with other products, but usually consoles are a break even or lose money on the hardware deal. It does not matter, I just think Nintendo is milking the casual players for something their product simply is not worth.

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I think the general public are smart enough to know what they like and don't like. We're talking about a video game system here, not a necessary, everyday product that people have to invest in, so those that are buying a Wii are probably doing so because it has something that appeals to them, much like you or I. Beyond that, who cares how intelligent these people might be, and who are we, part of that general public, to question their intelligence?

You're the one claiming that the Wii is overpriced, so it has to be about what you think, as opposed as to what the Wii's value is actually worth. To most of the rest of the world, it's worth the MSRP of $200 at the moment, since that's what it's selling successfully for. What's inside the system is irrelevant, since it's apparently enough to get people to buy the thing by the truckload. Determining a system's worth on hardware specs alone isn't the most accurate way of judging how much that system should sell for.

Nintendo typically sells its systems for a profit. As a company where it's only source of revenue is in the video game industry, that's by far the most logical way of going about producing systems. Even so, if people really felt that this was a major issue, they wouldn't put their hard-earned money into the Wii. What you THINK and what IT IS in this circumstance aren't the same; the Wii is a very appealing system, consumers are responding to it, and Nintendo can keep the price the same because of it. It's simple principles of supply and demand, and as along as the demand is there, that's what the system is worth.

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#27 BARAKiU
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wouldn'tcha know, just yesterday -

Nintendo Wii On Sale For $149.99

http://www.ironstarmovement.com/profiles/blogs/nintendo-wii-on-sale-for-14999

no Wii Sports Resort or Wii Motion Plus,

but may'be you can getM+ with Zelda later.

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#28 vgamefreak225
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I got my Wii when it was like $200 and when it still came with a nunchuk, Wii console, Wii Sports, and remote. I think though that the price on the Wii will come down sometime this summer.

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Dude you get Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort with Motion Plus (a $60 value btw) now.

I think $200 works.

NaveedLife

That is true. it is a good bundle INDEED! So this is a good argument to what I was saying all along. ;)

You are correct that the hardware inside of wii's are not worth the price tag. It is decade old technology, but the fact of the matter is, the other two systems at one time were much more.

When the 360 launched it was $400 and it did not really show off anything at all. Most games within it's first year were Xbox 1 quality. When PS3 first came out it was $600 and with hardly any games or features. Nintendo had Zelda which is a game everyone is already accustomed to. Wii sports seemed cool because it was almost like actually playing sports for real. Obviously no one thinks this about wii sports now, but at the time people thought it was awesome. Monkey Ball and Wario Ware showed off the Wii's technical abilities. The Wii may be over priced, but it is still the cheapest system to buy and the games are $10 cheaper brand new and go down in price faster than the games on other platforms. When you have a family and can't really afford a lot, then it's obvious you are going to choose Wii over the others. A lot people bought wii not really for the games aspect but just for being active. A lot people don't care how long a game is, or unlockables, or anything like that. Because of games like Wii fit, the Wii is sold in places where gaming devices would not be sold at all.

It's because of the Wii's cheaper price and motion controls that made it number 1 in sales even if over half the time the controls are not that awesome. Powerhouse systems rarely win the console war. Master system had better hardware than NES but NES still won because it had more games. The only exception to this is the 16 bit Era. SNES had better hardware and it sold more because it had more games. PS1 had weaker hardware to the N64 and for the first couple of years, a lot games played like SNES ones but it sold better because it had more games and the games were a lot cheaper in price.

The Wii has more games than the other systems and the system is cheap so people will buy that system over another. Even if a lot the games on it are shovleware, people will still buy the system that has more games despite all systems having equal number of quality games across the board.

The Wii is overpriced but it's cheaper than the rest.