Would you like a Super Mario 64 2 for the Wii U?

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#1 nameless12345
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As in a true sequel to Super Mario 64?

I sure would.

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#2 Renegade_Fury
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No, I rather have a Galaxy 3 or something new than another Mario 64. I'm not even sure what a Mario 64 2 would be except for just a bunch of big maps to dump you in, which I don't really consider as a fun concept.

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#3 Pikminmaniac
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Absolutely not. Mario 64 was a terrible direction for the series IMO. The 2D marios and the Galaxy games do it right

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#4 snes_vs_ps1
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No

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#5 nameless12345
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Absolutely not. Mario 64 was a terrible direction for the series IMO. The 2D marios and the Galaxy games do it right

Pikminmaniac

I think the Galaxy games are actually a step backwards and more limited. There is not even a real hub world in SMG 2. I'll agree the 2D games were the best but platformers have evolved since then.

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#6 yellonet
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

Absolutely not. Mario 64 was a terrible direction for the series IMO. The 2D marios and the Galaxy games do it right

nameless12345

I think the Galaxy games are actually a step backwards and more limited. There is not even a real hub world in SMG 2. I'll agree the 2D games were the best but platformers have evolved since then.

Agreed. To me, SM64 is still the best 3D Mario game, the galaxy games just have too linear levels for my taste.
I liked the concept of having a few ways known how to get stars (red coins, regular coins) and then the special level unique ways, and that you had the freedom to do it in pretty much the order you wanted.
No, the overall freedom and joy of exploration of SM64 beats anything since.

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#7 waldo6
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I prefer Galaxy 3 for WiiU and Mario 64 2 for 3ds

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#8 AvatarMan96
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We already have Mario 64 DS, we don't need anymore Mario 64. I really don't even think we need anymore Galaxy

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#9 ryguy64
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I liked the more open world feel of Mario 64. Galaxy 1 and 2 were fun, but didn't really feel like there was much to explore. However, I would probably buy and play either one. I would like something new, but I don't know where they would go.

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#10 AvatarMan96
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I liked the more open world feel of Mario 64.ryguy64
Oh yes, I liked that about Mario Sunshine too
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#11 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

Absolutely not. Mario 64 was a terrible direction for the series IMO. The 2D marios and the Galaxy games do it right

nameless12345

I think the Galaxy games are actually a step backwards and more limited. There is not even a real hub world in SMG 2. I'll agree the 2D games were the best but platformers have evolved since then.

IMO platformers are best when they are straight forward and well designed point A to point B obstacle coarses where challenge is derived from making it to the end alive with sheer platforming skill rather than figuring out what to do in a loosely designed open world.

The only 3D platformers that did it the way I liked it were Rayman 2, and the Galaxy games

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#12 x-2tha-z
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I'd like the next Mario game to be a mission based, open-world game. Like GTA, only with less hookers. You'd get around on a Kart, obviously.
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#13 funsohng
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No, I want something new....
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#14 Rocky32189
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No. In my opinion, Mario 64 is the worst of the main Mario platformers. It was a complete step in the wrong direction. The galaxy games brought Mario closer to his roots.
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#15 Sepewrath
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I think the Galaxy games are actually a step backwards and more limited. There is not even a real hub world in SMG 2. I'll agree the 2D games were the best but platformers have evolved since then.

nameless12345
Platformers actually hasn't changed, Galaxy is far more in line with the rare modern platformer than Mario 64 is. I would rather something like Galaxy with a focus on platforming over exploration. But I wouldn't turn down a Mario 64 like experience, I had and still do have a blast with that game.
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#16 Guovssohas
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Yes! Mario64 is my all time favorite game, it really was a jawdropping experience at that time. I like the more open world style where all the stars are in the levels at once and you can basically grab the stars in any order you want. It means more of an adventure styled game. The Galaxys are A to B, and it clearly films the path/where to go before each stage or mission. IMO the 2D games are perfect for the A B style, 3D Marios should be in the Mario64 style.
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#17 Lach0121
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To be fair, We have not played any of the Galaxies yet... But we will once we get a WiiU..

That being said, I love Super Mario 64. I would love another Mario game in its Vein. That would be fantastic. Why couldn't they do both a Galaxy 3 (U) and that other Mario "64 like" project...

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#18 pierst179
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I would prefer something original. Different from Mario 64, Galaxy and all other Mario games.

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#19 Sepewrath
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Those are two very large, very different projects. I don't know how much manpower EAD has to be able to pull that off, don't forget they share personnel among the different teams. To take on both of those would take people from other teams.
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#20 LaytonsCat
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The whole idea behind SM64 is exploringa 3D world for the first time ever, a sequel wouldn't be that good

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#21 wiifan001
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Another 64 bit title on an HD console? Yeah, no :P
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#22 bub166
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If you are asking if I want the next 3D Mario to be 64-bit on an HD platform, not really. But a game in the same vein as Super Mario 64, without any gimmicks like F.L.U.D.D. or gravitational pulls, then yes, that would be cool. I like Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy a lot, maybe more than SM64, but I'd like them to just do a standard Mario adventure in 3D again. Although, that's what the new 3DS game looks like. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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#23 painguy1
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How about something original?

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#24 painguy1
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If you are asking if I want the next 3D Mario to be 64-bit on an HD platform, not really. But a game in the same vein as Super Mario 64, without any gimmicks like F.L.U.D.D. or gravitational pulls, then yes, that would be cool. I like Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy a lot, maybe more than SM64, but I'd like them to just do a standard Mario adventure in 3D again. Although, that's what the new 3DS game looks like. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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....rly bro? since when are gameplay mechanics gimmicks? i swear george lopez i dont get this place sometimes

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#25 Sepewrath
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How about something original?

painguy1
People say that, but what would you consider original, just another gimmick tied to standard platformer mechanics? As long as it has some great new stages, new power ups, that original enough for me. If they toss in a new gimmick, fine. But even if it was standard Mario like the 3DS game, I would be more than happy with that. lol I just saw your second post when I was about to hit submit. Your thinking of the word "gimmick" as a negative denotation, because so many not so bright individuals have tried to use it like that in the past few years. But a gimmick only indicates a selling point, something that separates it from the pack. Yes the gravity mechanic was a gimmick, same as the movie like presentation in Uncharted is a gimmick or the Batman license in the Arkham series is a gimmick. Its not a bad thing to have a gimmick, everything has a gimmick. Well not the FPS genre, but everything else :P
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#26 pikaby
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If you are asking if I want the next 3D Mario to be 64-bit on an HD platform, not really. But a game in the same vein as Super Mario 64, without any gimmicks like F.L.U.D.D. or gravitational pulls, then yes, that would be cool. I like Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy a lot, maybe more than SM64, but I'd like them to just do a standard Mario adventure in 3D again. Although, that's what the new 3DS game looks like. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

bub166

Define 'standard'. Has the fandom really reached such a point where there should be a 'standard' to how Mario games should be made and played in a certain restricted format, then only we can enjoy it? Is Mario 64 the only 'normal' game while the rest of them are just deviants that can't be considered 'true' Mario games?

I don't know, but I'd rather Mario games be unique and varied than everything following a similar, formulaic 'standard' until I get sick of it.

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#27 Sepewrath
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I think they mean a focus on platforming vs a focus on exploration.
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#28 painguy1
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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

How about something original?

Sepewrath

People say that, but what would you consider original, just another gimmick tied to standard platformer mechanics? As long as it has some great new stages, new power ups, that original enough for me. If they toss in a new gimmick, fine. But even if it was standard Mario like the 3DS game, I would be more than happy with that. lol I just saw your second post when I was about to hit submit. Your thinking of the word "gimmick" as a negative denotation, because so many not so bright individuals have tried to use it like that in the past few years. But a gimmick only indicates a selling point, something that separates it from the pack. Yes the gravity mechanic was a gimmick, same as the movie like presentation in Uncharted is a gimmick or the Batman license in the Arkham series is a gimmick. Its not a bad thing to have a gimmick, everything has a gimmick. Well not the FPS genre, but everything else :P

haha oh thts a coincidence:P Im aware tht there is multiple ways to use the word, but I cannot agree with the notion that gameplay mechanics are gimmicks.(thts right, im different what u gonna do? 8) )Every game has a theme tht designers mold their gameplay around. My ideal definition of a gimmick is something that doesn't add tht much to the experience. It could be a good thing or a bad thing, but because its not tht important it doesn't motivate the theme of the game. If SMG didn't have all tht physics mumbo jumbo in the game then it would be a completely different game. thts how i see it anyway.

"...without anygimmickslike F.L.U.D.D. or gravitational pulls..." To me it seems as if he's implying tht those gameplay mechanics are bad & should be removed which is why I am making the assumption tht he's using it as a negative term. hope tht makes sense as to why im taking it the bad way

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#29 Sepewrath
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Fair enough, but I do look at game mechanics as a gimmick, though for mechanics is generally called a games "Hook" And yes the Hook does both define the game and in doing so, separate it from the rest of the games out there.
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#30 MangaPicture
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No, but I certainly want 3D platformers in the same vein back. I need something like Banjo back, or at least bring Rayman 4 :( They should keep doing their own thing with Mario meanwhile.

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#31 Jelley0
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The Mario Galaxy games were boring because I had to go where the game made me. It makes replaying levels very boring, and they aren't even too much fun the first time. I would be much happier to see a Mario 64 type game.

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#32 so_hai
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If we have to. But it seems like an old idea for such new hardware. It would be like requesting SMB3 for the N64.
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#33 JuarN18
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No, but I certainly want 3D platformers in the same vein back. I need something like Banjo back, or at least bring Rayman 4 :( They should keep doing their own thing with Mario meanwhile.

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I agree, in the N64 days Rare made better mario64-like games than nintendo

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#34 Half-Way
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i honestly dont even care

Mario for the 3DS looks like it could be the best mario game ever made. I combines the elements from the 2 best mario games (Galaxy and SMB3)

so i cant even start thinking about a WiiU mario before the release of Mario3DS

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#35 HeavyMetalKirby
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No, I rather have a Galaxy 3 or something new than another Mario 64. I'm not even sure what a Mario 64 2 would be except for just a bunch of big maps to dump you in, which I don't really consider as a fun concept.

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Are you kidding? i love the huge maps in mario 64. mario galaxy maps just felt way to small and limited.

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#36 TheFallenDemon
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I would like the next Mario to be a mix of Galaxy, Sunshine, Devil May Cry, and GTA.
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#37 Renegade_Fury
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

No, I rather have a Galaxy 3 or something new than another Mario 64. I'm not even sure what a Mario 64 2 would be except for just a bunch of big maps to dump you in, which I don't really consider as a fun concept.

HeavyMetalKirby

Are you kidding? i love the huge maps in mario 64. mario galaxy maps just felt way to small and limited.

No, I'm definitely not. I greatly preferred the Galaxy games' linear design, because they played like old school platformers. You can throw in multiple paths, but platformers should be about actual platforming, levels, and providing a challenge to finish. Give those big maps and needless hub worlds to franchises like Banjo, because I don't believe dumping the player in the middle of nowhere and collecting coins are fun.

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#38 GreySeal9
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The only way I'd take a Super Mario 64 sequel is if it had the castle setting, but played like Galaxy.

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#39 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

Absolutely not. Mario 64 was a terrible direction for the series IMO. The 2D marios and the Galaxy games do it right

nameless12345

I think the Galaxy games are actually a step backwards and more limited. There is not even a real hub world in SMG 2. I'll agree the 2D games were the best but platformers have evolved since then.

I don't see how the Galaxy games are a step back. Actually, that doesn't even make sense to me.

First of all, the controls in Galaxy are so much better to the point where Mario 64's controls actually feel slightly janky now.

Secondly, the level designs in Galaxy and much more creative and clever. Sure, they are much more linear, but they have far more imagination and variety whereas Mario 64's levels feel bigger, but more basic. Mario 64 really does feel like a first foray into 3D where they couldn't really get all that creative because they were trying to make it all work on a 3D plain. Galaxy feels like Nintendo has fully mastered the 3D gamespace and can be as creative as they want.

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#40 Xenoman99
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NO! I want Super Mario Sunshine 2!
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#41 turtlethetaffer
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I'd rather have Mario Galaxy 3, but I would not say no to Mario 64 2.

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#42 KnightSkull
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I loved Mario 64 and wouldn't say no to a new game like it, the same goes for the Galaxy games. So how about a Mario 64 2 and a Galaxy 3? It's win, win.
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#43 AwesomeKenny
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I'm happy with a new Mario game either way. I wouldn't mind a SM64 2 or a SMG3 ^_^
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#44 riou7  Moderator
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Nah, I want an entirely new Mario game for the Wii U. No Super Mario 64 2 or SMG 3.

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#45 Demonjoe93
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Nah, they need to leave Super Mario 64 alone now.

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#46 Lach0121
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Well they have Super Mario Bros.

Super Mario World.

Super Mario Galaxy.

Makes sense the next will be Super Mario Universe!

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#47 Jurassic85
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When I played through SMG2 I had an awesome time, but the thought of playing another Mario game like that has me burned out. I don't really like the suits that they provide Mario with in these games, I feel like SMB3 got it perfect though. How exactly would the make a Mario 64 2? Even though Mario only comes out every couple years it has the potential to become like CoD or Madden unless they do something vastly original with the next installment.
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#48 meetroid8
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If it would mean large open levels and a fleshed out hub world I would be all for it. Galaxy was too claustrophobic.
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#49 gamenerd15
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I would rather have the big worlds of Mario 64 back. If Nintendo wants to do a linear Mario, then the company should just do a 2D Mario game. I actually want Nintendo to try different direction with the franchises that the company has. Mario Sunshine brought a completely new setting to Mario, and that is what made the game special. There was no fire world, ice world, or water world. I like the new creatures Sunshine had. Those guys that flipped you up in the air were cool. It would be cool if Nintendo put Mario in a completely different setting than what we are used to.

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#50 pills4louis
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Sunshine and both Galaxy games were essentially Mario 64 2, 3, and 4. Didn't really enjoy any of them, I wish they'd just stick to side-scrolling Mario. New SMB Wii was the first Mario game I've enjoyed since Yoshi's Island.