Would you put the 3DS's power near the gamecube?

I think the 3DS has the power that is toward the gamecube, and believe this could greatly benefit Nintendo and fans. Let's have proper Wind Waker sequels instead of Hourglass and Spirit Tracks, with similar gameplay mechanics to Widwaker. -Maybe if they do a game in that timeline Let's have more #D portable Mario goodness like 3D land. - Mhm,SM3DL2! Let's make proper portable F-zero games, that's a series that can be great for on the go. -An F-ZERO game with better graphics than GX,and new stuff,yeaaaaahStaticOnTV

And yeah,it's around GC power.

from what i have seen... no, its not even close to gamecube power. gamecube put out games like Resident Evil 4. Resident Evil Revelations isnt even close to the graphical quality of that game..... so i have to say no. it is somewhere between the N64 and the gamecube.... closer to the gamecube. with all that being said, i dont understand why nintendo continues to put mediocre hardware in their systems.... if you look at the vita, it is damn near as powerful as a PS3. with nintendo's ability to get games on their handhelds, and a system with that kind of power.... just think of the games we could have.Kaisfate

Not even close? It surpasses it... The scale is not the same but when it comes to textures, effects and lighting it surpasses it. RE 4 is the better game though.

with all that being said, i dont understand why nintendo continues to put mediocre hardware in their systems.... if you look at the vita, it is damn near as powerful as a PS3. with nintendo's ability to get games on their handhelds, and a system with that kind of power.... just think of the games we could have.Kaisfate

It's more or less on par.

I heard it can't output the same number of ploygons but it has better shaders than the Wii.

I would Love to See Super Mario Sunshine make its way onto the 3DS

Yes, in many ways like textures, lighting, and shaders it's better than the Gamecube.

However it can't do as many polys and runs at a lower resolution.

Having seen quite a few threads on this on over websites, its probably best for you to research this for yourself than ask here. Good places to start are GBAtemp & neogaf had a pretty good thread on it.

Ultimately though it kinda depends what components you're looking at. I mean the 3DS has more RAM than the Wii and supports modern shaders in it's GPU. But it's screen resolution is far lower even factoring in 3D. Truth be told, it's a tough comparison, and although I personally think it's weaker than the gamecube in at least some areas, you're best off doing your own research as even I'm nopt exactly sure where to place it in terms of power.

I have a hard time believing the 3DS has the power of the Gamecube and could handle a game like Super Smash Bros. Melee on it but you never know I guess.

I would Love to See Super Mario Sunshine make its way onto the 3DS

RiKanKiDD

I have a hard time believing the 3DS has the power of the Gamecube and could handle a game like Super Smash Bros. Melee on it but you never know I guess.

darksongbird

I have a hard time believing the 3DS has the power of the Gamecube and could handle a game like Super Smash Bros. Melee on it but you never know I guess.

darksongbird

Yes, in many ways like textures, lighting, and shaders it's better than the Gamecube.

However it can't do as many polys and runs at a lower resolution.

scottahuch

This is pretty much what I think. The low poly count is definitely the weak link of the 3DS hardware. They can make up for it with shaders to a certain extent, but I don't think we'll ever see graphics as detailed as Rogue Squadron III on the 3DS.

No, not even close. You also have to consider the small size of a 3DS screen compared to a TV.rubber-chicken

[QUOTE="Kaisfate"]from what i have seen... no, its not even close to gamecube power. gamecube put out games like Resident Evil 4. Resident Evil Revelations isnt even close to the graphical quality of that game..... so i have to say no. it is somewhere between the N64 and the gamecube.... closer to the gamecube. with all that being said, i dont understand why nintendo continues to put mediocre hardware in their systems.... if you look at the vita, it is damn near as powerful as a PS3. with nintendo's ability to get games on their handhelds, and a system with that kind of power.... just think of the games we could have.Epak_

Not even close? It surpasses it... The scale is not the same but when it comes to textures, effects and lighting it surpasses it. RE 4 is the better game though.

RE:R is abit exaggerated.,graphically.

But yea,ofcourse it's around GameCube power!

Duh!

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[QUOTE="Kaisfate"]from what i have seen... no, its not even close to gamecube power. gamecube put out games like Resident Evil 4. Resident Evil Revelations isnt even close to the graphical quality of that game..... so i have to say no. it is somewhere between the N64 and the gamecube.... closer to the gamecube. with all that being said, i dont understand why nintendo continues to put mediocre hardware in their systems.... if you look at the vita, it is damn near as powerful as a PS3. with nintendo's ability to get games on their handhelds, and a system with that kind of power.... just think of the games we could have.Kaisfate

Not even close? It surpasses it... The scale is not the same but when it comes to textures, effects and lighting it surpasses it. RE 4 is the better game though.

Way worse huh? Are you playing a modded PC version or something? Even that doesn't use normal mapped textures.

[QUOTE="Kaisfate"][QUOTE="Epak_"]

Not even close? It surpasses it... The scale is not the same but when it comes to textures, effects and lighting it surpasses it. RE 4 is the better game though.

Epak_

Way worse huh? Are you playing a modded PC version or something? Even that doesn't use normal mapped textures.

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[QUOTE="Kaisfate"] LOL wut? no it doesnt. the textures, jaggies, and environments are WAY worse than RE4. character models are about on par, but everything else is far below RE4 graphical quality.Kaisfate

Way worse huh? Are you playing a modded PC version or something? Even that doesn't use normal mapped textures.

Well now I know you're just blowing smoke outta your ass. The GC version of Re4 is also a jag fest btw.

I actually think is above the GC. If you compare MGS:TS with MGS:SE3D, I see a lot of improvement in the 3DS one. Also, RE:R looks way better than RE4. So, IMO, the "general" performance and capabilities are above the GC. If Factor 5 could make a new Rogue Leader for the 3DS that could be a great benchmark! :Denrique_marrodz

I doubt it can handle that much.

[QUOTE="Kaisfate"][QUOTE="Epak_"]

Way worse huh? Are you playing a modded PC version or something? Even that doesn't use normal mapped textures.

Epak_

Well now I know you're just blowing smoke outta your ass. The GC version of Re4 is also a jag fest btw.

no... it really isnt. apparently you need to go back and look at a late gen GC game.... they blow what is being shown currently on the 3DS out of the water. windwaker, zelda twilight princess, RE4.... all way better looking than anything on the 3DSKaisfate

This is actually true.

First time i agree with this user.

Get it on your head already guys.

The 3DS HASN'T reached the graphical quality of some of the best-looking games of the 6th gen.

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[QUOTE="Kaisfate"] yes way worse. the textures on everything except the characters are so low resolution it looks like they used watercolors. im pretty sure there were better textures on some PS1 games.... and lets not even mention the jaggies... omfg /eyesbleeding.Kaisfate

Well now I know you're just blowing smoke outta your ass. The GC version of Re4 is also a jag fest btw.

All those games lack the effects the 3DS is capable of. GC may beat it in polygons, but when it comes to effects (due to 3DS' more advanced GPU) 3DS wins AND it shows.

[QUOTE="Kaisfate"]no... it really isnt. apparently you need to go back and look at a late gen GC game.... they blow what is being shown currently on the 3DS out of the water. windwaker, zelda twilight princess, RE4.... all way better looking than anything on the 3DSGreekGameManiac

This is actually true.

First time i agree with this user.

Get it on your head already guys.

The 3DS HASN'T reached the graphical quality of some of the best-looking games of the 6th gen.

They are talking technical graphics though.StaticOnTV

Did i say the opposite?

No.

Same here,i'm talking about actual graphics,too.

[QUOTE="Kaisfate"][QUOTE="Epak_"]

Well now I know you're just blowing smoke outta your ass. The GC version of Re4 is also a jag fest btw.

Epak_

All those games lack the effects the 3DS is capable of. GC may beat it in polygons, but when it comes to effects (due to 3DS' more advanced GPU) 3DS wins AND it shows.

The 3DS is a portable GCN in terms of power.Rod90

[QUOTE="Epak_"]

[QUOTE="Kaisfate"] no... it really isnt. apparently you need to go back and look at a late gen GC game.... they blow what is being shown currently on the 3DS out of the water. windwaker, zelda twilight princess, RE4.... all way better looking than anything on the 3DSKaisfate

All those games lack the effects the 3DS is capable of. GC may beat it in polygons, but when it comes to effects (due to 3DS' more advanced GPU) 3DS wins AND it shows.

Revelations used normal mapped textures to such extent that GC/Wii games could only dream about them (a feature that most modern PC/console games use). That's why people started to compare it to x360/PS3 games. Hell Capcom didn't even bother to port their MT Framework engine to Wii because it didn't have the tech to support it, not even a stripped version the 3DS is using. Capcom demoed what the 3DS can do a couple of years ago: link

[QUOTE="Kaisfate"][QUOTE="Epak_"]

All those games lack the effects the 3DS is capable of. GC may beat it in polygons, but when it comes to effects (due to 3DS' more advanced GPU) 3DS wins AND it shows.

Epak_

Revelations used normal mapped textures to such extent that GC/Wii games could only dream about them (a feature that most modern PC/console games use). That's why people started to compare it to x360/PS3 games. Hell Capcom didn't even bother to port their MT Framework engine to Wii because it didn't have the tech to support it, not even a stripped version the 3DS is using. Capcom demoed what the 3DS can do a couple of years ago: link

like i said, capability talk is all fine, but until games actually show those capabilities, it is all talk. that and even if it is proven the 3DS is capable of advanced graphics, unless devs make use of it, it really doesnt matter. so far devs dont seem interested in making graphically impressive games on the 3DS.

now if 3DS games looked like this all the time:

i would be more than happy. they dont though. and they wont because the hardware just isnt there. i guess i just need to accept that 3DS games are never going to be visually impressive, and rely on my VITA for that. Cant wait for monster hunter 4 though. i think if any game has a chance of looking really good on the 3DS, its that game.

There. I don't know why you keep ignoring Capcom and RE.

Off screen goodness.

Edit: Moarrr pictures.

Edit2: RE 4. It's pretty hard to find good pictures of the Wii/GC version. Post some if you have 'em, but no HD remake versions please. I also realize that those Revelations shots have been smoothed out. 

Cant wait for monster hunter 4 though. i think if any game has a chance of looking really good on the 3DS, its that game.Kaisfate

Also, RE:R looks way better than RE4. enrique_marrodz

Yes the 3DS is kinda like a Portable Gamecube. It will be interesting to see how well the 3DS handles the port of Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D. So far Star Fox 64 and Legend of Zelda Orinca of Time have been re-released on the 3DS. Enhanced ports for N64.

I wish that they would also release the first Luigi's Mansion in 3D on the 3DS. As the game was actually designed to be in 3D. So yes the 3DS could be equal in "power" to a Gamecube.

Those screens are bs,Epak.

Not good quality,and screenshots prove nothing if there isn't a huge difference between two games.

Ppl need to stop exaggerating about RE:R.

Those screens are bs,Epak.

Not good quality,and screenshots prove nothing if there isn't a huge difference between two games.

Ppl need to stop exaggerating about RE:R.

GreekGameManiac

Find me better ones then please. I find it laughable when people complain 'bout jaggies on Revelations when Re 4 was riddled with jagged edges. Don't know if they had to actually drop the resolution a bit to get it running smoothly, I know those black borders are there for a reason. RE4 is my all time favourite game, I'm quite familiar how it looks.

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

Those screens are bs,Epak.

Not good quality,and screenshots prove nothing if there isn't a huge difference between two games.

Ppl need to stop exaggerating about RE:R.

Epak_

Find me better ones then please. I find it laughable when people complain 'bout jaggies on Revelations when Re 4 was riddled with jagged edges. Don't know if they had to actually drop the resolution a bit to get it running smoothly, I know those black borders are there for a reason. RE4 is my all time favourite game, I'm quite familiar how it looks.

[QUOTE="Epak_"]

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

Those screens are bs,Epak.

Not good quality,and screenshots prove nothing if there isn't a huge difference between two games.

Ppl need to stop exaggerating about RE:R.

Heirren

Find me better ones then please. I find it laughable when people complain 'bout jaggies on Revelations when Re 4 was riddled with jagged edges. Don't know if they had to actually drop the resolution a bit to get it running smoothly, I know those black borders are there for a reason. RE4 is my all time favourite game, I'm quite familiar how it looks.

I'm aware of that. 

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Epak_"]

Find me better ones then please. I find it laughable when people complain 'bout jaggies on Revelations when Re 4 was riddled with jagged edges. Don't know if they had to actually drop the resolution a bit to get it running smoothly, I know those black borders are there for a reason. RE4 is my all time favourite game, I'm quite familiar how it looks.

Epak_

I'm aware of that.