Wouldn't it be great if Nintendo put the same effort into other IPs?

Pokemon is the only franchise they have that's number one in it's genre

I don't know where you're coming up with Mario and Zelda being the good ones anymore

Pokemon is the only franchise they have that's number one in it's genre

I don't know where you're coming up with Mario and Zelda being the good ones anymore

More people need to try the Pikmin games. Especially Pikmin 2. There is just as much quality put into Pikmin 2 as there is put into Mario or Zelda. Actually I would argue more. There is more content in Pikmin 2 than there is in Super Smash Bros Melee in fact. Lengthy campaign that should take around 40 hours to complete 100%, Treasure catalogue to look at and read up on all of the 201 treasures, Piklopedia to look at and read up on the many enemies and bosses you have encounterd, Challenge mode to test your skills (30 challenges in total with high scores and you acheive a purple flower ranking if you complete a challenge without loosing a single Pikmin), There is also unlockable cinematics, and multiplayer battle and co-op modes! Not to mention that there is NO game even remotely like Pikmin. It is 100% unique!

P.S. I have collected all 201 treasures and received purple flowers on all 30 challenges as well as mastered the addicting multiplayer battle mode. I WANT MORE!

Pokemon is the only franchise they have that's number one in it's genre

I don't know where you're coming up with Mario and Zelda being the good ones anymore

Jaysonguy

and legend of zelda OoT is still the second best action advanture game outhere. right after Okami,

opinions are fun =)

More people need to try the Pikmin games. Especially Pikmin 2. There is just as much quality put into Pikmin 2 as there is put into Mario or Zelda. Actually I would argue more. There is more content in Pikmin 2 than there is in Super Smash Bros Melee in fact. Lengthy campaign that should take around 40 hours to complete 100%, Treasure catalogue to look at and read up on all of the 201 treasures, Piklopedia to look at and read up on the many enemies and bosses you have encounterd, Challenge mode to test your skills (30 challenges in total with high scores and you acheive a purple flower ranking if you complete a challenge without loosing a single Pikmin), There is also unlockable cinematics, and multiplayer battle and co-op modes! Not to mention that there is NO game even remotely like Pikmin. It is 100% unique!

P.S. I have collected all 201 treasures and received purple flowers on all 30 challenges as well as mastered the addicting multiplayer battle mode. I WANT MORE!

Pikminmaniac

totally agree with this. pikmin is a great series that needs to be put on the same level as mario and zelda. it is great and i can't wait for pikmin 3. it prob. will get the popularity eventually though. it's just that mario and zelda have had longer to grow their fan base.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Pokemon is the only franchise they have that's number one in it's genre

I don't know where you're coming up with Mario and Zelda being the good ones anymore

DeadEndPanda

and legend of zelda OoT is still the second best action advanture game outhere. right after Okami,

opinions are fun =)

What are you talking about the NES and N64 for?

Yeah 1985 and 1998, if you hadn't noticed it's 2009. Times have changed

Right now, today, the best thing Nintendo does is Pokemon because they own that genre.

No one cares about what they used to do

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Pokemon is the only franchise they have that's number one in it's genre

I don't know where you're coming up with Mario and Zelda being the good ones anymore

DeadEndPanda

and legend of zelda OoT is still the second best action advanture game outhere. right after Okami,

opinions are fun =)

Many, many platformers are better than the original maro bros. The original mario bros is one of the weakest in the series.

F-Zero was pawned off on SEGA (dear God),.TheLordMagnus

[QUOTE="TheLordMagnus"] F-Zero was pawned off on SEGA (dear God),.redban2

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Pokemon is the only franchise they have that's number one in it's genre

I don't know where you're coming up with Mario and Zelda being the good ones anymore

DeadEndPanda

and legend of zelda OoT is still the second best action advanture game outhere. right after Okami,

opinions are fun =)

I think you're being a bit unfair when saying that Nintendo doesn't put comparable effort into all of its IPs and just trying to prove your info on sales numbers alone. The reason Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda sells more than franchises like Donkey Kong or StarFox is simply a matter of them being games that appeal to more people. Let's compare Super Mario Galaxy and Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat, shall we? Both games were developed by Nintendo's EAD team, and both games have been considered to be innovative platformers by a lot of people. The biggest difference between the two I've seen is that SMG sold a heck of a lot more than DK:JB did. That's not to say that one was cared about more than the other. I personally thought that F-Zero GX for the GameCube was awesome, and the DS has seen three solid Kirby titles, including Kirby Superstar Ultra, which I would recommend to anyone reading this that has a DS. Heck, let's even add Metroid into the discussion because all of the games in that series of late have been amazing, and that series still struggles to get a million-seller most of the time.

My point is that these franchises are what they are at this point, and Nintendo probably knows that better than anyone. That's not to say that they're not willing to do the same things with Mario and Zelda as they are with anything else (those franchises have also had games developed by other developers, you know), but regardless of what happens, the top franchises will simply sell better. This can be said with any publisher and any group of games. I'm sure there have been better games made by EA than the Madden games every year, but you can be sure that it's going to be the top-selling game for the company. It's one thing to wish that these games were more successful, but it's another to say that they aren't because they're not being treated the same way.

Nintendo definitely needs to branch out a bit more.They also need to bring some of their franchises into the 21st century (*coughZeldacough*),and actually make them with some passion,unlike some of recent uninspired installments (*coughPokemoncough*).VGobbsesser

Pokemon is the only franchise they have that's number one in it's genre

I don't know where you're coming up with Mario and Zelda being the good ones anymore

and legend of zelda OoT is still the second best action advanture game outhere. right after Okami,

opinions are fun =)

[QUOTE="DeadEndPanda"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Pokemon is the only franchise they have that's number one in it's genre

I don't know where you're coming up with Mario and Zelda being the good ones anymore

bob_newman

and legend of zelda OoT is still the second best action advanture game outhere. right after Okami,

opinions are fun =)

I've already explained why it's the better platformer

Also the creator says that Smash Bros is a sports game, so I'm going to go with what he says

I've already explained why it's the better platformer Also the creator says that Smash Bros is a sports game, so I'm going to go with what he says Jaysonguy

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"] I've already explained why it's the better platformer Also the creator says that Smash Bros is a sports game, so I'm going to go with what he says VGobbsesser

Yeah, but he did so...............yeah, there's that

From this month's anniversary issue of Nintendo Power...

Nintendo Power: Why do you think Super Smash Bros. continues to be so popular even though interest in traditional fighting games has dwindled?

Sakurai: I think it's because it is, in fact, not a fighting game. The nature of it is similar to a sports game in which the player shoots an opponent as if it were a ball. The results are different [every time you play], which, I think, is also a unique and attractive quality of the game.

Jaysonguy

[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"] Sakurai never said Smash Brothers was a sports game.Jaysonguy

Yeah, but he did so...............yeah, there's that

From this month's anniversary issue of Nintendo Power...

Nintendo Power: Why do you think Super Smash Bros. continues to be so popular even though interest in traditional fighting games has dwindled?

Sakurai: I think it's because it is, in fact, not a fighting game. The nature of it is similar to a sports game in which the player shoots an opponent as if it were a ball. The results are different [every time you play], which, I think, is also a unique and attractive quality of the game.

Jaysonguy

So he says it's similar to a sports game, not that it is one.

So.......yeah, there's that.

Yeah, but he did so...............yeah, there's that

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

From this month's anniversary issue of Nintendo Power...

Nintendo Power: Why do you think Super Smash Bros. continues to be so popular even though interest in traditional fighting games has dwindled?

Sakurai: I think it's because it is, in fact, not a fighting game. The nature of it is similar to a sports game in which the player shoots an opponent as if it were a ball. The results are different [every time you play], which, I think, is also a unique and attractive quality of the game.

Jaysonguy

I think you misunderstood his analogy.... He didn't say the game is a sports game. He said it has a similar nature. If I said that the nature of riding a motorcycle is similar to riding a bike, it doesn't mean that I think my Huffy is a Harley.

you should know by now that Nintendo isn't about making new IPs(even though they do make em they are just never concentrating on them) they have been milking franchises ever since i can remember. if you are looking for new IP's i suggest you get a new console. cause usually Nintendo relies on there 3rd party party support.(let alone every other console has 3rd party support aswell "so what am i talking abou"t?? your screwed)

...How does Nintendo expect these franchises to sell better if they don't invest the same effort into these games?...TheLordMagnus

Pokemon is the only franchise they have that's number one in it's genre

I don't know where you're coming up with Mario and Zelda being the good ones anymore

Huh? Pokemon wasn't even number one in its genre when it was released a decade ago, and the franchise has been stagnant ever since.Rocky32189

But it has the most sales.It's clearly number one.:roll:

But in all seriousness,Pokemon was one of my favorite franchises when it first released,and now,I can't even stand it.Pokemon Diamond is the epitome of uninspired gameplay.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Pokemon is the only franchise they have that's number one in it's genre

I don't know where you're coming up with Mario and Zelda being the good ones anymore

Rocky32189

What title is better?

you should know by now that Nintendo isn't about making new IPs(even though they do make em they are just never concentrating on them) they have been milking franchises ever since i can remember. if you are looking for new IP's i suggest you get a new console. cause usually Nintendo relies on there 3rd party party support.(let alone every other console has 3rd party support aswell "so what am i talking abou"t?? your screwed)

santanablu3

Pokemon is the only franchise they have that's number one in it's genre

I don't know where you're coming up with Mario and Zelda being the good ones anymore

What title is better?

[QUOTE="santanablu3"]

you should know by now that Nintendo isn't about making new IPs(even though they do make em they are just never concentrating on them) they have been milking franchises ever since i can remember. if you are looking for new IP's i suggest you get a new console. cause usually Nintendo relies on there 3rd party party support.(let alone every other console has 3rd party support aswell "so what am i talking abou"t?? your screwed)

nintendoboy16

There's this girl that you are totally into,

you have 3 shirts to wear tonight; one red, one blue, and one green.

You look good in all of them,

but you look best in red, and it's her favorite color.

Which would you wear to get her attention?

[QUOTE="danger_ranger95"]

There's this girl that you are totally into,

you have 3 shirts to wear tonight; one red, one blue, and one green.

You look good in all of them,

but you look best in red, and it's her favorite color.

Which would you wear to get her attention?

santanablu3

well in comparison to what the TC is saying (if this is truely Nintendo's stratedgy)...you would wear the red shirt right, to get the girl's attention.

Nintendo concentrates on it's red shirt (games) because they know they look good (or sell).

I'm not saying I agree, but again...if this is their supposed way of thinking and not spending as much time on other games...I would do the same thing. Just trying to get people to think ol' chap.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="santanablu3"]

you should know by now that Nintendo isn't about making new IPs(even though they do make em they are just never concentrating on them) they have been milking franchises ever since i can remember. if you are looking for new IP's i suggest you get a new console. cause usually Nintendo relies on there 3rd party party support.(let alone every other console has 3rd party support aswell "so what am i talking abou"t?? your screwed)

santanablu3