You heard it from Wii Live, but no credit. Long read, but please read.

First off, I would like to say that this is not entirely about brawl, but more of sites that write about Nintendo, so it is not too much about brawl to be put in the Brawl sticky, but it is Nintendo related enough.

I'm guessing many of you have heard about the rumors about the Brawl delay, and sadly, they have come ture. Yes, the retailers were changing the release date to March, but only March, no correct date. Well, thanks to Googledotman on the Wii Boards, Wii Live was the first to report about the delay to March 9th.

The saddest part is, sites such as GoNintendo, and Computers and Videogames, posted these exact same story's, without giving any credit to who they found the story from, or the recepient of the email confirming the delay.

Now, I can't quite blame CVG, cause I'm not sure, seeing as i have no idea where the site got it from, seeing as it is a euro site. But i emailed the writer for GoNintendo about this story, and i asked him if he does post it, to please give credit for the site. I checked back an hour later, still not posted, i check back again even later, it was posted, but no credit goes out to anybody, not even a source of where the story is.

Now, I'm pretty sure that the story that was posted was the same one i emailed, the post featured the same email from the same company we posted. But no credit to either Wii Live, or the GameSpot user that got the email.

If this rumor was false, or slightly off such as a different date in March that the email said, i would not have cared. But, all the past rumors about GameFly, and all the other retailers, stated dates like March 29th. Our post, which was still a rumor at the time, stated the correct date.

Now, GoNintendo is a great site, with a huge fan-base, doubled to tripled Wii Lives, which i can admit out of respect seeing as they have been writing for over a year as opposed to us writing for 4 months. But i thought with a site as big as GoNintendo, they would have the decency, and the professionalism to give credit to the original source.

We here at Wii Live have posted storys from GoNintendo before, and everytime we have, we posted the source either too GoNintendo, or gave credit to GoNintendo for helping us find the story. And if we continue to post storys from GoNintendo, we will still give credit to show respect, and professionalism.

And one thing i would like to say before anyone says anything. Yes, i know we are not professional writers, but even if you are just writing for a little site, or a big site, you wanna be as professional as you can be. So please don't comment "You are not professionals, so why bother saying anything about professionalism?"

When you live in a glass house don't throw stones.Jaysonguy

Please explain a little more.

You make a good point. PlasmaBeam44

Thank you.

You make a good point. PlasmaBeam44

please explain it to me.

cause what im getting is that sources were plagiarized and that either it will be released in febuary or late march? sry for my misunderstanding.

its really not that big of a deal. think of it as they would. How do you think it would sound if Gonintendo based there info on a 4 moth website and some guy on a forum. Im sure there alot more proffesional then you thinkdinofan01

I never said they were not professional. They are way more professional then us, no doubt. But with a site as big as GoNintendo, and a site like Wii Live, you would think maybe they could help us out in the least bit. Especially after i asked in the email.

[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]You make a good point. WolfWatch

please explain it to me.

cause what im getting is that sources were plagiarized and that either it will be released in febuary or late march? sry for my misunderstanding.

hes saying gonintendo based there info of that little website and did not cite it. thats really not plagarisism. plagarisim is qouting someone word for word with out saying who it was

[QUOTE="dinofan01"]its really not that big of a deal. think of it as they would. How do you think it would sound if Gonintendo based there info on a 4 moth website and some guy on a forum. Im sure there alot more proffesional then you thinkDurffen

I never said they were not professional. They are way more professional then us, no doubt. But with a site as big as GoNintendo, and a site like Wii Live, you would think maybe they could help us out in the least bit. Especially after i asked in the email.

Are you even sure that they got their info from you and didnt research it themselves or from someonelse

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[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]You make a good point. dinofan01

please explain it to me.

cause what im getting is that sources were plagiarized and that either it will be released in febuary or late march? sry for my misunderstanding.

hes saying gonintendo based there info of that little website and did not cite it. thats really not plagarisism. plagarisim is qouting someone word for word with out saying who it was

oh ok ty for explaining. still not citing a source would be considered plagiarism, however since this news is assumably public knowledge it would not be

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[QUOTE="dinofan01"]its really not that big of a deal. think of it as they would. How do you think it would sound if Gonintendo based there info on a 4 moth website and some guy on a forum. Im sure there alot more proffesional then you thinkdinofan01

I never said they were not professional. They are way more professional then us, no doubt. But with a site as big as GoNintendo, and a site like Wii Live, you would think maybe they could help us out in the least bit. Especially after i asked in the email.

Are you even sure that they got their info from you and didnt research it themselves or from someonelse

I can't say I'm 100% sure, but it was the exact same email, from the same retailer, and there post did not have a source. at least 3 to 4 other sites posted the same story, linking it to Wii Live's.

When you live in a glass house don't throw stones.Jaysonguy

LOL what idiot would live in a glass house??..

Sadly there's always two sides to the story, so Gonintendo could just say that they didn't take the story from you, and you have no proof. That's how it is in business now-a-days, gonintendo doesn't want to lose any of their viewers to wiilive, so they're just going to deny you on the matter, whether or not what you're saying is true.

When you live in a glass house don't throw stones.Jaysonguy

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]When you live in a glass house don't throw stones.viva_havarte

Nice Demitri Martin reference.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]When you live in a glass house don't throw stones.viva_havarte

you came here to cry about your site not getting referenced? *sigh*air_wolf_cubed

I knew someone would say something like this. I'm not crying about my site reference. I guess everyone should just forget about the whole thing, seeing as everyone loves GoNintendo so much, there is no point in even asking for a reference from them.

[QUOTE="dinofan01"]its really not that big of a deal. think of it as they would. How do you think it would sound if Gonintendo based there info on a 4 moth website and some guy on a forum. Im sure there alot more proffesional then you thinkDurffen

I never said they were not professional. They are way more professional then us, no doubt. But with a site as big as GoNintendo, and a site like Wii Live, you would think maybe they could help us out in the least bit. Especially after i asked in the email.

I always read Gonintendo, you can say Im a fan of the site, and everything I read always got a source on it even if it is from a small site, I mean you can send him anything and he would always givecredit to the person, the only time is when a lot of people send in the same thing, and when that happens hesays " thanks to everyone" or something like that

First off, let me just say, I have nothing against GoNintendo, they are an incredible site, and i do not wish to take any action against RMC for any of this. From what i see, the post i made about this rumor was at 1:30AM, after i posted it, i instantly thought maybe i could inform other sites about this, so i instantly looked to see if GoNintendo already posted it, after looking through a few pages of news, i assumed it was not posted. So I instantly emailed him about this, and asked him that if he does post this, that it would be cool if he could give some credit to the site, and i sent him the link to the article. I checked back the next day to see if he really did post when i emailed him, and he posted it at 7:30AM according to the site.

I'm up all night every night, so a couple hours later, i noticed 2 other sites that posted it with Wii Live's story as the original source. I looked at the GoNintendo post, and there was no source at all, and not even credit givin to the man who posted the email in the first place, who i gave credit too.

Now, i did not expect to take action against GoNintendo, i respect them, they are definitely the best Nintendo site out there, and i actually hope to partner up with them. I would never go against a different website, no matter what. I also do not expect to take any of GoNintendo's viewers, ever. Being a smaller, new Wii based site, i hope you can all understand where we are coming from. It is 2008, and the amount of video game sites is astonishing, so it is pretty hard to get viewers. So I'm only trying to help the site out the best i can. No, not by attacking GoNintendo, by getting basic simple help from other sites.

I read GoNintendo every days and seriously I really don't know what you're talking. RMC (the webmaster) always gives his sources when he has something. I just search for your Wii Live and nothing appeared on GoNintendo. chris3116

Here is the GoNintendo post, and here is the Wii Live post.

When you live in a glass house don't throw stones.Jaysonguy

it actually goes "dont throw stones in a glass house":P

and this is what the qoute means, i dont know if this is what he is getting at but whatever.

an example would be (not making fun of anyone at all!) if i was oversized (large) and so were you, and i said lose some weight.

It means that dont critsize others when you have the same problem as well.

Was i right jayson?