Zelda Split Timeline Theory from Retrospective (possible spoilers)

I'm sure this is old to everyone here but I just went to gametrailers.com and watched part 6 of the Zelda Retrospective:

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/5269.html (possible spoilers in there)

That was awesome and seems like a cool theory but also may be kind of a stretch.

Do you agree with this split timeline theory? Whether or not it is accurate or just a far fetched stretch, it was cool to see and re-live these amazing games.

My opinion, I'm sure it's not right and even though they did do a good job in trying to fit the original 8-bit Zeldas in there, who's to say that after Zelda 1 and 2, Nintendo didn't just rewrite the story with ALTTP or even with OoT? Also, I beat Twilight Princess and have no idea how to fit that into the mix.

I would love to hear your thoughts if this hasn't been discussed too much before because it is a year or so old.

Sorry if this is a major repeat thread.

Well, everyone likes a conspiracy theory, and while there is nothing being conspired here, it is sort of interesting to think there has been a connection in all these games for all this time.

It does sound a little stretched, but some of it can be true. It's a very interesting video, especially for LoZelda fans.

Best Theory Ever

Tis the legend of zelda

each story is a retelling of the same

Best Theory Ever

Tis the legend of zelda

each story is a retelling of the same

blingchu55

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Best Theory Ever

Tis the legend of zelda

each story is a retelling of the same

roboccs

i still go by my idea its pretty basic....the reason it seems like a time line ...well...

look at oot and tp.

tp has so many oot references

that's because tp is a mix of the oot and mm versions of the story

i really enjoyed the retrospect and the main reason zelda is my fav games is because of all this timeline stuff

i think twilight princess takes place after the great sea dried up and a new hyrule was born

I thought that their theory on the split time line made perfect sense, cause like they said with the oracle games on GBA, both games have similar stories and events and seem to take place at the same time, but in alternate dimensions.

Also didn't someone from Nintendo say that there were two timelines, (its in the vid but I can't remeber who said it.)

This is the worst portrayal of the split time line theory i've seen. Several problems with the theory are that The Legend of Zelda does not have the same Link from Majora's Mask (It doesn't make sense. Why was Link informed of Zelda's kidnapping by an Impa who doesn't recognize him?) and Link's Awakening is known to occur after A Link to the Past. Before I can really make my own time line, I'll have to see what happened after the phantom hourglass. It would help me if I knew how (or whether) hyrule was reestablished.gorilaboy

i can tell you it got alot of similarities between Link's Awakening! I was like omg could LA be part of the wind waker time line????? i know its a sequel to ALTTP but i mean there are so many simialrities, and i just realized links on an island throughout that whole game.

Well the one guy from nintendo all but said that there is two time lines because of OoTSuperstrokey

yeah, i remember that, i'm going to look for that article now.

http://thehylia.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1173258541&archive=&start_from=&ucat=19&

Linked. (the ninty rep was Aonuma)

[QUOTE="gorilaboy"]This is the worst portrayal of the split time line theory i've seen. Several problems with the theory are that The Legend of Zelda does not have the same Link from Majora's Mask (It doesn't make sense. Why was Link informed of Zelda's kidnapping by an Impa who doesn't recognize him?) and Link's Awakening is known to occur after A Link to the Past. Before I can really make my own time line, I'll have to see what happened after the phantom hourglass. It would help me if I knew how (or whether) hyrule was reestablished.Minishdriveby

i can tell you it got alot of similarities between Link's Awakening! I was like omg could LA be part of the wind waker time line????? i know its a sequel to ALTTP but i mean there are so many simialrities, and i just realized links on an island throughout that whole game.

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

[QUOTE="gorilaboy"]This is the worst portrayal of the split time line theory i've seen. Several problems with the theory are that The Legend of Zelda does not have the same Link from Majora's Mask (It doesn't make sense. Why was Link informed of Zelda's kidnapping by an Impa who doesn't recognize him?) and Link's Awakening is known to occur after A Link to the Past. Before I can really make my own time line, I'll have to see what happened after the phantom hourglass. It would help me if I knew how (or whether) hyrule was reestablished.gorilaboy

i can tell you it got alot of similarities between Link's Awakening! I was like omg could LA be part of the wind waker time line????? i know its a sequel to ALTTP but i mean there are so many simialrities, and i just realized links on an island throughout that whole game.

oh sorry i understand what you mean, but did you see any connections between the two games (PH and LA) also?

[QUOTE="gorilaboy"][QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

[QUOTE="gorilaboy"]This is the worst portrayal of the split time line theory i've seen. Several problems with the theory are that The Legend of Zelda does not have the same Link from Majora's Mask (It doesn't make sense. Why was Link informed of Zelda's kidnapping by an Impa who doesn't recognize him?) and Link's Awakening is known to occur after A Link to the Past. Before I can really make my own time line, I'll have to see what happened after the phantom hourglass. It would help me if I knew how (or whether) hyrule was reestablished.Minishdriveby

i can tell you it got alot of similarities between Link's Awakening! I was like omg could LA be part of the wind waker time line????? i know its a sequel to ALTTP but i mean there are so many simialrities, and i just realized links on an island throughout that whole game.

oh sorry i understand what you mean, but did you see any connections between the two games (PH and LA) also?

Here's a forum DEDICATED to timeline theorizing!

Zelda Theorizing - Zelda Universe Forums

OOT is the game where it all changed, since it deals with time, it's logical to conclude the timeline split. A future with ganon sealed and no link, a past with link running off to termina, and i would guess, a fully alive ganon. Now consider, Link goes off to save Navi (MM) leaving Hyrule with a living ganon, who is free to destroy the kingdom, leading into WW (Since in WW's backstory no hero appears, of course, he's in termina at the time)

So, the timelines are as such

1: The Minish Cap, Four Swords, Ocarina of Time, A Link to the Past, Oracle of Ages/Seasons, Twilight Princess, LoZ, Links Awakening??, Zelda II

2: The Minish Cap, Four Swords, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Oracle of Ages/Seasons, The Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass

The Logic behind this? I'll try it spoiler free.

The Minish Cap comes first obviously, because this deals with the Picori, the forging of the Four Sword, no Ganon, Vaati as the main villain, and Link without a customary green hat. Four Swords comes next because Link has his hat, and the Four Sword is already established, Vaati is also still the villain.

Ocarina of Time, the pivotal split point comes next, in Timeline 1, The events of Ocarina of time happened, Link was sent back to the past, Ganon was sealed, and a ruined Hyrule lived on in relative peace, A Link to the Past comes next, the backstory of LTTP is very similar to the events of adult links OOT (Seven Sages / Seven Wise Men, Ganondorf seeking the Golden Land / Ganondorf seeking the entrance to the golden land via the Temple of Time, and then Ganon being sealed in the Dark World by the wise men / being sealed by the sages), Ganon returns in LTTP and is destroyed by Link, who touches the Triforce and brings about a reversal of Ganons deeds.

The Oracle game 1 comes next (Seasons or Ages, can't really tell, all we know is it takes place at the same time as its counterpart in Timeline 2, if you play this game on its own, no Ganon, if you beat both of the games you may face Ganon.. strange, but in Timeline 2 Ganon is still around.. so maybe cross dimensional gameplay makes it logical.

Twilight Princess comes next, the world of TP is a more rustic, damaged looking Hyrule, which of course is logical considering the events of adult links OOT and Ganons 7 year reign of destruction. a new Link, is forced again to confront Ganon who was sealed in another realm and escapes.

Next is LoZ, this is considered to happen here, because the Triforce are now physical items, and not part of the souls of the chosen ones, there is also only 2, Wisdom and Power. Ganon is a beast, not a humanoid, and steals Power for himself. It's hard to link LoZ into this part of the timeline, but it's harder to link it anywhere else..

Links Awakening is considered to happen between LoZ and Zelda 2, during Links trip between east and west Hyrule. Although it could also be modified to fit after WW.. as someone said PH and LA have some similarities.. So we'll put a big ?? on here for now.

Zelda 2 comes last, Link is grown and is the same Link from LoZ, since Ganon is dead (Not sealed.. dead) and is about to be resurrected by an evil wizard, Zelda is cursed to a long sleep. This is the only game where Ganon is declared actually dead.

Timeline 2: Ocarina of Time, in this timeline, the events don't happen, here, we have a young link returned from the future, ganon doesn't acquire the key to the temple of time, link doesn't pull the sword from the pedestal and open the gateway, and all is good.. or is it? Ganondorf would still be alive as leader of the Gerudo, and plotting to take over.

Next is Majora's Mask, Link leaves Hyrule in search of Navi and is drawn into the realm of Termina, leaving Ganondorf in Hyrule, and no hero to stop his evil plan. Link then returns to Hyrule at the end of MM, but we don't know what happens next.

Next we know, is The Wind Waker, Ganon apparently conquers Hyrule, and the gods intervene, flooding the country, no hero appeared (he was in termina) and Ganon was sealed below the waves.

Last in this timeline is Phantom Hourglass, it follows directly on from WW. We could add LA in here somewhere as well, with the one exception that Tetra and her Pirates do not appear in LA. Hmphh.

So, that's the best I can make out of it, it all fits together with the exception of LoZ and LA which are enigmatic at best.

No. It's already been proven false. There was an interview stating that Twilight Princess takes places 300 years after Hyrule A, the point in which Link still was a child. Ganondorf was banished in the Twilight Realm and then 300 years later was attempted to be destroyed the sages. However, due to the Triforce of Power Ganondorf wielded, he survived the attack and set himself free.

And another thing, Zelda: Four Swords takes place directly after The Minish Cap. Now, there is debate as to which side of the timeline the original Zelda 1 and Zelda 2 take place in. The timline dated back in 2006 is now false.

Wow how random, someone resurrected this thread I made almost a year ago. Do people just pick random threads to bring back or do they search for a topic then respond to it no matter how old it is?

Anyways I don't know about the split time theory; I just thought the retrospective was very cool.