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#1 ChipmunkDeluxe
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What in your opinion is the best part of a song??

The beat, the lyrics, or something else ??(let me know so i can add it to the poll)

For me its the beat....i can listen to a song with a really good beat but with terrible lyrics, but i cant listen to a song with really good lyrics with a terrible beat....

and i like really laid back music....like Better Days by 2pac, and Nobody Does it Better or Regulate by Nate Dogg and Warren G....i dont really like up tempo stuff...

whats your opinion??
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#2 damelokidd124
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I need lyrics *Picks up Food & Liquor off the table*
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#3 ChipmunkDeluxe
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I need lyrics *Picks up Food & Liquor off the table*damelokidd124
My favorite songs by Lupe Fiasco arent even on that CD... Steady Mobbin' and Slow Down are my favorites...but theyre on mixtapes and not the actual CD... Steady Mobbin is so much better than anything on that Cd...
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#4 Lakersman2000
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i need both ... but if i had to choose id take crappy lyrics with a dope beat over crappy beat with dope lyrics .
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#5 Scuervo
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I'd take lyrics/flow
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#6 GamerMan97
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lyrics over beat for me.
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#7 Eragon_11
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I tend to enjoy a song much more if it has a nice beat.
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#8 Foolz3h
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Lyrics for me. If a song has great lyrics and a wack beat the beat makes no diffrence.

if a song has got an awesome beat with crap lyrics then I'll get bored very quickly.

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#9 mems_1224
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both but if i had to choose one i'd take beats over lyrics. you can have great lyrics but if you have crappy beats that bore me whats the point?(Rass Kass)
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#10 The-Bulldozer
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Lyrics.
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#11 familyguy77
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Lyrics. I could care less about the beat. If a rapper is spittin fire the beat really don't matter.
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#12 SunJian18
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You need a good mix of lyrics and beats, but if you have one without the other, this is what tends to happen:

Initially, you will like the track with the hot beat, but the beat will play itself out after you listen to it for awhile.

And the track with the great lyrics and bones beat will get slept on, but one day it will grow on you, but it could take months before it hits you and you appreciate the track.

At least that's how it works in my case.

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#13 Colt45fool
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Flow

I don't give a **** what you're talking about, or what you're talking about it over, so long as you sound cool on it.

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#14 Foolz3h
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You need a good mix of lyrics and beats, but if you have one without the other, this is what tends to happen:

Initially, you will like the track with the hot beat, but the beat will play itself out after you listen to it for awhile.

And the track with the great lyrics and bones beat will get slept on, but one day it will grow on you, but it could take months before it hits you and you appreciate the track.

At least that's how it works in my case.

SunJian18
Aye exactly! A good beat always gets booring afterawhile where as great lyrics will last for much longer.
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#15 Eragon_11
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Flow

I don't give a **** what you're talking about, or what you're talking about it over, so long as you sound cool on it.

Colt45fool
***** I agree with you on that.
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#16 nigel777
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Lyrics for sho.
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#17 Improbus
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If it's not a good beat, I can't get a through a song. So beat for sure.
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#18 mems_1224
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Flow

I don't give a **** what you're talking about, or what you're talking about it over, so long as you sound cool on it.

Colt45fool
that wasn't an option noob :P
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#19 Colt45fool
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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

Flow

I don't give a **** what you're talking about, or what you're talking about it over, so long as you sound cool on it.

mems_1224
that wasn't an option noob :P

"Other"
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#20 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

Flow

I don't give a **** what you're talking about, or what you're talking about it over, so long as you sound cool on it.

Colt45fool
that wasn't an option noob :P

"Other"

owned :(
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#21 TreyPhan82
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IMHO I really think the quality of a song is dependent on both.  Pete Rock's T.R.O.Y. beat is probably one of my favorites of all time, but say it was Jim Jones instead of CL on it, the song would be garbage.  On the other side of that coin though I feel that even if someone brings it lyrically, if the beat is irritating I'll have trouble enjoying it.  El-P comes to mind in this situation, but that is not dissin him cause i love his ish, but sometimes the beats on Fantastic Damage give me a headache ya know?  There is also the case where even if the lyrics are mind blowing, if the beat is fire I'll love the song, T.I.'s "What You Know" and "Top  Back" are great examples.  I don't think you can single out one element of a song and say that is what makes it great, mainly because it depends on the combination of these elements that equal quality.
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If it came down to it I'd pick beat over lyrics unless the lyrics were ridiculously good and overuled the crapiness of the beat. Because in Hip-Hop I think beats are generally better than lyrics. Other than the few God MCs whose lyrics would murder a metrenome.

I think it would be better to pick an artist and ask "beats or lyrics?"

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#23 ChipmunkDeluxe
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i thought beat would be winning :(
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#24 mal_251
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choosing beat over lyrics in hip-hop genre is kinda wack. if everyone would love to listen to amazing beats but terrible lyrics then rappers like yung joc would be called a god mc. there are som expections tho so i dono.
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#25 esb617
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choosing beat over lyrics in hip-hop genre is kinda wack. if everyone would love to listen to amazing beats but terrible lyrics then rappers like yung joc would be called a god mc. there are som expections tho so i dono.mal_251

Except Young Joc has horrible beats
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#26 TheBigTicket21
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I would listen to instrumentals over poetry sessions anyday.
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#27 jsmoke03
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i'm a lyrics kind of guy.

i first discovered this when i listened to aceyalones album "book of human language" my all time favorite

edit: n the fact i dont listen 2 the radio nemore cuz most emcees on the radio need to get pistol whip into admittin how dumb they are
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#28 ChipmunkDeluxe
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i'm a lyrics kind of guy.

i first discovered this when i listened to aceyalones album "book of human language" my all time favorite

edit: n the fact i dont listen 2 the radio nemore cuz most emcees on the radio need to get pistol whip into admittin how dumb they are
jsmoke03
yes....they definately do... i dont listen to the radio any more either....every rap song they have on it is by some retards like Little John, Akon and all those people....they all suck.. i cant understand why anybody would like them...i really dont....there are better songs with better lyrics, beat, and instrumentals than all of the songs on the radio....yet nobody has ever heard of them...
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#29 Sportsnut101
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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

Flow

I don't give a **** what you're talking about, or what you're talking about it over, so long as you sound cool on it.

Eragon_11
***** I agree with you on that.

Word.
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#30 jus2nyce
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**** a DJ, put Nate Dogg on the hook
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#31 Apocalypse33
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**** a DJ, put Nate Dogg on the hookjus2nyce
for real, he makes every song good
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#32 RR88
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Both. There are some songs with good lyrics and a terrible beat and vice versa though as well. So it depends on the track I guess.
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#34 MGSfan4life
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I would listen to instrumentals over poetry sessions anyday.TheBigTicket21
Word. There can be songs that are good that have either great lyrics and a crappy beat or vice versa, but if you take one side of the equation away COMPLETELY then it's a different story. Unless the MC has an incredible flow then the accapella is gonna get boring pretty quickly regardless of the quality of the lyrics being spit. Meanwhile, instrumentals have a lot more replay value for the most part and aren't gonna get boring as quickly. Advantage: beats.
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#35 Black-Demon
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Both. There are some songs with good lyrics and a terrible beat and vice versa though as well. So it depends on the track I guess.RR88



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#36 Lakersman2000
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[QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]I would listen to instrumentals over poetry sessions anyday.MGSfan4life
Word. There can be songs that are good that have either great lyrics and a crappy beat or vice versa, but if you take one side of the equation away COMPLETELY then it's a different story. Unless the MC has an incredible flow then the accapella is gonna get boring pretty quickly regardless of the quality of the lyrics being spit. Meanwhile, instrumentals have a lot more replay value for the most part and aren't gonna get boring as quickly. Advantage: beats.

word life.
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#37 tmac200913
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i really need both... but I'd go with tha beat..I dont care how strong tha lyrics are, if tha beat just plain sucks, It makes me lose interest in that song..

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#38 Orlando_Magic
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[QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]I would listen to instrumentals over poetry sessions anyday.MGSfan4life
Word. There can be songs that are good that have either great lyrics and a crappy beat or vice versa, but if you take one side of the equation away COMPLETELY then it's a different story. Unless the MC has an incredible flow then the accapella is gonna get boring pretty quickly regardless of the quality of the lyrics being spit. Meanwhile, instrumentals have a lot more replay value for the most part and aren't gonna get boring as quickly. Advantage: beats.



I think the beats to most songs would be repetitive too, considering they just loop the same loop over and over for a few minutes. Basically the beat would be repeating over and over every few seconds for the whole song while every bar of the lyrics would be different. Most rap songs have repeated loops but people like DJ Shadow, Pete Rock, Dilla, etc. do make great instrumental albums that don't just repeat the same loop the whole song, so that'd be the way to go.
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#39 Orlando_Magic
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I would listen to instrumentals over poetry sessions anyday.TheBigTicket21


I think I would rather listen to poetry probably. Poetry is much more thought provoking...

Black Ice reciting a poem
Black Ice reciting another poem





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#40 PowerEchidna
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NEED EM BOTH...BUT IF I HAD TO CHOOSE I'D SAY LYRICS.
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#41 Lakersman2000
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[QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]I would listen to instrumentals over poetry sessions anyday.Orlando_Magic


I think I would rather listen to poetry probably. Poetry is much more thought provoking...

Black Ice reciting a poem
Black Ice reciting another poem





i dont like poetry at all. bores me to death .
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#42 Eragon_11
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]I would listen to instrumentals over poetry sessions anyday.Lakersman2000


I think I would rather listen to poetry probably. Poetry is much more thought provoking...

Black Ice reciting a poem
Black Ice reciting another poem





i dont like poetry at all. bores me to death .

hit it on the head with that one.