CIassic Album Thread #119 one for Colt

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#1 Foolz3h
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Allmusic:

After three cultishly revered albums with Organized Konfusion, underground legend Pharoahe Monch cut a solo deal with Rawkus and delivered his debut, Internal Affairs, in late 1999. Both Monch and Rawkus seemed to want to push their music farther above ground, and some longtime followers were shocked to hear a harder, angrier, more profane Monch, who seemed to be courting a more thugged-out audience. But it's a reinvention that doesn't compromise his high lyrical standards, making Internal Affairs a success on its own terms. Sounding like it was sampled from a monster-movie soundtrack, the club smash "Simon Says" sets the tone for the album; Monch delivers rapid-fire, intricately rhymed lines in between shouts of "get the **** up!" and "girls, rub on your **** It proved to be the most successful crossover bid of Monch's career, and much of the rest of Internal Affairs manages to straddle the underground/mainstream divide surprisingly well. Even when he's just giving shout-outs to Queens, or enlisting guests like Canibus and M.O.P. to help pummel a track into submission, Monch lives up to his reputation as one of hip-hop's most technically skilled MCs. Nowhere is this balancing act more evident than on "Rape," a rather disquieting extended metaphor for his mastery of hip-hop (other MCs just "ain't f*ckin' it right"). A more benign theme track is "Official," whose carefully constructed barrage of sports references demonstrates the cleverness that made Monch a cult legend. Not everything sits well together -- the sophomoric "The Ass" is an odd way to lead into the love song "The Light," the Organized Konfusion reunion "God Send," and the reflective "The Truth," which features guest appearances by Common and Talib Kweli. But in terms of bringing an underappreciated hip-hop great to a (somewhat) wider audience, Internal Affairs generally gets it right.

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For me this is everything a rap album should be. Pharoahe Monch raps with absolute confidence in everything he's saying, and with impeccable delivery, and isn't afraid to make fun of himself at the same time, ie. him switching up the rub on your **** chorus. He's got nothing in his mind but to entertain. Great production, great raps, hell great posse cut, and I've not even mentioned Rape yet. For that alone it gets cIassic status for me---well, that and the fact that pretty much all the other songs are fantastic too. 

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yessss
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#3 Toriko42
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Wow I was going to nominate this

Hell yeah, Monch was a beast on this album

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#4 -Halftime-
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Yes indeed, haven't bumped it in awhile, but this got MAJOR plays like 3 years ago when I first discovered it. Definitely a classic.
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#5 DeadQwon
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This is like the classic OF classics. I really do love and tresure this album.

Yes.

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#7 DrCoCoPiMp
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I think you can close this thread, its not like someone's gonna say no to this masterpiece

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#8 HaSheeSh_basic
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One for Colt? Monch is actually my favourite rapper u know, not colt.

:(

classic indeed

 

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#9 HaSheeSh_basic
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I think you can close this thread, its not like someone's gonna say no to this masterpiece

DrCoCoPiMp
actually, you may never know. In previous generation OTB, I put this album up for nomination, and it didn't end up voting for a classic. However, for this batch, it's safe to say it will be voted to being a classic, too many youngins throwin the word classic around like's it's nothin
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#10 Anti-Venom
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Its a yes for me, Monch is crazy on the mic. Solid album.
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#11 elpooz
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I'd say no... but it's close. I really like the album, but it falls short a few times. I think it's just the structure, because Monch's delivery on this is amazing, and all the beats are strong. Love every track except for 1 or 2, but the album just doesn't flow for me, making it a rough listen.

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#12 fat_rob
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^ :| really pooz?

Anyway yes, obvious yes. 

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#13 Colt45fool
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I'd say no... but it's close. I really like the album, but it falls short a few times. I think it's just the structure, because Monch's delivery on this is amazing, and all the beats are strong. Love every track except for 1 or 2, but the album just doesn't flow for me, making it a rough listen.

elpooz

Rebirth is good, but this isn't a classic?!?!

Hand me your rap pass please...you don't deserve it anymore.

Yes, this is a classic no doubt! Props on nominating this, I was probably going to do it with #120 :)

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#14 Colt45fool
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One for Colt? Monch is actually my favourite rapper u know, not colt.

:(

classic indeed

 

HaSheeSh_basic
lol, this is true, but Monch is my boy.
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#15 HerbertdaPerv
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only 2 tracks and you're denying classic status? 

That's what annoys me about some rap fans. They say albums arn't classic because of a couple tracks arn't good while the rest of the album is brilliant (ahem, stankonia).

No album in this world is perfect, fact. 

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#16 gamr92
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Yes!

 

and an album can be perfect. ^^

Ahem, Illmatic. (and bth, but that stupid song with taraach killed it.):(

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#17 mems_1224
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One for Colt? Monch is actually my favourite rapper u know, not colt.

:(

classic indeed

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lol thats the first thing i thought of when i saw the actual album. when i saw it was for colt i figured it'd be like a lame charles hamilton mixtape or something :lol:
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only 2 tracks and you're denying classic status? 

That's what annoys me about some rap fans. They say albums arn't classic because of a couple tracks arn't good while the rest of the album is brilliant (ahem, stankonia).

No album in this world is perfect, fact. 

HerbertdaPerv
elpooz is doing that to prove me wrong. He knows that when I was talking abt the "youngin" in my previous post...it was aimed at him :lol:
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#19 Toriko42
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That's what annoys me about some rap fans. They say albums arn't classic because of a couple tracks arn't good while the rest of the album is brilliant (ahem, stankonia).

HerbertdaPerv
Indeed, Stankonia is easily one of the definitive albums of the 00's but whatever
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#20 eightball88
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Its a yes for me, Monch is crazy on the mic. Solid album.Anti-Venom

awesome analysis,

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#21 GTALoco
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Heh, I was considering nominating this too.

Obviously yes.

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#22 Foolz3h
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Obviously my vote is yes. :P

Not sure if I should count herbertdaperv or a couple of other comments so I elft 'em out. Doesn't matter anyway really.

Yes 11

GTALoco, Agnidev, Toriko42, -Halftime-, DeadQwon, Mkavanaugh77, HaSheeSh_basic, Anti-Venom, Colt45fool, gamr92, Foolz3h

No 1

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#24 Anti-Venom
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[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]Its a yes for me, Monch is crazy on the mic. Solid album.eightball88

awesome analysis,

As long as its better then yours im good

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#25 189245455704665724390135605497
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I'm gonna go with yes
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#26 elpooz
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hash gets the win. lol at colt falling for the overly-typical elpooz stupid explanation. "it didn't flow well for me" :lol:... i thought colt of all people would be like "okay, that's TOO stupid". it doesn't even make sense.... i have BTH out of order in tracklisting and voted yes for it lol. 

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tbh with you pooz, I didn't even read your post. I read "I'd say so...but it's close" and hit that quick quote button. I want to give an explanation as to why I didn't read your post, but I think I'll get banned for it.
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#28 elpooz
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tbh with you pooz, I didn't even read your post. I read "I'd say so...but it's close" and hit that quick quote button. I want to give an explanation as to why I didn't read your post, but I think I'll get banned for it.Colt45fool

:lol:

don't worry, it won't hurt my feelings. i love having the outlier opinions/tastes here... makes things interesting. and being called stupid over not agreeing with someone makes my day

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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]tbh with you pooz, I didn't even read your post. I read "I'd say so...but it's close" and hit that quick quote button. I want to give an explanation as to why I didn't read your post, but I think I'll get banned for it.elpooz

:lol:

don't worry, it won't hurt my feelings. i love having the outlier opinions/tastes here... makes things interesting. and being called stupid over not agreeing with someone makes my day

no, i'm not falling for this trick. Just because you're not offended (and I know you won't be) doesn't mean Gamespot's snitches, and Gamespot's mods won't think you are, or think I'm trying to offend you. They're going to moderate me for trolling because of what I want to say....and it's not even bad.

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#30 elpooz
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[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]tbh with you pooz, I didn't even read your post. I read "I'd say so...but it's close" and hit that quick quote button. I want to give an explanation as to why I didn't read your post, but I think I'll get banned for it.Colt45fool

:lol:

don't worry, it won't hurt my feelings. i love having the outlier opinions/tastes here... makes things interesting. and being called stupid over not agreeing with someone makes my day

no, i'm not falling for this trick. Just because you're not offended (and I know you won't be) doesn't mean Gamespot's snitches, and Gamespot's mods won't think you are, or think I'm trying to offend you. They're going to moderate me for trolling because of what I want to say....and it's not even bad.

you sound like a paranoid Tupac.

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#31 Colt45fool
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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]tbh with you pooz, I didn't even read your post. I read "I'd say so...but it's close" and hit that quick quote button. I want to give an explanation as to why I didn't read your post, but I think I'll get banned for it.elpooz

:lol:

don't worry, it won't hurt my feelings. i love having the outlier opinions/tastes here... makes things interesting. and being called stupid over not agreeing with someone makes my day

no, i'm not falling for this trick. Just because you're not offended (and I know you won't be) doesn't mean Gamespot's snitches, and Gamespot's mods won't think you are, or think I'm trying to offend you. They're going to moderate me for trolling because of what I want to say....and it's not even bad.

you sound like a paranoid tupac.

my moderations turn into bans nowadays....so I tread lightly. it was either overhaul how i post, or stop posting here all together. ive done a bit of both.
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#33 hittin
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only 2 tracks and you're denying classic status? 

That's what annoys me about some rap fans. They say albums arn't classic because of a couple tracks arn't good while the rest of the album is brilliant (ahem, stankonia).

No album in this world is perfect, fact. 

HerbertdaPerv

you havent heard nas illmatic then have you?

 

no for me.

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#34 Foolz3h
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Yes 13

GTALoco, Agnidev, Toriko42, -Halftime-, DeadQwon, Mkavanaugh77, HaSheeSh_basic, Anti-Venom, Colt45fool, gamr92, Foolz3h, WGE, pooz now?

No 1

hittin.

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#35 HerbertdaPerv
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Obviously my vote is yes. :P

Not sure if I should count herbertdaperv 

Foolz3h

cmon son

 

 

[QUOTE="HerbertdaPerv"]

only 2 tracks and you're denying ****c status? 

That's what annoys me about some rap fans. They say albums arn't ****c because of a couple tracks arn't good while the rest of the album is brilliant (ahem, stankonia).

No album in this world is perfect, fact. 

hittin

you havent heard nas illmatic then have you?

 

no for me.

Halfime and represent is wack, sorry. 

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#36 hittin
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[QUOTE="Foolz3h"]

Obviously my vote is yes. :P

Not sure if I should count herbertdaperv 

HerbertdaPerv

cmon son

 

 

[QUOTE="HerbertdaPerv"]

only 2 tracks and you're denying ****c status? 

That's what annoys me about some rap fans. They say albums arn't ****c because of a couple tracks arn't good while the rest of the album is brilliant (ahem, stankonia).

No album in this world is perfect, fact. 

hittin

you havent heard nas illmatic then have you?

 

no for me.

Halfime and represent is wack, sorry. 

in your opinion

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#37 Foolz3h
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[QUOTE="Foolz3h"]

Obviously my vote is yes. :P

Not sure if I should count herbertdaperv 

HerbertdaPerv

cmon son

 

 

[QUOTE="HerbertdaPerv"]

only 2 tracks and you're denying ****c status? 

That's what annoys me about some rap fans. They say albums arn't ****c because of a couple tracks arn't good while the rest of the album is brilliant (ahem, stankonia).

No album in this world is perfect, fact. 

hittin

you havent heard nas illmatic then have you?

 

no for me.

Halfime and represent is wack, sorry. 

Your vote is a yes then?

Definitely agreed you should count then. :P