Classic Album #120: Jay-Z, "Reasonable Doubt"

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#1 Colt45fool
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You fools haven't nominated this yet...SMH

Before Jay-Z fashioned himself into hip-hop's most notorious capitalist, he was a street hustler from the projects who rapped about what he knew - and was very, very good at it. Skeptics who've never cared for Jigga's crossover efforts should turn to his debut, Reasonable Doubt, as the deserving source of his legend. Reasonable Doubt is often compared to another New York landmark, Nas' Illmatic: A hungry young MC with a substantial underground buzz drops an instant cIassic of a debut, detailing his experiences on the streets with disarming honesty, and writing some of the most acrobatic rhymes heard in quite some time. (Plus, neither artist has since approached the street cred of his debut, The Blueprint notwithstanding.) Parts of the persona that Jay-Z would ride to superstardom are already in place: He's cocky bordering on arrogant, but playful and witty, and exudes an effortless, unaffected cool throughout. And even if he's rapping about rising to the top instead of being there, his material obsessions are already apparent. Jay-Z the hustler isn't too different from Jay-Z the rapper: Hustling is about living the high life and getting everything you can, not violence or tortured glamour or cheap thrills. In that sense, the album's defining cut might not be one of the better-known singles - "Can't Knock the Hustle," "Dead Presidents II," "Feelin' It," or the Foxy Brown duet, "Ain't No ***** It just might be the brief "22 Two's," which not only demonstrates Jay-Z's extraordinary talent as a pure freestyIe rapper, but also preaches a subtle message through its club hostess: Bad behavior gets in the way of making money. Perhaps that's why Jay-Z waxes reflective, not enthusiastic, about the darker side of the streets; songs like "D'Evils" and "Regrets" are some of the most personal and philosophical he's ever recorded. It's that depth that helps Reasonable Doubt rank as one of the finest albums of New York's hip-hop renaissance of the '90s.

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#2 Colt45fool
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overview is from all music btw. clearly a classic

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ya
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#5 189245455704665724390135605497
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agreed. cIassic

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#6 Agnidev
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[QUOTE="iHeartCali"]yaWorstGameEver

Yes I agree it's cIassic.

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even though i dont think my opinion counts yet? :roll:
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#8 Colt45fool
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oui

even though i dont think my opinion counts yet? :roll:
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disqualified because of elpooz, and toriko's college dropout thread.

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#9 TheHimura
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yeah, I was gonna nominate this cuz it's a crime that it hasn't been voted in yet but you got there first.
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Yes.

Possibly my fav of all time.

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[QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="iHeartCali"]yaAgnidev
agreed. cIassic

Word. It's a cIassic for sure.

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#12 Toriko42
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This album is trash...

 

I guess I can still...ugh...Answer is

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yes yes yes

 

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#14 Apocalypse33
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hell yes, my favorite Jay-Z album, with my favorite Jay-Z song.
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Yes. Fave joints are Bring It On, Feelin It and Dead Presidents. I'm still not the biggest fan of Ain't No ***** but outside of that every song owns...
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Yes. Fave joints are Bring It On, Feelin It and Dead Presidents. I'm still not the biggest fan of Ain't No ***** but outside of that every song owns...Orlando_Magic

Word, same here.

 Overall definite classic even if Ain't No ***** is skippable. Easily his best album. Favorite joint is Brint It On.

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#17 Colt45fool
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no love for 22 two's? thats my ISH.

also, i can dig on 'aint no ninja'...no skippables on this disc.

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#18 Apocalypse33
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no love for 22 two's? thats my ISH.

also, i can dig on 'aint no ninja'...no skippables on this disc.

 

Colt45fool
aint no ninja definitely grows, still think Dead Presidents 2 is the creme de la creme
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#19 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

no love for 22 two's? thats my ISH.

also, i can dig on 'aint no ninja'...no skippables on this disc.

 

Apocalypse33
aint no ninja definitely grows, still think Dead Presidents 2 is the creme de la creme

Dead Presidents is the creme de la creme of Hip Hop, period.
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#20 Lakersman2000
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no love for 22 two's? thats my ISH.

also, i can dig on 'aint no ninja'...no skippables on this disc.

 

Colt45fool
mos def......
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#21 Anti-Venom
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This is Jay-Z at his best, gotta go with a yes
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#22 djwestwood
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Yes, standout tracks have to be: 22 Two's, Can I Live, Regrets and Dead Presidents.
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#23 hittin
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yep. his best album i think.
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#24 iHeartCali
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Ain't No Ninja is dope...
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#25 elpooz
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yeah ^... i really like the hook on that song for some reason.

yes... obviously. can i live = goat song. no beating that slice of genius...

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#26 mowz00
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another no debate classic thread...of course it is
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HOLD Up. Your ranking the best Hip hop albums of ALL Time and you put JAY-Z' Reasonable Doubt at 120. The Best Rapper alive and all time. His best work at # 120. This cd is top 4 at lease. The metaphors he uses and subliminal messages he uese are just decoded . The Album is timeless. From the first opening line and song "Can't Knock the Hustle", to the very witty " 22 Twos', to verbal assult og jay-z and Biggie on " Brooklyn Finest" and the introspective "Regrets". IT is the ultimate album that protray a drug dealers life and emotion. You need to recheck this and listen to this album again .
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HOLD Up. Your ranking the best Hip hop albums of ALL Time and you put JAY-Z' Reasonable Doubt at 120. The Best Rapper alive and all time. His best work at # 120. This cd is top 4 at lease. The metaphors he uses and subliminal messages he uese are just decoded . The Album is timeless. From the first opening line and song "Can't Knock the Hustle", to the very witty " 22 Twos', to verbal assult og jay-z and Biggie on " Brooklyn Finest" and the introspective "Regrets". IT is the ultimate album that protray a drug dealers life and emotion. You need to recheck this and listen to this album again .CheDrummond
relax. 120 is simply the nomination number, not a ranking.
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HOLD Up. Your ranking the best Hip hop albums of ALL Time and you put JAY-Z' Reasonable Doubt at 120. The Best Rapper alive and all time. His best work at # 120. This cd is top 4 at lease. The metaphors he uses and subliminal messages he uese are just decoded . The Album is timeless. From the first opening line and song "Can't Knock the Hustle", to the very witty " 22 Twos', to verbal assult og jay-z and Biggie on " Brooklyn Finest" and the introspective "Regrets". IT is the ultimate album that protray a drug dealers life and emotion. You need to recheck this and listen to this album again .CheDrummond


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HOLD Up. Your ranking the best Hip hop albums of ALL Time and you put JAY-Z' Reasonable Doubt at 120. The Best Rapper alive and all time. His best work at # 120. This cd is top 4 at lease. The metaphors he uses and subliminal messages he uese are just decoded . The Album is timeless. From the first opening line and song "Can't Knock the Hustle", to the very witty " 22 Twos', to verbal assult og jay-z and Biggie on " Brooklyn Finest" and the introspective "Regrets". IT is the ultimate album that protray a drug dealers life and emotion. You need to recheck this and listen to this album again .CheDrummond
lol

and yes, of course.
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HOLD Up. Your ranking the best Hip hop albums of ALL Time and you put JAY-Z' Reasonable Doubt at 120. The Best Rapper alive and all time. His best work at # 120. This cd is top 4 at lease. The metaphors he uses and subliminal messages he uese are just decoded . The Album is timeless. From the first opening line and song "Can't Knock the Hustle", to the very witty " 22 Twos', to verbal assult og jay-z and Biggie on " Brooklyn Finest" and the introspective "Regrets". IT is the ultimate album that protray a drug dealers life and emotion. You need to recheck this and listen to this album again .CheDrummond

:lol:

Damn!

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HOLD Up. Your ranking the best Hip hop albums of ALL Time and you put JAY-Z' Reasonable Doubt at 120. The Best Rapper alive and all time. His best work at # 120. This cd is top 4 at lease. The metaphors he uses and subliminal messages he uese are just decoded . The Album is timeless. From the first opening line and song "Can't Knock the Hustle", to the very witty " 22 Twos', to verbal assult og jay-z and Biggie on " Brooklyn Finest" and the introspective "Regrets". IT is the ultimate album that protray a drug dealers life and emotion. You need to recheck this and listen to this album again .CheDrummond

lol

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#33 DrCoCoPiMp
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Yeah but illmatic is way better
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#34 elpooz
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RD isn't even top 4 for me... it might even miss out on the top 10 if i made a list.

dude needs to chill ^

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#35 iHeartCali
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RD isn't even top 4 for me... it might even miss out on the top 10 if i made a list.

dude needs to chill ^

elpooz
Dude your Top 10 probably sucks...
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#37 forgetwatyahear
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Why is this thread even alive.......yes of course 

and colt i think the reason no one nominated it cause it's on the banner so people probably assumed OTB thought it was a cIassicÂ