Classic Album Thread #68: Gravediggaz; 6 Feet Deep

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#1 WizengamotX
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Gravediggaz; 6 Feet Deep

This is Off the Books: Anything and Everything Hip Hop's c:assic Album Thread #68:

6 Feet Deep is a sick joke. A lethally great and a ghoulishly comical one, but a deranged and sadistic prank nonetheless. Eschatological, gruesome, paranoid, and obsessed with death (both imposing and experiencing it), the debut from eeeeevil supergroup Gravediggaz lands somewhere in the nexus at which the bizarro universe of legendary producer Prince Paul -- who oversees the whole project while wearing the mask and wielding the shovel of the Undertaker for the occasion -- crashes headlong into RZA's dingy, farcical New York City, a haunted, inverse Oz where graffiti meets science fiction meets splatter flick in an unholy alliance that finds Freddy Krueger fiendishly pursuing the turf gangs out of Walter Hill's The Warriors down 125th and Elm Streets. Throw in a few crazed variations on Medieval torture techniques, a few too many midnight kung-fu screenings, and a few fantasies of bodily damage so giddily, demonically cartoonish that they would make Wile E. Coyote lick his lips with mischievous envy, and you have this brilliantly strange, whimsically jagged horror film in song (critics unofficially dubbed the sty:e horrorcore) with its maimed and gnawed tongue firmly planted in cheek. If you can stomach the buckets of lyrical blood spilled herein, there is no end to the gory highlights, from the running-in-place nightmare of "Nowhere to Run, Nowhere to Hide" to the psychotically nauseous angel-dust high of "Defective Trip (Trippin')" to the willfully objectionable "1-800 Suicide" and self-destructive "Bang Your Head," all of them terribly catchy. As a bonus, 6 Feet Deep is sure to offend the sensibilities of all middle-aged family-values crusaders and conservative-type politicians -- vampires of a different sort -- who aren't in on the joke. Overseas, the album was titled N:ggamortis. With its combined allusion to mortality and example of wicked wordplay, it would have been even more apropos. Whatever it goes by, though, the album can be resurrected again and again without losing any of its devilishly good potency. (http://www.allmusic.com/)
This is the Hip Hop super group that created the 'Horrorcore' subgenre of East Coast Hip Hop / Rap: Prince Paul (The Undertaker), Frukwan (The Gatekeeper), Too Poetic (The Grym Reaper) and RZA (The Rzarector); Raekwon the Chef's Only Built 4 Cuban Linx popularized 'Mafioso' East Coast Hip Hop / Rap, as did other Wu-Tang-Killa-Beez albums for 'Hardcore' East Coast Hip Hop / Rap--with a Shao-Lin twist. Vote this album a 'yes,' kids.
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#2 Foolz3h
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Yes indeed.
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Absolutely.
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#4 king23_
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YES easily. An amazing album.
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#5 HaSheeSh_basic
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Couldn't you wait a WHILE until the voting for bradley's album ended :|
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Couldn't you wait a WHILE until the voting for bradley's album ended :|HaSheeSh_basic
what he said

i would say yes though.
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#7 SuperSaiyanLink
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Yes.
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#8 strtballer516
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Yah.
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#9 Improbus
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I've actually never listened to this...I guess it's about time I should?
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#10 bradleybhoy
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Coincidentally I just listened to this for the first time yesterday. Definitely a strong album but I felt there were a few weaker tracks. I'll give a few more listens before voting.
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This is an album I really want to hear. I can't vote but I'm going to check it out.

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This was made when everything the RZA touched was gold. It's a shame that the second album wasn't even close, but man.... this album is really great from start to finish. Horror rap that isn't corny ftw.
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This was made when everything the RZA touched was gold. It's a shame that the second album wasn't even close, but man.... this album is really great from start to finish. Horror rap that isn't corny ftw.Giangio
That's because the second album wasn't trying to be like the first, they took an entirely different artistic approach. As for the Horror rap, there was a rare presence of it anyways, so I don't see how you'd label it corny anyways (if that's what you were implying), however...Fairytalez is nothing close to being corny. Not to mention that their lyricisim far surpasses 90% of what you'd find in their debute.

6 Feet Deep still captures that dark and energetic mood that was lacking in their second album (not that they needed it anyways, but it would be nice).

I vote classic, still prefer the 2nd album though.

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[QUOTE="Giangio"]This was made when everything the RZA touched was gold. It's a shame that the second album wasn't even close, but man.... this album is really great from start to finish. Horror rap that isn't corny ftw.HaSheeSh_basic

That's because the second album wasn't trying to be like the first, they took an entirely different artistic approach. As for the Horror rap, there was a rare presence of it anyways, so I don't see how you'd label it corny anyways (if that's what you were implying), however...Fairytalez is nothing close to being corny. Not to mention that their lyricisim far surpasses 90% of what you'd find in their debute.

6 Feet Deep still captures that dark and energetic mood that was lacking in their second album (not that they needed it anyways, but it would be nice).

I vote classic, still prefer the 2nd album though.

I was referring to necro/cage type horror rap. Obviously their second album wasn't supposed to be anything like the first. That's why I didn't like it. They went on to become what pretty much all of the "wu-affiliate" artists are. If you enjoy NOI rambling, good for you. It was that dark energetic mood and subject matter that made their first album stand out as a classic to me.
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#15 HaSheeSh_basic
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[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]

[QUOTE="Giangio"]This was made when everything the RZA touched was gold. It's a shame that the second album wasn't even close, but man.... this album is really great from start to finish. Horror rap that isn't corny ftw.Giangio

That's because the second album wasn't trying to be like the first, they took an entirely different artistic approach. As for the Horror rap, there was a rare presence of it anyways, so I don't see how you'd label it corny anyways (if that's what you were implying), however...Fairytalez is nothing close to being corny. Not to mention that their lyricisim far surpasses 90% of what you'd find in their debute.

6 Feet Deep still captures that dark and energetic mood that was lacking in their second album (not that they needed it anyways, but it would be nice).

I vote classic, still prefer the 2nd album though.

I was referring to necro/cage type horror rap. Obviously their second album wasn't supposed to be anything like the first. That's why I didn't like it. They went on to become what pretty much all of the "wu-affiliate" artists are. If you enjoy NOI rambling, good for you. It was that dark energetic mood and subject matter that made their first album stand out as a classic to me.

The NOI "ramblings" weren't heavy which is good. Either way, I learned to tolerate it after hearing it to a similar extent in Rakim, Black Star, and Nas albums for instance...
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#16 HaSheeSh_basic
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oh, and 1-800-Suicide is the best Gravediggaz song.
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#17 djwestwood
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Yeah, I'd say its a classic but it does have a few weak tracks. Damn I thought more people had heard this dopeness.
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#18 WizengamotX
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[QUOTE="Giangio"][QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]

[QUOTE="Giangio"]This was made when everything the RZA touched was gold. It's a shame that the second album wasn't even close, but man.... this album is really great from start to finish. Horror rap that isn't corny ftw.HaSheeSh_basic

That's because the second album wasn't trying to be like the first, they took an entirely different artistic approach. As for the Horror rap, there was a rare presence of it anyways, so I don't see how you'd label it corny anyways (if that's what you were implying), however...Fairytalez is nothing close to being corny. Not to mention that their lyricisim far surpasses 90% of what you'd find in their debute.

6 Feet Deep still captures that dark and energetic mood that was lacking in their second album (not that they needed it anyways, but it would be nice).

I vote classic, still prefer the 2nd album though.

I was referring to necro/cage type horror rap. Obviously their second album wasn't supposed to be anything like the first. That's why I didn't like it. They went on to become what pretty much all of the "wu-affiliate" artists are. If you enjoy NOI rambling, good for you. It was that dark energetic mood and subject matter that made their first album stand out as a classic to me.

The NOI "ramblings" weren't heavy which is good. Either way, I learned to tolerate it after hearing it to a similar extent in Rakim, Black Star, and Nas albums for instance...

You both seem, to me, to have overlooked the critical difference between the two albums: the first album attempts a more "corny" tone, whereas, to the opposite end, the second album attempts a more serious tone--artistically a mistake, in my opinion. Posing as real vampires and "gravediggaz," the second creation of Gravediggaz becomes more "corny" than the first, and in a bad way.