Eminem - Recovery discussion thread (UPDATE: Em Set For 750,000 First Week)

[QUOTE="elpooz"]

Lol at Toriko saying all of SH sounds the same... they don't at all. Ortiz and Budden sound nothing like Crooked or Royce... Royce and Crooked can sound somewhat similar at times, but not often.

And I don't really see why people make that "Crooked has no album out" argument... his mixtapes are dope, his freestyles are dope, his stuff with SH is dope, etc... why does it matter? He gives us good music to listen to, period. I'd rather have that than the 1,000 rappers who put out horrible albums. 

Mkavanaugh77

Wow, Elpooz is the man on this one

Do you really need a album to enjoy a rappers music?

I sure dont, as long as the quality is there, the effort , the passion, i can respect it.

Sure i like to listen to a full album, but I enjoy listening to rappers putting out music on the web to listen to.

[QUOTE="Demonic_Jin"]The hooks kill it for me, they're so pop...he's going for the 14 year old girl market now -.-elpooz

... How are the hooks pop? That's the last way I would describe them...... and even if that is an apt description for them, that doesn't mean he is going for the "14 year old girl market" with this album. No song on here even remotely seems like something one would record and go "hey, I think 14 year olds would love this!" That's not to say that these songs wouldn't appeal to people of that age/gender match, but rather that it's clear that he did not record these songs with the intention to please that audience and that these songs simply are not ones that would appeal primarily or even strongly to that audience... 

I don't know about you, but I know a lot of the girls at my school would hear that and think 'omg thats so deep I so know what he's saying' 

[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="Demonic_Jin"]The hooks kill it for me, they're so pop...he's going for the 14 year old girl market now -.-Demonic_Jin

... How are the hooks pop? That's the last way I would describe them...... and even if that is an apt description for them, that doesn't mean he is going for the "14 year old girl market" with this album. No song on here even remotely seems like something one would record and go "hey, I think 14 year olds would love this!" That's not to say that these songs wouldn't appeal to people of that age/gender match, but rather that it's clear that he did not record these songs with the intention to please that audience and that these songs simply are not ones that would appeal primarily or even strongly to that audience... 

I don't know about you, but I know a lot of the girls at my school would hear that and think 'omg thats so deep I so know what he's saying' 

[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="Demonic_Jin"]The hooks kill it for me, they're so pop...he's going for the 14 year old girl market now -.-Demonic_Jin

... How are the hooks pop? That's the last way I would describe them...... and even if that is an apt description for them, that doesn't mean he is going for the "14 year old girl market" with this album. No song on here even remotely seems like something one would record and go "hey, I think 14 year olds would love this!" That's not to say that these songs wouldn't appeal to people of that age/gender match, but rather that it's clear that he did not record these songs with the intention to please that audience and that these songs simply are not ones that would appeal primarily or even strongly to that audience...

I don't know about you, but I know a lot of the girls at my school would hear that and think 'omg thats so deep I so know what he's saying'

LOL,of all the things girls who don't listen to much rap say,that comment annoys me the most.

"*Gasp* Have you heard Fireworks by Drake? Ugh that song is so deep he's so real"

Thats when I cock the shotgun and ask them head or chest.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

Lol at Toriko saying all of SH sounds the same... they don't at all. Ortiz and Budden sound nothing like Crooked or Royce... Royce and Crooked can sound somewhat similar at times, but not often.

And I don't really see why people make that "Crooked has no album out" argument... his mixtapes are dope, his freestyles are dope, his stuff with SH is dope, etc... why does it matter? He gives us good music to listen to, period. I'd rather have that than the 1,000 rappers who put out horrible albums. 

Mkavanaugh77

Wow, Elpooz is the man on this one

Do you really need a album to enjoy a rappers music?

I sure dont, as long as the quality is there, the effort , the passion, i can respect it.

Sure i like to listen to a full album, but I enjoy listening to rappers putting out music on the web to listen to.

So who is a better rapper

Crooked I or Drake?

Crookeds going nowhere

And even then, So Far Gone > Any EP Crooked I has put out

And yet...He still can't put out his LP. He's been in the game for more than a decade and no one wants to release a Crooked I album.

Even Yung Berg has a debut LP.

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

And yet...He still can't put out his LP. He's been in the game for more than a decade and no one wants to release a Crooked I album.

Even Yung Berg has a debut LP.

 

Mkavanaugh77

Soulja boy has a album out too, do you think he is better than Crooked I?

When Crooked I puts out an album, I'll give the dude a pat on the back. Otherwise he's just another fish in the sea. 

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

And yet...He still can't put out his LP. He's been in the game for more than a decade and no one wants to release a Crooked I album.

Even Yung Berg has a debut LP.

 

Mkavanaugh77

Soulja boy has a album out too, do you think he is better than Crooked I?

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"][QUOTE="Toriko42"]

And yet...He still can't put out his LP. He's been in the game for more than a decade and no one wants to release a Crooked I album.

Even Yung Berg has a debut LP.

 

Mkavanaugh77

Soulja boy has a album out too, do you think he is better than Crooked I?

Sure they can, ive never heard that rule before

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"][QUOTE="Toriko42"]

And yet...He still can't put out his LP. He's been in the game for more than a decade and no one wants to release a Crooked I album.

Even Yung Berg has a debut LP.

 

Mkavanaugh77

Soulja boy has a album out too, do you think he is better than Crooked I?

Sure they can, ive never heard that rule before

Crooked I

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

Lol at Toriko saying all of SH sounds the same... they don't at all. Ortiz and Budden sound nothing like Crooked or Royce... Royce and Crooked can sound somewhat similar at times, but not often.

And I don't really see why people make that "Crooked has no album out" argument... his mixtapes are dope, his freestyles are dope, his stuff with SH is dope, etc... why does it matter? He gives us good music to listen to, period. I'd rather have that than the 1,000 rappers who put out horrible albums. 

Mkavanaugh77

Wow, Elpooz is the man on this one

Do you really need a album to enjoy a rappers music?

I sure dont, as long as the quality is there, the effort , the passion, i can respect it.

Sure i like to listen to a full album, but I enjoy listening to rappers putting out music on the web to listen to.

So who is a better rapper

Crooked I or Drake?

whos the better rapper? Black Thought or Crooked I? and why?

Anyone who doesn't say Black Thought...I feel bad for them.

Black Thought has never made a bad album, fact.

The Roots are the best band in Hip Hop, fact.

Anyone who doesn't say Black Thought...I feel bad for them.

Black Thought has never made a bad album, fact.

The Roots are the best band in Hip Hop, fact.

Toriko42

Black Thought and The Roots do the Jimmy Fallon show...And they record their album when they have time.

Despite these conditions, they still managed to make one of their best albums in years.

I mean come on...

Crooked I killed Eminem on his own ****Mkavanaugh77

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

[QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]Crooked I killed Eminem on his own ****Mkavanaugh77

Bar 4 Bar Crooked I wins

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

[QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]Crooked I killed Eminem on his own ****mems_1224

I remember the arguments me and LM used to have, that ish would go for pages, none of this nonsense like this though.  Jeez, I think I lost some IQ points.

W.T.P. is actually kinda fun. Y'all haturz. :cry:

But yeah the album is like a 7.5/10 for me. The choruses make it a tad repetative, but there's some dope songs here and there. Almost Famous is just crazy.

:lol:

everyone here is taking this album in....yall love it

I just re-listened to this album . . . not a good idea lol I disliked almost everything :( Almost Famous and Talkin' 2 Myself were the only tracks I nodded my head to.fat_rob

I'm not feeling this album much anymore either. I kind of got bored with it.

There's still bangers, Talkin' To Myself, Cold Wind Blows, Almost Famous, No Love, Cinderella Man, but that's about it...Album needed to be cut down a bit

Personally I still enjoy it. It's just not as cohesive as his other good albums, plus the production is repetative, so are the choruses. Still good overall.

Favourites: Cold Wind Blows, Talkin 2 Myself, Going Through Changes, Cinderella Man, Almost Famous. I also liked Seduction, Nove Love, Space Bound, 25 to Life, but at times they felt out of place or had things that really let them down. Like the chorus to You're Never Over. What the hell was he thinking?

After giving the album a few more listens, though some songs I've heard more than others - favourite tracks have to be:

Almost Famous; Talkin 2 Myself; Not Afraid; Love the Way You Lie and No Love. I'm not a big fan of Cinderella Man, I don't understand why so many people like it. I also like both the bonus tracks. Overall, it's much better than Relapse, IMO.

As for his sales, I'm not surprised, he obviously has a very strong and loyal fan base, dude's never gonna sell less than 500k in a week :lol:

After giving the album a few more listens, though some songs I've heard more than others - favourite tracks have to be:

Almost Famous; Talkin 2 Myself; Not Afraid; Love the Way You Lie and No Love. I'm not a big fan of Cinderella Man, I don't understand why so many people like it. I also like both the bonus tracks. Overall, it's much better than Relapse, IMO.

As for his sales, I'm not surprised, he obviously has a very strong and loyal fan base, dude's never gonna sell less than 500k in a week :lol:

djwestwood

I like Space Bound as well.