If You've Heard HHID...Is Hip Hop Still Dead?

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#1 DaDukies
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hell naw :) album is amazing
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#2 Knife_Run
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Album is hot, but it won't change anything.
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#3 Black-Demon
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Album is hot, but it won't change anything.Knife_Run


It won't. Ownage albums have already been released,so it's not a "savior" album.
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#4 --n00b--
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No it's not, far from it you just gotta know where to go for good hip hop.

Album owns hard, AOTY!

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#5 laraza7682300
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The album owns, but it won't change anything. Hip-hop ain't dead anyway, Lupe, Murs, The Roots, Method Man, Jay-Z, Clipse, all came out with ownage albums this year.
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i love that song with kanye
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#7 DaDukies
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oh man...i've listened to it all the way through about 3 full times now, and it's definitely up there with Stillmatic. I can see it surpassing it after some time too :) definitely AOTY
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#8 The-Bulldozer
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Man I think it's close to Illmatic. Or it will be. I been listenin' to it for a week now.
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#9 Knife_Run
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Man I think it's close to Illmatic. Or it will be. I been listenin' to it for a week now.The-Bulldozer
lol, you can say it's close to Illmatic when you've been bumping it for 10 years.
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[QUOTE="The-Bulldozer"]Man I think it's close to Illmatic. Or it will be. I been listenin' to it for a week now.Knife_Run
lol, you can say it's close to Illmatic when you've been bumping it for 10 years.

Or atleast you actually heard all other NaS albums.
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#11 longdongsilvr
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I don't know if it will "change" anything, but as long as we keep getting the caliber albums we've been getting the past 2-3 months I'll be alright. And damnnnnnnn, Kanye's production on this album is insane. The man is a Great producer.
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#12 Eragon_11
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Man I think it's close to Illmatic. Or it will be. I been listenin' to it for a week now.The-Bulldozer
Its no illmatic....another illmatic would require the album to sound like illmatic like...illatic-esque production. HHID sounds way too modern and poppy for me to consider it close to illmatic... Nas will never re-do illmatic..
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[QUOTE="Knife_Run"][QUOTE="The-Bulldozer"]Man I think it's close to Illmatic. Or it will be. I been listenin' to it for a week now.HaSheeSh_basic
lol, you can say it's close to Illmatic when you've been bumping it for 10 years.

Or atleast you actually heard all other NaS albums.

I heard all of them except that Nastradamus record.

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[QUOTE="The-Bulldozer"]Man I think it's close to Illmatic. Or it will be. I been listenin' to it for a week now.Eragon_11
Its no illmatic....another illmatic would require the album to sound like illmatic like...illatic-esque production. HHID sounds way too modern and poppy for me to consider it close to illmatic... Nas will never re-do illmatic..

There's a chance of that. If he gets DJ Premier to produce.

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Nas will never make another Illmatic unless he goes back in time. He doesn't live in Queensbridge anymore and he's 12 years older, it's just not gonna happen.
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#16 Black-Demon
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Nas will never make another Illmatic unless he goes back in time. He doesn't live in Queensbridge anymore and he's 12 years older, it's just not gonna happen.bradleybhoy


Took the words right out of my mouth.

Thats why it annoys me when people expect a legendary new albums from artists that are much older than the time they first started rapping.
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#17 Eragon_11
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[QUOTE="Eragon_11"][QUOTE="The-Bulldozer"]Man I think it's close to Illmatic. Or it will be. I been listenin' to it for a week now.The-Bulldozer

Its no illmatic....another illmatic would require the album to sound like illmatic like...illatic-esque production. HHID sounds way too modern and poppy for me to consider it close to illmatic... Nas will never re-do illmatic..

There's a chance of that. If he gets DJ Premier to produce.

I see no premo on HHID though. I shouldve been more precise. I meant the idea of HHID becoming another illmatic is impossible to me.
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#18 Escobar
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[QUOTE="The-Bulldozer"]Man I think it's close to Illmatic. Or it will be. I been listenin' to it for a week now.Eragon_11
Its no illmatic....another illmatic would require the album to sound like illmatic like...illatic-esque production. HHID sounds way too modern and poppy for me to consider it close to illmatic... Nas will never re-do illmatic..

Sorry, but that's rather silly. Are you telling me that in your mind there will never be an album that comes close to Illmatic because no album will ever sound like it was produced in 1992-4? That's silly. Everything sounds "modern"...it's damn near 2007. The only production that doesn't sound "modern" is made by producers that conscientiously are trying to make music that sounds like old music. The world we live in is different. I love Little Brother music, I love 9th production. But they realize that they need to evolve, peep the MCs working with different producers & 9th trying to perfect & expand on his production style on the Murs' albums & Black is Back. The charm of Illmatic is that it has consistently good-great production that sounds like it should be on the same album yet each song sounds different, with an MC spitting fire & riding each track's beat perfectly, while not coming off as being contrived or fake. Not that it sounds a certain way. If that were the case Ready to Die, 36 Chambers, OB4CL or Paid in Full can't even be mentioned in the same breath; none of these albums (maybe PiF a little) sound anything like Illmatic. You can't tell me albums like Reflection Eternal or Blueprint aren't classic albums that aren't in some folks mind at least in the same stratosphere as illmatic. Give me Saigon & Just Blaze at their very best for 12-15 albums without any commercialization, I'll give you a classic that is near illmatic.
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#19 Pyro
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haven't heard it yet...
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If an album like this, went 10x platnium, and MTV, and BET along with the radio BUMPed the singles, hard...and then another dope album came out, and did something similair...then hip hop would be alive. Why? Because commercial success would mean, making good music 8)

If that ever happens, I can die, and go to heaven.

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#21 bambidurojay
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The dopeness of this album cannot be measured .I have listened to it 10 times over and still havent skipped any song.
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#22 Scuervo
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The album is staright, it's one of the few albums that have a consistent second half...
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#23 Ponsardin
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haven't heard it yet...Pyro
Me neither...
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#24 Eragon_11
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Ive heard better - many albums were better than it from 06 I feel. APOS, Servants in Heaven,Kings in Hell, Game Theory...all better.
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#25 DaDukies
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APOS, Game Theory...all better.Eragon_11
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#26 Lakersman2000
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its been growing on me somewhat but its still a major dissapointment black republican , let there be light (aside from the guy singing which i cant stand ) , blunt ashes , cant forget about you .... not many more . how ppl can call this a classic is retarded . this album is far from classic . imo he only has two classics . lost tapes and you already know the other one. streets disciple>hip hop is dead . this is one of his worst albums imo .. ... illmatic>lost tapes>stillmatic>it was written>streets disciple> i am>gods son>hip hop is dead > nastradamus.
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#27 Eragon_11
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its been growing on me somewhat but its still a major dissapointment black republican , let there be light (aside from the guy singing which i cant stand ) , blunt ashes , cant forget about you .... not many more . how ppl can call this a classic is retarded . this album is far from classic . imo he only has two classics . lost tapes and you already know the other one. streets disciple>hip hop is dead . this is one of his worst albums imo .. ... illmatic>lost tapes>stillmatic>it was written>streets disciple> i am>gods son>hip hop is dead > nastradamus. Lakersman2000
Having not heard Nastradamus, but all the others, I too think it really isnt great. Im not sure whether I would say SD >> HHID, but I do prefer the beats on SD.
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#28 familyguy77
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[QUOTE="Lakersman2000"]its been growing on me somewhat but its still a major dissapointment black republican , let there be light (aside from the guy singing which i cant stand ) , blunt ashes , cant forget about you .... not many more . how ppl can call this a classic is retarded . this album is far from classic . imo he only has two classics . lost tapes and you already know the other one. streets disciple>hip hop is dead . this is one of his worst albums imo .. ... illmatic>lost tapes>stillmatic>it was written>streets disciple> i am>gods son>hip hop is dead > nastradamus. Eragon_11
Having not heard Nastradamus, but all the others, I too think it really isnt great. Im not sure whether I would say SD >> HHID, but I do prefer the beats on SD.

I agree with LM, I like HHID, but SD is better imo....I think HHID is about on par with I Am..., just an average album. Nas' three best albums imo are Illmatic, It Was Written, and Lost Tapes.