Joe Budden vs. Cassidy vs. Lil Wayne vs. Saigon vs. Papoose

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#1 Orlando_Magic
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Who is the best outta these???

Joe Budden


Reason for the Hype: Joe Budden is hyped mostly for his mixtapes Mood Muzik & Mood Muzik 2, and various other songs he drops not on albums like the Crazy (Remix). He is especially good at getting his emotions across through his lyrics while still having good punchlines.

Listening Material:
Joe Budden- "Dumb Out"
Joe Budden- "Broken Wings"
Joe Budden- "Crazy" (Remix)
Joe Budden- "Old School Mouse"
Joe Budden- "Outcast"

What to look out for: His next and often delayed album The Growth, and the Mood Muzik 3 mixtape


Cassidy



Reason for the Hype: Cassidy is hyped for his freest.yles and his ability as a battle rapper. Though his true nature is a battle rapper, he's shown that he can still make successful hits with songs like I'm A Hustla.

Listening Material:
Cassidy- 11 minute Hot 97 freest.yle
Cassidy- "Aim For the Head"
Cassidy- 8 minute freest.yle
Cassidy vs. Freeway battle Part 1/ Cassidy vs. Freeway battle Part 2
Cassidy- "The Problem vs. The Hustla"

What to look out for: His next album It Is What It Is due out Summer 2007

 

Lil Wayne

Reason For the Hype: Wayne has dropped two good albums already in Tha Carter and The Carter II, and he is relentless in putting out material... it seems like he always has another mixtape coming out. He is mainly a punchline/braggadocio rapper with a lot of swagger and nice flow, but does do different songs like "I Miss My Dawgs," "Georgia....Bush," and "Shooter" once in a while as well. Notable artists like Jay-Z, Kanye West, and Andre 3000 have all praised his ability.

Listening Material:
Lil Wayne- "Show Me What You Got" (Remix)
Lil Wayne- "Sportscenter"
Lil Wayne- "Sky's the Limit"
Lil Wayne- "Fly In"/ "Carter II"/ "Fly Out"
Lil Wayne- "Georgia... Bush"

What to look out for: His upcoming album Tha Carter III and all of various mixtapes



Saigon



Reason for the hype: Saigon is hyped for his lyrics and substance. He's more than just another punchline rapper on the block and his words carry a lot of weight. Mixtapes like the Yardfather, Welcome to Saigon hosted by DJ Drama, and the Return of the Yardfather have earned him much praise. Artists like Jay-Z, Just Blaze, and Q-Tip have all praised his ability.

Listening Material:
Saigon- "Pop Quiz"
Saigon feat. Kool G Rap- "P"
Saigon feat. Tray Songz- "Pain in My Life"
Saigon- "Color Purple"
Saigon- "Dreams"

What to look out for: His next album Greatest Story Never Told entirely produced by Just Blaze



Papoose



Reason For the Hype: Pap is hyped for his punchlines and multisyllable way of rhyming. He has never dropped an album yet so the hype is based solely off of his mixtapes, such as Mixtape Murder, and his freest.yles. Many people say Papoose reminds them of Big L.

Listening Material:
Papoose- "Alphabetical Slaughter"
Papoose- "Hot 97 Freest.yle"/"Welcome"
Papoose- "Hail Mary"
Papoose- "Hustle Hard'
Papoose- "Monopoly"

What to look out for: His upcoming album The Nacirema Dream

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#2 fat_rob
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Budden easily...Mood Muzik 2>>>their mommas
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Budden easily...Mood Muzik 2>>>their mommasfat_rob

Word,although Papoose comes close imo. 

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#4 Apocalypse33
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i dont know, probably Budden, and Papoose reminds me of Franklin the Turtle
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#5 damelokidd124
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Cass for me, followed by Budden...
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Add game in this :P jk jks, back to the question, Joey/Saigon>>>>>>The other guys.

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#7 tmac200913
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Papoose is easily my Favorite of all these

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Budden and Siagon
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#9 TheHimura
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Papoose or Budden.
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#10 makaveli_89
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Budden of course...Mood Muzik 2 owned hard and so will Mood Muzik 3....its comin out next month.
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No competition. Budden. Straight up. Followed by Saigon and Pap.
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#12 HaSheeSh_basic
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who the f*** voted for Lil Wayne ??? :|
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who the f*** voted for Lil Wayne ??? :|
HaSheeSh_basic
lol 2 people did

I chose Papoose but it is a tie for me  with Pap and Budden.

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#14 Improbus
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right now weezy, im not feelin budden anymore, and papoose is in second with me.
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#15 Colt45fool
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Saigon > Budden > Pap > Cassidy > Weezy
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#16 Orlando_Magic
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Add game in this :P jk jks, back to the question, Joey/Saigon>>>>>>The other guys.

Aljosa23

I wanted to add Game as the 6th but you can only have 5 people in a poll. I was thinking of adding Joell Ortiz to the mix too. 

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Weezy.
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#18 Orlando_Magic
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Budden easily...Mood Muzik 2>>>their mommasfat_rob

I wouldn't say easily, but I like Mood Muzik 2 better than anything else released by all these artists. But we'll see what happens when Greatest Story Never Told and Nacirema Dream drop, if they ever do.... 

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Add game in this :P jk jks, back to the question, Joey/Saigon>>>>>>The other guys.

Orlando_Magic

I wanted to add Game as the 6th but you can only have 5 people in a poll. I was thinking of adding Joell Ortiz to the mix too.

You could have had them replaced with Lil Wang and Cassidy (lmao 0 votes)
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Add game in this :P jk jks, back to the question, Joey/Saigon>>>>>>The other guys.

HaSheeSh_basic

I wanted to add Game as the 6th but you can only have 5 people in a poll. I was thinking of adding Joell Ortiz to the mix too.

You could have had them replaced with Lil Wang and Cassidy (lmao 0 votes)

damelokidd picked Cass, he just never voted in the poll ;) 

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[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Add game in this :P jk jks, back to the question, Joey/Saigon>>>>>>The other guys.

Orlando_Magic

I wanted to add Game as the 6th but you can only have 5 people in a poll. I was thinking of adding Joell Ortiz to the mix too.

You could have had them replaced with Lil Wang and Cassidy (lmao 0 votes)

damelokidd picked Cass, he just never voted in the poll ;)

I noticed the Lil Wang votes are increasing. Seriously, if he ends up winning this poll...I'm leaving OTB forever.
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#22 The-Bulldozer
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I would pick Saigon
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Budden as i've heard more of him than the rest.
And from what I have heard he's better.

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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Add game in this :P jk jks, back to the question, Joey/Saigon>>>>>>The other guys.

HaSheeSh_basic

I wanted to add Game as the 6th but you can only have 5 people in a poll. I was thinking of adding Joell Ortiz to the mix too.

You could have had them replaced with Lil Wang and Cassidy (lmao 0 votes)

damelokidd picked Cass, he just never voted in the poll ;)

I noticed the Lil Wang votes are increasing. Seriously, if he ends up winning this poll...I'm leaving OTB forever.

:lol: 

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My ninja Joe Budden
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"]Budden easily...Mood Muzik 2>>>their mommasOrlando_Magic

I wouldn't say easily, but I like Mood Muzik 2 better than anything else released by all these artists. But we'll see what happens when Greatest Story Never Told and Nacirema Dream drop, if they ever do....

I think both albums will eventually leak to the internet at the very least...either because of label's being careless or Sai and Pap getting frustrated like Budden was and releaing their album in mixtape form. Sai and Pap have more potenial then Budden (Budden to me is at his peak, Pap and Sai have not reached their peak and are skill-wise on the same level or better then Budden's, Joey is just making that crack musik atm). I say Budden is easily better now because he has shown that he can make a consistent album and rock over tracks no one else wants to even attempt (who thought of rockin' over Crazy before Budden made a remix that is honestly better then the original). None of the other cats listed are on the level of creativity Budden is on atm.
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budden's easily
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Add game in this :P jk jks, back to the question, Joey/Saigon>>>>>>The other guys.

HaSheeSh_basic

I wanted to add Game as the 6th but you can only have 5 people in a poll. I was thinking of adding Joell Ortiz to the mix too.

You could have had them replaced with Lil Wang and Cassidy (lmao 0 votes)

damelokidd picked Cass, he just never voted in the poll ;)

I noticed the Lil Wang votes are increasing. Seriously, if he ends up winning this poll...I'm leaving OTB forever.



Buddens up 11 to 4 now over Weezy
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#29 Orlando_Magic
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"]Budden easily...Mood Muzik 2>>>their mommasfat_rob

I wouldn't say easily, but I like Mood Muzik 2 better than anything else released by all these artists. But we'll see what happens when Greatest Story Never Told and Nacirema Dream drop, if they ever do....

I think both albums will eventually leak to the internet at the very least...either because of label's being careless or Sai and Pap getting frustrated like Budden was and releaing their album in mixtape form. Sai and Pap have more potenial then Budden (Budden to me is at his peak, Pap and Sai have not reached their peak and are skill-wise on the same level or better then Budden's, Joey is just making that crack musik atm). I say Budden is easily better now because he has shown that he can make a consistent album and rock over tracks no one else wants to even attempt (who thought of rockin' over Crazy before Budden made a remix that is honestly better then the original). None of the other cats listed are on the level of creativity Budden is on atm.



Lil Wayne tried to remix Crazy on Da Drought 3 after Budden and it sounded horrible:lol: 

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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Add game in this :P jk jks, back to the question, Joey/Saigon>>>>>>The other guys.

HaSheeSh_basic

I wanted to add Game as the 6th but you can only have 5 people in a poll. I was thinking of adding Joell Ortiz to the mix too.

You could have had them replaced with Lil Wang and Cassidy (lmao 0 votes)

damelokidd picked Cass, he just never voted in the poll ;)

I noticed the Lil Wang votes are increasing. Seriously, if he ends up winning this poll...I'm leaving OTB forever.

*votes for weezy*

:P

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How can any of these hyped up newbies be compared to already established artists like Lil Wayne and Cassidy?  I mean, come on, three of the five guys haven't even put an album out yet.  I'm completely lost.  I don't see how an artist who's put out two mixtapes can be compared to a guy who's gone double plat on two albums, plat on two others and put out 16 mixtapes in a year.  COLOR ME CONFUSED!
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How can any of these hyped up newbies be compared to already established artists like Lil Wayne and Cassidy? I mean, come on, three of the five guys haven't even put an album out yet. I'm completely lost. I don't see how an artist who's put out two mixtapes can be compared to a guy who's gone double plat on two albums, plat on two others and put out 16 mixtapes in a year. COLOR ME CONFUSED!nutDAVE3

Yeah, you got sales, but where your skills at

So you got a million fans, you still wack-Canibus

 

Plus only two of the artist don't have albums (Budden released his first in 03) and Mood Muzik 1 & 2>>>Tha Carta 1 & 2 

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How can any of these hyped up newbies be compared to already established artists like Lil Wayne and Cassidy? I mean, come on, three of the five guys haven't even put an album out yet. I'm completely lost. I don't see how an artist who's put out two mixtapes can be compared to a guy who's gone double plat on two albums, plat on two others and put out 16 mixtapes in a year. COLOR ME CONFUSED!nutDAVE3

Mood Muzik 2 owns the HELL out of Weezy's albums:lol: 

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How can any of these hyped up newbies be compared to already established artists like Lil Wayne and Cassidy? I mean, come on, three of the five guys haven't even put an album out yet. I'm completely lost. I don't see how an artist who's put out two mixtapes can be compared to a guy who's gone double plat on two albums, plat on two others and put out 16 mixtapes in a year. COLOR ME CONFUSED!nutDAVE3

"three of the five guys haven't even put an album out yet"... Budden actually dropped his self titled debut album 4 years ago, where you been!? As far as I'm concerned, Wayne has two dope major label releases, Budden has one. Is it that big of a difference? Nope. 

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and for the record...there is a 12 CD collection of Joe Budden's work on teh internets...a lot of Wayne songs appear on multiple mixtapes.
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My vote is for Pap..

 

Wow @ Lil Wayne in second.. 

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How can any of these hyped up newbies be compared to already established artists like Lil Wayne and Cassidy?  I mean, come on, three of the five guys haven't even put an album out yet.  I'm completely lost.  I don't see how an artist who's put out two mixtapes can be compared to a guy who's gone double plat on two albums, plat on two others and put out 16 mixtapes in a year.  COLOR ME CONFUSED!nutDAVE3
lawl, you've been living under a rock for the last 5 years son :P
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#38 Orlando_Magic
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My vote is for Pap..

 

Wow @ Lil Wayne in second..

icekoldwater

I figured you would vote for him... but I thought we had more Pap fans here. 

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[QUOTE="icekoldwater"]

My vote is for Pap..

 

Wow @ Lil Wayne in second..

Orlando_Magic

I figured you would vote for him... but I thought we had more Pap fans here.

you will all be fans sooner or later :P 

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joey is that dude ..... hes whats poppin . dude reminds me of kenyon martin ,
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="icekoldwater"]

My vote is for Pap..

 

Wow @ Lil Wayne in second..

icekoldwater

I figured you would vote for him... but I thought we had more Pap fans here.

you will all be fans sooner or later :P 

With lines like "I put a dot on ya ass like WWW"...
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#42 Pyro
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My Order cuz i like em all

Budden, Pap, Saigon, wayne, cassidy

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#43 Orlando_Magic
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="icekoldwater"]

My vote is for Pap..

Wow @ Lil Wayne in second..

icekoldwater

I figured you would vote for him... but I thought we had more Pap fans here.

you will all be fans sooner or later :P



I'm already a fan, just not more than Buddens ;)
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joey is that dude ..... hes whats poppin . dude reminds me of kenyon martin , Lakersman2000

And they both used to be out in New Jersey until Kmart went to Denver.

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Its hard to choose but its out of cassidy or papoose for me i dont listen to budden
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#46 ox
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Voted for Papoose, the dude truly has a unique flow, similar to early Jay; let's you digest what he is saying. Budden has been strong lately, but Pap has great potential which he has shown bits of. Also, there is too much Wayne hating here, even if he isn't as good as Budden, the dude has shown the most growth out of any of these artists and really is hated on mostly because of the stigma attached to his early garbage stuff.

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Voted for Papoose, the dude truly has a unique flow, similar to early Jay; let's you digest what he is saying. Budden has been strong lately, but Pap has great potential which he has shown bits of. Also, there is too much Wayne hating here, even if he isn't as good as Budden, the dude has shown the most growth out of any of these artists and really is hated on mostly because of the stigma attached to his early garbage stuff.

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Not really....I hate Lil' Wayne because his style overall does not appeal to me.
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[QUOTE="ox"]

Voted for Papoose, the dude truly has a unique flow, similar to early Jay; let's you digest what he is saying. Budden has been strong lately, but Pap has great potential which he has shown bits of. Also, there is too much Wayne hating here, even if he isn't as good as Budden, the dude has shown the most growth out of any of these artists and really is hated on mostly because of the stigma attached to his early garbage stuff.

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Not really....I hate Lil' Wayne because his style overall does not appeal to me.

word. and besides, i believe the two of us are the only ones that don't like him really. this board is full of wayne dickriders
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#49 Black-Demon
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Wayne can be okay sometimes,some are too biased when it comes to him rapping.
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#50 mems_1224
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Wayne can be okay sometimes,some are too biased when it comes to him rapping.Black-Demon
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