Let's talk about "American Gangster".

I rarely see this album mentioned when people list their favourite Jay albums. Personally, I consider it my third favourite after Reasonable Doubt and The Black Album. It's also pretty underrated now, no one in general seems to talk about it anymore. I understand that modern Jay-Z isn't as good so maybe there's that stigma surrounding it but fvck, it's still a damn good album. I could listen to it from start to finish and never skip a track.

What does OTB think about it? Am I insane for liking it so much?

For me it goes...

Blueprint

Reasonable Doubt

Black Album

American Gangster

Vol 1

etc etc etc

It's a near-classic imo. Has a great, consistent vibe to it, really impressive range of subject matter and has appropriate/well-used guest features. No Hook is probably one of my top 5 Jay-Z songs.

It wasn't bad,but it didn't stand out to me. That's pretty much I never mention it,especially since its Jay-Z and I used to expect a lot from him whenever he was making music

I put Reasonble Doubt, BP, Black Album, and Vol 1 all above American Gangster. Prolly Vol. 3 too. I don't go back to much off AG besides Say Hello and Ignorant **** (which was an odd choice to put on the album in the first place since it was such an old song at the time).

If you take the 10 best songs from Blueprint 2 it's waaay better than American Gangster. The first 7 songs on disc 2 are prolly the best stretch on that album. It doesn't excuse all the filler but BP2 does have its share of great songs.

change the tracklist to this and listen to it

1. Hovi Baby
2. The Watcher 2 (feat. Dr. Dre & Rakim)
3. All Around the World
4. Poppin' Tags (feat. Sleepy Brown, Twista, Killer Mike & Big Boi)
5. Diamonds Is Forever
6. U Don't Know (Remix) (feat. MOP)
7. Meet the Parents
8. Somehow, Someway (feat. Beanie Sigel & Scarface)
9. Some People Hate
10. Blueprint 2

I remember when LM and me used to argue about Rakim or Jay-Z having the best verse on the Watcher 2 back in the old OTB days.

Went ahead and found the original thread from 2007 in case any are curious of what they said back then:http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26032238/quotamerican-gangsterquot-album-discussion

I'm guessing I'm the only cat that likes The Black Album more than The Blueprint.....but I'm also a fella that likes It Was Written more than Illmatic sooooooo lol

I'm guessing I'm the only cat that likes The Black Album more than The Blueprint.....but I'm also a fella that likes It Was Written more than Illmatic sooooooo lol

Black-Demon

As for It was Written...lmao k bro

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

I'm guessing I'm the only cat that likes The Black Album more than The Blueprint.....but I'm also a fella that likes It Was Written more than Illmatic sooooooo lol

HaSheeSh_basic

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

I'm guessing I'm the only cat that likes The Black Album more than The Blueprint.....but I'm also a fella that likes It Was Written more than Illmatic sooooooo lol

HaSheeSh_basic

As for It was Written...lmao k bro

After so many years,you still act like Vyse's beaten stepson with opinions on rap. My my my lol

[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"][QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

I'm guessing I'm the only cat that likes The Black Album more than The Blueprint.....but I'm also a fella that likes It Was Written more than Illmatic sooooooo lol

Black-Demon

As for It was Written...lmao k bro

After so many years,you still act like Vyse's beaten stepson with opinions on rap. My my my lol

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]Black Album is better: Fact.

As for It was Written...lmao k bro

Colt45fool

After so many years,you still act like Vyse's beaten stepson with opinions on rap. My my my lol

Yessuh,I bet guap that him and Hash take turns posting under one account tho'

Blueprint is way better than The Black Album. There is so much variety on the Blueprint and Jay does it all well. Hard hitting disses, party tracks, girl tracks, hard **** like U Don't Know...Amazing album.

There's a lot of good stuff on The Black Album but some real ass tracks too...Justify My Thug being a main offender.

Granted, the good stuff on The Black Album is AMAZING. Stuff like December 4th, 99 Problems, Lucifer, PSA etc. but still it's not enough to take it even close to the Blueprint. Toriko42

[QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

After so many years,you still act like Vyse's beaten stepson with opinions on rap. My my my lol

Black-Demon

Yessuh,I bet guap that him and Hash take turns posting under one account tho'

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Blueprint is way better than The Black Album. There is so much variety on the Blueprint and Jay does it all well. Hard hitting disses, party tracks, girl tracks, hard **** like U Don't Know...Amazing album.

There's a lot of good stuff on The Black Album but some real ass tracks too...Justify My Thug being a main offender.

Granted, the good stuff on The Black Album is AMAZING. Stuff like December 4th, 99 Problems, Lucifer, PSA etc. but still it's not enough to take it even close to the Blueprint. HaSheeSh_basic

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

[QUOTE="Colt45fool"] LOL Wasnt there someone else we use to compare to vyse? Constro, right?HaSheeSh_basic

Yessuh,I bet guap that him and Hash take turns posting under one account tho'

"We don't believe you,you need more people"

Ironic that I used that line in this thread

[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

Yessuh,I bet guap that him and Hash take turns posting under one account tho'

Black-Demon

"We don't believe you,you need more people"

Ironic that I used that line in this thread

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Blueprint is way better than The Black Album. There is so much variety on the Blueprint and Jay does it all well. Hard hitting disses, party tracks, girl tracks, hard **** like U Don't Know...Amazing album.

There's a lot of good stuff on The Black Album but some real ass tracks too...Justify My Thug being a main offender.

Granted, the good stuff on The Black Album is AMAZING. Stuff like December 4th, 99 Problems, Lucifer, PSA etc. but still it's not enough to take it even close to the Blueprint. HaSheeSh_basic

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Blueprint is way better than The Black Album. There is so much variety on the Blueprint and Jay does it all well. Hard hitting disses, party tracks, girl tracks, hard **** like U Don't Know...Amazing album.

There's a lot of good stuff on The Black Album but some real ass tracks too...Justify My Thug being a main offender.

Granted, the good stuff on The Black Album is AMAZING. Stuff like December 4th, 99 Problems, Lucifer, PSA etc. but still it's not enough to take it even close to the Blueprint. HaSheeSh_basic

Blueprint 1 >>>>> everything in this threadColt45fool

Lakersman? Wow, blast from the past