Reasonable Doubt is an amazing album of epic proportions

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#1 HaSheeSh_basic
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Seriously, what was he thinking after doing this album? It's really a damn shame that he'll never ever release an album COMPARABLE to this even if his life depended on it. Dude's changed waay too much, all caught up as an entrpreneur and having a musical-eclectism state mind and all that bull. He gave up the smooth hustler rappin over mellow beats waay too early. I know he's come a long way and there's no turning back, but damn do I miss that UNMATCHED sound
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#2 Anti-Venom
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damn right
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#3 GodofBigMacs
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I know! Blueprint 3 will be wack. I mean, DOA sounded OK for like the first day. Now it's just gotten old.
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#4 iHeartCali
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word, Jay was at his lyrical apex on that album (even though it was his debut lol)
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#5 Toriko42
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I thought it was pretty much common knowledge that Reasonable Doubt > EVerything else he did put together
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#6 mischa_barton
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The Blueprint is just as good, if not better.
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#7 elpooz
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The Blueprint is just as good, if not better.mischa_barton

yeah ^..

And vol 1 is up there too.

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#8 mischa_barton
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[QUOTE="mischa_barton"]The Blueprint is just as good, if not better.elpooz

yeah ^..

And vol 1 is up there too.

I would have to disagree with that. RD has an extremely solid start, perhaps too strong, the rest of the album can't keep up. The Blueprint is consistently great the entire way through.
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Yeah...I always thought RD and Blueprint were Jay's best albums, with The Black Album coming in at 3rd...
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[QUOTE="mischa_barton"]The Blueprint is just as good, if not better.elpooz

yeah ^..

And vol 1 is up there too.

lol at you guys. Those albums aren't even CLOSE.
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[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="mischa_barton"]The Blueprint is just as good, if not better.HaSheeSh_basic

yeah ^..

And vol 1 is up there too.

lol at you guys. Those albums aren't even CLOSE.

I don't know about the Blueprint not being close, but I agree that Reasonable Doubt is next level.
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#12 HaSheeSh_basic
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[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="mischa_barton"]The Blueprint is just as good, if not better.mischa_barton

yeah ^..

And vol 1 is up there too.

I would have to disagree with that. RD has an extremely solid start, perhaps too strong, the rest of the album can't keep up. The Blueprint is consistently great the entire way through.

man, you've gotta be kidding me. Regrets? Bring It On? Coming of Age? Do you want me to start posting lyrics? The album is one of the most consistent albums in hip-hop, unlike Blueprint, i'll name you the weak tracks inbetween with the weak lyrics too if you want me to.
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#13 HaSheeSh_basic
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I'm listening to Bring It On in youtube now, this song is godly, better than any Jay-Z song released after that, and it ain't even the best song in the album
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#14 HaSheeSh_basic
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Yeah...I always thought RD and Blueprint were Jay's best albums, with The Black Album coming in at 3rd...iHeartCali

Speaking of his 2nd best albums, its debatable, many would say Blueprint, and quite a few (like me) would say it's The Black Album. :lol: at mentioning  Vol. 1, American Gangster was better than that crap.

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#15 iHeartCali
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What would your top 3 Jay-Z albums look like?
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What would your top 3 Jay-Z albums look like?iHeartCali
blueprint is 3rd
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#17 elpooz
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Vol 1 is DOPE. you're buggin hash... AG > Vol 1? noooo way.

and BA does deserve a mention. 

lol blueprint is 3rd? okay :roll:

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#18 fat_rob
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RD (Best in every category)

Blueprint (Jay-Z's like 4th best from a lyricial standpoint)

BA (2nd Best lyrically imo, Allure alone is amazing from a writing standpoint...)

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#19 HaSheeSh_basic
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Vol 1 is DOPE. you're buggin hash... AG > Vol 1? noooo way.

and BA does deserve a mention. 

lol blueprint is 3rd? okay :roll:

elpooz

list of crap songs in Vol 1:

I know what girls like, imaginary player, streets is watching, friend or foe 98, who you wit pt 2, real *****s...etc lol what a piece of **** album...i can't believe you are seriously comparing this to RD. :lol:

Listen bro, Vol. 1 isn't dope, isn't good, isn't alright, isn't mediocre, isn't bad, it is more like a bucket fulla crap

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#20 Orlando_Magic
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I think the Blueprint is a cIassic but Reasonable Doubt is on another level greatness.
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#21 IsThisIt_basic
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Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, and The Black Album are all pretty much perfect explanations of why I love rap music.

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#22 TheHimura
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honest opinion everyone: RD or Illmatic? Not which one is better, but which one you like more.
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#23 iHeartCali
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illmatic.
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#24 TheHimura
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illmatic.iHeartCali

I changed the question to make it towards everyone. I pick Illmatic too.

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#25 iHeartCali
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:)
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I prefer listening to Reasonable Doubt more so then Illmatic. Something about that album just can't be put into words. Illmatic is the better of the two but RD is more enjoyable for  me

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#27 Toriko42
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I can't believe it's never been nominated for cIassic status
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#28 Agnidev
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I can't believe it's never been nominated for cIassic statusToriko42

add it to your list :P

its an obvious one, if someone nominates it, its gonna be 10 straight yes' and one random person is gonna disagree 

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#29 tbone29
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Yeah I tend to not mention Reasonable Doubt with any of Jay-Z's other albums in the same sentence.... excluding just now.
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#30 tbone29
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honest opinion everyone: RD or Illmatic? Not which one is better, but which one you like more.TheHimura

I'm obviously biased, but Illmatic.

I think it's better, AND I enjoyed/enjoy it more.

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#31 Saruman1719
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Illmatic. My second favorite album, while Reasonable Doubt is sixth.
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#32 Toriko42
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Illmatic is way up there, Illmatic is in my top 10. Reasonable doubt is a top 20.
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#33 HaSheeSh_basic
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Yeah I tend to not mention Reasonable Doubt with any of Jay-Z's other albums in the same sentence.... excluding just now.tbone29
best response in this thread so far. :lol: at mentioning how Vol. 1 is nearly as good.

I'd say Illmatic coz it's my all time fav

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Reasonable Doubt is a solid album overall, don't get me wrong it has the classic tracks "dead presidents" "feelin it" and "22 twos" but overall, this album has too many skippables and the album just doesn't flow that well for me. I personally enjoy in my lifetime much more.
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#35 Proobie44
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Illmatic is way up there, Illmatic is in my top 10. Reasonable doubt is a top 20.Toriko42
Word, but if I had a Top 10 with other music there wouldn't be a hip-hop album on there :lol:
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#36 Toriko42
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Reasonable Doubt is a solid album overall, don't get me wrong it has the classic tracks "dead presidents" "feelin it" and "22 twos" but overall, this album has too many skippables and the album just doesn't flow that well for me. I personally enjoy in my lifetime much more.HerbertdaPerv
You mean to tell me you skipped over Can't Knock The Hustle, Brooklyn's Finest, Politics as Usual, Can I Live, Coming of Age, Cashmere Thoughts, and Bring it On :?
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#37 -Halftime-
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Reasonable Doubt is a solid album overall, don't get me wrong it has the classic tracks "dead presidents" "feelin it" and "22 twos" but overall, this album has too many skippables and the album just doesn't flow that well for me. I personally enjoy in my lifetime much more.HerbertdaPerv

What tracks do you consider skippable? The only track I skip on the whole album is "Ain't No *****"

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Overrated album imo. Great, but not an amazing album of epic proportions.

I've also always wanted to mention, Jay Z critisized Nas for his albums after Illmatic being bad, but imo Jay Z's albums between Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint were just as bad. Thats kinda a different discussion though, but yeah. Good, not GOAT or anything.

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#39 Saruman1719
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Overrated album imo. Great, but not an amazing album of epic proportions.

I've also always wanted to mention, Jay Z critisized Nas for his albums after Illmatic being bad, but imo Jay Z's albums between Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint were just as bad. Thats kinda a different discussion though, but yeah. Good, not GOAT or anything.

Demonic_Jin

Good point. The "one hot album every 10 year average" line was hot, but come on, It Was Written and I Am... are peppered with gems and are overall great albums, far better than anything Jay-Z did until The Blueprint, as mentioned.

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[QUOTE="HerbertdaPerv"]Reasonable Doubt is a solid album overall, don't get me wrong it has the classic tracks "dead presidents" "feelin it" and "22 twos" but overall, this album has too many skippables and the album just doesn't flow that well for me. I personally enjoy in my lifetime much more.-Halftime-

What tracks do you consider skippable? The only track I skip on the whole album is "Ain't No *****"

Ain't No **** is dope...Fresh to def in Moschino, coach bag lookin' half black and Filipino, fakin no jacks 8)
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#41 Demonic_Jin
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[QUOTE="Demonic_Jin"]

Overrated album imo. Great, but not an amazing album of epic proportions.

I've also always wanted to mention, Jay Z critisized Nas for his albums after Illmatic being bad, but imo Jay Z's albums between Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint were just as bad. Thats kinda a different discussion though, but yeah. Good, not GOAT or anything.

Saruman1719

Good point. The "one hot album every 10 year average" line was hot, but come on, It Was Written and I Am... are peppered with gems and are overall great albums, far better than anything Jay-Z did until The Blueprint, as mentioned.

 

I don't know about peppered jems, but I'd rather listen to It Was Written, I Am or even Nastradamus over In My Lifetime Vol. 1,2 and 3 respectively, which, by the way get expidentially more commercial, and to a very noticable extent.
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#42 Saruman1719
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[QUOTE="Saruman1719"][QUOTE="Demonic_Jin"]

Overrated album imo. Great, but not an amazing album of epic proportions.

I've also always wanted to mention, Jay Z critisized Nas for his albums after Illmatic being bad, but imo Jay Z's albums between Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint were just as bad. Thats kinda a different discussion though, but yeah. Good, not GOAT or anything.

Demonic_Jin

Good point. The "one hot album every 10 year average" line was hot, but come on, It Was Written and I Am... are peppered with gems and are overall great albums, far better than anything Jay-Z did until The Blueprint, as mentioned.

I don't know about peppered jems, but I'd rather listen to It Was Written, I Am or even Nastradamus over In My Lifetime Vol. 1,2 and 3 respectively, which, by the way get expidentially more commercial, and to a very noticable extent.

The Message, I Gave You Power, If I Ruled The World, N.Y. State of Mind Pt. 2, Hate Me Now (Yea I know...), Small World, Favor for a Favor, Nas Is Like

To me, that is two albums peppered with gems.