Updated: Lil Wayne Says He Is Better Than This Game (Hip Hop)

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Lil Wayne Goes After Onetime Idol Jay-Z: 'I'm Better Than Him'
Rapper also takes aim at the Clipse, Pharrell, Young Buck in Complex magazine interview.

Lil Wayne once said he was the "best rapper alive since the best rapper retired."

Well, with Jay-Z — the man Weezy once called his favorite MC — out of retirement (see "Jay-Z's 'Retirement' Is Finally Over: New Album Due In November"), Wayne said his stance has changed a bit. Lil Wayne has declared he's still the best — even if Hov is officially back on the playing field (see "The Making Of The Best: Lil Wayne Plots His Path To The Top").

"I'm better than him," Wayne said in the new issue of Complex magazine, which features the Cash Money Millionaire on the cover with Travis Barker. "I'm 24 years old. ... I'm 13 years deep with five albums and 10 million records sold."

In the article, Wayne also had some disparaging words for the Clipse, Pharrell Williams and and Young Buck, and said he took issue with Jay rapping about being "hip-hop's savior."

"I don't like what he's saying about how he had to come back because hip-hop's dead and we need him," Wayne said. "What the f--- do you mean? If anything it's reborn, so he's probably having a problem with that. You left on a good note, and all of the artists were saying, 'Yo, this is Jay's house. He's the best.' Now he comes back and still thinks it's his house. ... It's not your house anymore, and I'm better than you."

Jay recently clarified stamping himself "hip-hop's savior" on Kingdom Come as a play on words. "When I say 'saving hip-hop,' I don't mean like I'm standing on a mountain saving hip-hop," he said. "I mean, hip-hop needs events, it needs certain things to happen at certain times, like a spark of energy. Like a [Dr.] Dre album or those moments in time that you look back on when Snoop Dogg first came out, it was like 800,000 [albums sold] in the first week. Those events are needed in hip-hop, and it just felt like it was too far in between.

"My album, I believe, is just going to do its part," he continued. "It's not single-handedly going to save hip-hop. No one can do that. I don't have those delusions of grandeur."

Looking at sales of Hova's latest opus, it looks like he's close to accomplishing his mission. He sold close to 700,000 copies in his first week, easily taking the #1 position (see "Jay-Z Scores Seventh #1 With Kingdom Come").

On Monday (December 4), a video for the album's second single, "Lost Ones," debuted on "TRL." "I feel like a rock star," he said when MTV recently asked him what it feels like to be Jay-Z. "I'm happy to be back. I'm happy to be embraced by the people the way I am already. I'm anxious for people to hear the music I've got. I think you're going to enjoy it, and I'm feeling like a rock star right now. I'm feeling like I'm in the best shape of my life. Muhammad Hovie!"

Source: http://www.mtv.com/#/news/articles/1547233/12042006/lil_wayne.jhtml

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what an idiot
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what an idiotHaSheeSh_basic


Seriously. How can you claim you're better than the rapper you ride most of the time? I like Lil Wayne,but dude is like the southern version of 2pac the way people treat him like God.

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what an idiotHaSheeSh_basic
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I like Wayne, but he is essentially Gillie's lyricism/style + Jay-Z's swagger. You ain't carved no niche guy; you're a southern Jay-Z junior. Like I said, a dope rapper is a dope rapper (and that's all dude is), but even his baby Baby had to say "pardon me, I had to laugh at that" when he read the interview. For the record, based of their two albums, if someone said that lyrically Pusha AND Malice **** all over Wayne, I'd find it hard to argue.
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Now I like Wayne, but ain't no way he's better than HOV. If ou ask me, Nas and Hov are the two best in the game..
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[QUOTE="Escobar"]I like Wayne, but he is essentially Gillie's lyricism/style + Jay-Z's swagger. You ain't carved no niche guy; you're a southern Jay-Z junior. Like I said, a dope rapper is a dope rapper (and that's all dude is), but even his baby Baby had to say "pardon me, I had to laugh at that" when he read the interview. For the record, based of their two albums, if someone said that lyrically Pusha AND Malice **** all over Wayne, I'd find it hard to argue.


Not just their 2 albums. Wayne can't touch what Pusha and Malice did on We Got It 4 Cheap Vol. 2.
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I agree with everything Weezy said in that. I interpret it as Wayne saying that he's better right now than Jay-Z is at this point in time, which I find true. As he himself said, he's only 24 yrs. old and still has scary potential. Tha Carter II > Kingdom Come, and I like Kingdom Come A LOT.
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ATM Wayne is putting out better music, but Jay ishes all over wayne from an overall career standpoint...
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Lil Wayne's "Show Me What You Got" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIgga's "Show Me What You Got".
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[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]what an idiotBlack-Demon


Seriously. How can you claim you're better than the rapper you dickride most of the time? I like Lil Wayne,but dude is like the southern version of 2pac the way people treat him like God.

Ironically, it sounds a lot like Jay-Z
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[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]what an idiotColt45fool


Seriously. How can you claim you're better than the rapper you dickride most of the time? I like Lil Wayne,but dude is like the southern version of 2pac the way people treat him like God.

Ironically, it sounds a lot like Jay-Z

cause if I ain't better then big, I'm the closest one...
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Tha Carter II > Kingdom Come, and I like Kingdom Come A LOT.nutDAVE3
agreed...I could consider Tha Carter II almost as a classic album, it never really gets old to me
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that ****'s just outrageous, and I'm not even a huge Jay-Z fan I never got the appeal of Weezy. For the most part he spits a bunch of generic lines that people think are "hot" over occasionally hot beats (Shooter and Hustler's Muzik). His mad libs and swagger are mad corny, his voice and flow are annoying and sometimes lazy, his ego is starting to affect his ability to spit anything even remotely good, and his verses are just an assortment of lines that occasionally are hot. Sometimes I ask myself "what is this verse about?" or "what is the point of this?" His lyrics do absolutely nothing to affect me, I don't get what's so good about him.

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Hahaha Lil' Wayne isn't thinkin'
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Well he is a little out of line...but at this point of time...id say they are almost equal...
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Oh, and by the way, Pusha and Malice are going to murder Wayne on We Got It 4 Cheap Vol. 3. 
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that ****'s just outrageous, and I'm not even a huge Jay-Z fan I never got the appeal of Weezy. For the most part he spits a bunch of generic lines that people think are "hot" over occasionally hot beats (Shooter and Hustler's Muzik). His mad libs and swagger are mad corny, his voice and flow are annoying and sometimes lazy, his ego is starting to affect his ability to spit anything even remotely good, and his verses are just an assortment of lines that occasionally are hot. Sometimes I ask myself "what is this verse about?" or "what is the point of this?" His lyrics do absolutely nothing to affect me, I don't get what's so good about him.ak618
Agreed dun, I'm glad the Weezy fad is over.

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[QUOTE="ak618"]that ****'s just outrageous, and I'm not even a huge Jay-Z fan I never got the appeal of Weezy. For the most part he spits a bunch of generic lines that people think are "hot" over occasionally hot beats (Shooter and Hustler's Muzik). His mad libs and swagger are mad corny, his voice and flow are annoying and sometimes lazy, his ego is starting to affect his ability to spit anything even remotely good, and his verses are just an assortment of lines that occasionally are hot. Sometimes I ask myself "what is this verse about?" or "what is the point of this?" His lyrics do absolutely nothing to affect me, I don't get what's so good about him.HighPowered94
Agreed dun, I'm glad the Weezy fad in OTB is over.



Fixed.

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[QUOTE="HighPowered94"][QUOTE="ak618"]that ****'s just outrageous, and I'm not even a huge Jay-Z fan I never got the appeal of Weezy. For the most part he spits a bunch of generic lines that people think are "hot" over occasionally hot beats (Shooter and Hustler's Muzik). His mad libs and swagger are mad corny, his voice and flow are annoying and sometimes lazy, his ego is starting to affect his ability to spit anything even remotely good, and his verses are just an assortment of lines that occasionally are hot. Sometimes I ask myself "what is this verse about?" or "what is the point of this?" His lyrics do absolutely nothing to affect me, I don't get what's so good about him.Black-Demon
Agreed dun, I'm glad the Weezy fad in OTB is over.



Fixed.

Appreciate that. :)

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[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"]Agreed dun, I'm glad the Weezy fad in OTB is over.HighPowered94


Fixed.

Appreciate that. :)



LOL

I put "in OTB" because people down south still ride the hell out of Lil Wayne. It's ashame how Fat Joe was the most hated rapper at my school then AS SOON as Lil Wayne is featured on one of his songs,he's looked at as a microphone fiend:|

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[QUOTE="HighPowered94"][QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

Fixed.
Black-Demon
Appreciate that. :)



LOL

I put "in OTB" because people down south still ride the hell out of Lil Wayne. It's ashame how Fat Joe was the most hated rapper at my school then AS SOON as Lil Wayne is featured on one of his songs,he's looked at as a microphone fiend:|

The Weezy "fad" in OTB isn't over. The Carter II was still one of the best mainstream releases during it's year, and when Carter III drops, it'll probably be talked about a lot on here because he has only gotten better with each release.

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[QUOTE="nutDAVE3"]Tha Carter II > Kingdom Come, and I like Kingdom Come A LOT.DaDukies
agreed...I could consider Tha Carter II almost as a cIassic album, it never really gets old to me

Are you serious? :lol: Is it a cIassic, 'up there' with Late Registration? You are whack...seriously.
that ****'s just outrageous, and I'm not even a huge Jay-Z fan I never got the appeal of Weezy. For the most part he spits a bunch of generic lines that people think are "hot" over occasionally hot beats (Shooter and Hustler's Muzik). His mad libs and swagger are mad corny, his voice and flow are annoying and sometimes lazy, his ego is starting to affect his ability to spit anything even remotely good, and his verses are just an assortment of lines that occasionally are hot. Sometimes I ask myself "what is this verse about?" or "what is the point of this?" His lyrics do absolutely nothing to affect me, I don't get what's so good about him.ak618
teh cIassic post

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[QUOTE="DaDukies"][QUOTE="nutDAVE3"]Tha Carter II > Kingdom Come, and I like Kingdom Come A LOT.HaSheeSh_basic
agreed...I could consider Tha Carter II almost as a classic album, it never really gets old to me

Are you serious? :lol: Is it a classic, 'up there' with Late Registration? You are whack...seriously.

ROFL :lol:
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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]what an idiotfat_rob


Seriously. How can you claim you're better than the rapper you dickride most of the time? I like Lil Wayne,but dude is like the southern version of 2pac the way people treat him like God.

Ironically, it sounds a lot like Jay-Z

cause if I ain't better then big, I'm the closest one...

:|
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[QUOTE="HighPowered94"][QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

Fixed.
Black-Demon
Appreciate that. :)



LOL

I put "in OTB" because people down south still ride the hell out of Lil Wayne. It's ashame how Fat Joe was the most hated rapper at my school then AS SOON as Lil Wayne is featured on one of his songs,he's looked at as a microphone fiend:|

At school around here, most of the kids get hype for that 50 and Em song, the Ballin song by Jim Jones, and that stupid ass "walk It Out" crap... I used to get ade fun of for liking Nas:| Kids have no respect for the true legends of hip hop, they just wanna see some stupid dance and some snap beat.

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[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"]Appreciate that. :)laraza7682300



LOL

I put "in OTB" because people down south still ride the hell out of Lil Wayne. It's ashame how Fat Joe was the most hated rapper at my school then AS SOON as Lil Wayne is featured on one of his songs,he's looked at as a microphone fiend:|

At school around here, most of the kids get hype for that 50 and Em song, the Ballin song by Jim Jones, and that stupid ass "walk It Out" crap... I used to get ade fun of for liking Nas:| Kids have no respect for the true legends of hip hop, they just wanna see some stupid dance and some snap beat.



LMFAO,same here my friend,same here:lol:

I wouldn't dare mention Nas in front of my homeboys,they'd bash the **** out of me:lol:

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[QUOTE="laraza7682300"]

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"]

LOL

I put "in OTB" because people down south still ride the hell out of Lil Wayne. It's ashame how Fat Joe was the most hated rapper at my school then AS SOON as Lil Wayne is featured on one of his songs,he's looked at as a microphone fiend:|
Black-Demon

At school around here, most of the kids get hype for that 50 and Em song, the Ballin song by Jim Jones, and that stupid ass "walk It Out" crap... I used to get ade fun of for liking Nas:| Kids have no respect for the true legends of hip hop, they just wanna see some stupid dance and some snap beat.



LMFAO,same here my friend,same here:lol:

I wouldn't dare mention Nas in front of my homeboys,they'd bash the **** out of me:lol:

****, I do it anyway. If they wanna listen to mindless rap likeYing Yang Twinsand DFBthen they can, I'm not the one listening to garbage.I recall one time I was driving some of my boys home from school, listening to Illmatic, and they was complaining about it and sayin how Nas sucks cus "50 Murked him in Piggybank":| :| :| WhenI know if Nas wanted to diss 50 he'd KILL him COMPLETELY. And I also got made fun of when I wa slistenign to Blackstar and people was callin them Gay :| Not my fault I listen to intelligent rap...

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[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="laraza7682300"]

At school around here, most of the kids get hype for that 50 and Em song, the Ballin song by Jim Jones, and that stupid ass "walk It Out" crap... I used to get ade fun of for liking Nas:| Kids have no respect for the true legends of hip hop, they just wanna see some stupid dance and some snap beat.

laraza7682300



LMFAO,same here my friend,same here:lol:

I wouldn't dare mention Nas in front of my homeboys,they'd bash the **** out of me:lol:

****, I do it anyway. If they wanna listen to mindless rap likeYing Yang Twinsand DFBthen they can, I'm not the one listening to garbage.I recall one time I was driving some of my boys home from school, listening to Illmatic, and they was complaining about it and sayin how Nas sucks cus "50 Murked him in Piggybank":| :| :| WhenI know if Nas wanted to diss 50 he'd KILL him COMPLETELY. And I also got made fun of when I wa slistenign to Blackstar and people was callin them Gay :| Not my fault I listen to intelligent rap...

America just sounds ****ed to me...

like seriouslly some people got wack tastes here...but saying you like Nas doens't get ya bashed...and hell showing knowledge of **** gets you respect here...cuz knowing how to tell it works cuz people hang on your every word if you sound like truth.

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Tha Carter II > Kingdom Come
Dedication II > Kingdom Come

...Recently the ish Weezy has been putting out has been better than what Jigga has done. Career-wise its a different story.
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[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="HighPowered94"]Agreed dun, I'm glad the Weezy fad in OTB is over.HighPowered94


Fixed.

Appreciate that. :)

That's exactly what I was thinking when everyone was going all
:-O over Weezy.

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Tha Carter II > Kingdom Come
Dedication II > Kingdom Come

...Recently the ish Weezy has been putting out has been better than what Jigga has done. Career-wise its a different story.
Orlando_Magic
Orlando ftw.
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"] Ironically, it sounds a lot like Jay-ZColt45fool
cause if I ain't better then big, I'm the closest one...

:|

:| what?...I was slightly co-signing what you said in that post...Jay rides biggie a lot, but at the same time says he's better then him...I just put the lyric in the post instead of writing it out...

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Tha Carter II > Kingdom Come
Dedication II > Kingdom Come

...Recently the ish Weezy has been putting out has been better than what Jigga has done. Career-wise its a different story.
Orlando_Magic
The "I Can't Feel My Face" mixtape owns too
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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]what an idiotfat_rob


Seriously. How can you claim you're better than the rapper you dickride most of the time? I like Lil Wayne,but dude is like the southern version of 2pac the way people treat him like God.

Ironically, it sounds a lot like Jay-Z

cause if I ain't better then big, I'm the closest one...

:|

:| what?...I was slightly co-signing what you said in that post...Jay dickrides biggie a lot, but at the same time says he's better then him...I just put the lyric in the post instead of writing it out...

Oh, I thought you were saying Jay's never said he was better than big :?:P
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]what an idiotColt45fool


Seriously. How can you claim you're better than the rapper you dickride most of the time? I like Lil Wayne,but dude is like the southern version of 2pac the way people treat him like God.

Ironically, it sounds a lot like Jay-Z

cause if I ain't better then big, I'm the closest one...

:|

:| what?...I was slightly co-signing what you said in that post...Jay dickrides biggie a lot, but at the same time says he's better then him...I just put the lyric in the post instead of writing it out...

Oh, I thought you were saying Jay's never said he was better than big :?:P



Dum dum:lol::P
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Tha Carter II > Kingdom Come
Dedication II > Kingdom Come

...Recently the ish Weezy has been putting out has been better than what Jigga has done. Career-wise its a different story.
Orlando_Magic

I don't think I've ever disagreed with you more.

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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]Tha Carter II > Kingdom Come
Dedication II > Kingdom Come

...Recently the ish Weezy has been putting out has been better than what Jigga has done. Career-wise its a different story.
IsThisIt_basic

I don't think I've ever disagreed with you more.



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#39 esb617
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"] :|Colt45fool
:| what?...I was slightly co-signing what you said in that post...Jay rides biggie a lot, but at the same time says he's better then him...I just put the lyric in the post instead of writing it out...

Oh, I thought you were saying Jay's never said he was better than big :?:P

I thought he was talking bout the size of his ....:|