Who Is The Biggest Rapper Alive? Em or Jay-Z?

Numbers don't lie.....sometimes....LOL

rick ross. he is by far the biggest.Andrew_is_basic

rick ross. he is by far the biggest.Andrew_is_basic

Biggest is Eminem by far, if by 'biggest' you mean 'most popular'.

Yeah, kinda depends what you mean. If it is in terms of sales and popularity, it's undoubtably Eminem.

However, if it's who we think is going to have a bigger legacy, in Hip-Hop, when it's all said and done, I'd say Jay-Z hands down. Personally, I think he's had a bigger impact on the genre overall, but I think I'm in the minority.

However, if it's who we think is going to have a bigger legacy, in Hip-Hop, when it's all said and done, I'd say Jay-Z hands down. Personally, I think he's had a bigger impact on the genre overall, but I think I'm in the minority.

djwestwood

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However, if it's who we think is going to have a bigger legacy, in Hip-Hop, when it's all said and done, I'd say Jay-Z hands down. Personally, I think he's had a bigger impact on the genre overall, but I think I'm in the minority.

Demonic_Jin

I did say I'd be in the minority :lol:

I think Jay's done more musically because his music has more quality and substance overall. In my opinion, Em's had one, as much as I like TES and SSLP, I wouldn't consider them classic.  I know Em's sales have always been dominated that of every other rapper, but I don't think he's as consistent as Jay musically.

Jay's albums have a better balance between being commercially successful and being well-received critically, again in my opinion.

Plenty of other artists have made the genre accessible and pop friendly before Eminem - take Run DMC and MC Hammer.

It is indeed close, but I still place Jay above Em in terms of whose legacy as a rapper will be "bigger".

Anyone that thinks Em has had a bigger musical impact is sniffing coked laced with Cascade ... so many rappers were Jay-Z clones at one point that it literally was vomit inducing. 

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However, if it's who we think is going to have a bigger legacy, in Hip-Hop, when it's all said and done, I'd say Jay-Z hands down. Personally, I think he's had a bigger impact on the genre overall, but I think I'm in the minority.

Demonic_Jin

eminem has made it more accessible but Jay-z has actually influenced how many rappers rap...the first thing that pops in my head is Drake on You Know, You Know...he sounds like a Jay-z clone damn near. 

something to consider...maybe Em's style is harder to emulate? Jay-Z is a (pardon the football analogy) "prototypical" rapper. Do

hold that against him?

my vote goes to bizarre from d12 :P

Anyone that thinks Em has had a bigger musical impact is sniffing coked laced with Cascade ... so many rappers were Jay-Z clones at one point that it literally was vomit inducing. 

fat_rob

Word.

Plus most people to this day add Jay-Z as #3 behind Biggie and Pac in the cliche Best Rappers or Favorite Rappers list.

^^^ Em gets lots of love from rappers too, but you hear more Jay-Z influence in their writing. Em is unique in a lot of ways ... even though he has a very linear style.fat_rob

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Anyone that thinks Em has had a bigger musical impact is sniffing coked laced with Cascade ... so many rappers were Jay-Z clones at one point that it literally was vomit inducing.

Black-Demon

Word.

Plus most people to this day add Jay-Z as #3 behind Biggie and Pac in the cliche Best Rappers or Favorite Rappers list.

And Jay adds Eminem in his.

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

Anyone that thinks Em has had a bigger musical impact is sniffing coked laced with Cascade ... so many rappers were Jay-Z clones at one point that it literally was vomit inducing.

kobegill

Word.

Plus most people to this day add Jay-Z as #3 behind Biggie and Pac in the cliche Best Rappers or Favorite Rappers list.

And Jay adds Eminem in his.

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

Anyone that thinks Em has had a bigger musical impact is sniffing coked laced with Cascade ... so many rappers were Jay-Z clones at one point that it literally was vomit inducing.

kobegill

Word.

Plus most people to this day add Jay-Z as #3 behind Biggie and Pac in the cliche Best Rappers or Favorite Rappers list.

And Jay adds Eminem in his.

...............And? Lol

Jay Z has a classic Eminem does not. Therefore Jay> EminemMoetWitMedusa

[QUOTE="MoetWitMedusa"]Jay Z has a classic Eminem does not. Therefore Jay> EminemApocalypse33

"I don't know what the **** up with this kid" 

Im sorry but lyrics like that is why I can never be an Eminem fan. If Jay wrote lyrics like that he'd get laughed out of the music business while Eminem gets praised for that garbage.  

how is this even debatable? 

Jay-Z is an icon. Em was great, but lettuce be reality...20 years from now, people will mention Eminem, but Jay-Z will always be listed with the greats....not just in rap history, but in music history. Really, who else has raped the music industry from the rap genre like Jay-Z has for as many years as he has? You can talk Biggie, and Pac all you want in mainstream America, but those dudes were popular for five years max. Jay's been the most popular thing in his genre for pushing 20 years....even when he was "retired." That's some Bob Dylan, Michael Jackson, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Beatles, type ****.  

[QUOTE="MoetWitMedusa"]Jay Z has THREE classics Eminem does not. Therefore Jay>>> EminemApocalypse33

Fixed. How can you argue with that?

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="MoetWitMedusa"]Jay Z has THREE classics Eminem does not. Therefore Jay>>> Eminemdjwestwood

Fixed. How can you argue with that?

he has 2 maybe 3.  But his catalogue is much bigger too.  He has more flops than em too.

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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="MoetWitMedusa"]Jay Z has THREE classics Eminem does not. Therefore Jay>>> EminemApocalypse33

Fixed. How can you argue with that?

he has 2 maybe 3.  But his catalogue is much bigger too.  He has more flops than em too.

Even if you say he has two (even though three are widely considered classics), Eminem still has one at a push.

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="djwestwood"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="MoetWitMedusa"]Jay Z has THREE classics Eminem does not. Therefore Jay>>> Eminemdjwestwood

Fixed. How can you argue with that?

he has 2 maybe 3.  But his catalogue is much bigger too.  He has more flops than em too.

Even if you say he has two (even though three are widely considered classics), Eminem still has one at a push.

He has more albums because he's a bigger contributor to the genre.

The second point might be true in your opinion, but when it's all said and done an artist (more often than not) will be remembered by the amount of good music they made rather than the bad. IMO, Jay has more good music than Eminem.

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="djwestwood"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="MoetWitMedusa"]Jay Z has THREE classics Eminem does not. Therefore Jay>>> Eminemdjwestwood

Fixed. How can you argue with that?

he has 2 maybe 3.  But his catalogue is much bigger too.  He has more flops than em too.

Even if you say he has two (even though three are widely considered classics), Eminem still has one at a push.

What do you mean by flop? We've already established Em's a bigger seller.

Aw c'mon, SSLP and MMLP are both classics!

[QUOTE="djwestwood"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="djwestwood"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="MoetWitMedusa"]Jay Z has THREE classics Eminem does not. Therefore Jay>>> EminemForerunner-117

Fixed. How can you argue with that?

he has 2 maybe 3.  But his catalogue is much bigger too.  He has more flops than em too.

Even if you say he has two (even though three are widely considered classics), Eminem still has one at a push.

What do you mean by flop? We've already established Em's a bigger seller.

Aw c'mon, SSLP and MMLP are both classics!

I think TES is still his masterpiece.Apocalypse33

He has more albums because he's a bigger contributor to the genre.

The second point might be true in your opinion, but when it's all said and done an artist (more often than not) will be remembered by the amount of good music they made rather than the bad. IMO, Jay has more good music than Eminem.

djwestwood

The Detroit lyricist is up for honors in nine categories including "Album of the Year" and "Rap Album of the Year" for his latest disc Recovery, as well as "Song of the Year" and "Record of the Year" for "Love The Way You Lie," his hit collaboration with Rihanna. The chart-topping single was also named in the "Best Rap/Sung Collaboration" and "Best Rap Song" category, along with Recovery's lead single, "Not Afraid," which also picked up a nod for "Best Rap Solo Performance." Em was also honored for his verse on B.o.B's crossover song with Hayley Williams of Paramore, "Airplanes II," for "Best Pop Collaboration With Vocals.

Jay-Z and Bobby Ray also picked up an impressive tally of nominations. The Brooklyn-bred rap legend scored five nods including "Rap Album of the Year" for The Blueprint 3 and "Record of the Year," "Best Rap Song Collaboration" and "Best Rap Song" for the Alicia Keys-assisted "Empire State of Mind." Hov's duet with Swizz Beatz "On to the Next One" picked up two nods for "Best Rap Collaboration For a Duo or Group" and "Best Rap Song." In addition to his nod for "Best Pop Collaboration With Vocals" for "Airplanes II," Bob earned nods for "Best Rap Album" for his debut The Adventures of Bobby Ray. His radio smash "Nothin' on You" picked up three nominations for "Record of the Year," "Best Rap Song" and "Best Rap/Sung Collaboration"

Trailing behind the ATLien was Drake with honors in four categories including "Best New Artist," "Best Rap Album" for Thank Me Later, "Best Rap Solo Performance" for "Over" and "Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group" for "Fancy."

The 53rd annual Grammy Awards are scheduled to air live on CBS on February 13 at 8 p.m. EST/PT.

grammys are such a fail. katy perry nominated for AOTY?

ok 

grammys are such a fail. katy perry nominated for AOTY?

ok

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