15 story community center containing a mosque being built near ground zero

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#1 SquatsAreAwesom
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How do you feel about this Mosque / Community center being built by Muslims?

Two blocks from ground zero. One of the buildings that was partially damaged during 9/11

[Thread title edited for accuracy. -Mod]

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#2 kidsmelly
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For some reason I thought it said 15 story mouse. That would be cool.

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#3 Anti-Venom
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what a great place to put it
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#4 -Apathy-
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I don't like it. But then again, it's their right.
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#5 Espada12
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That's a really big mosque....

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#6 Anti-Venom
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I don't like it. But then again, it's their right. -Apathy-
why dont you like it?
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#7 UnamedThing
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Why does it matter? THEY didn't fly the planes into the world trade center.
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#8 MuddVader
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For some reason I thought it said 15 story mouse. That would be cool.

kidsmelly

I thought that too.. Would have been interesting.





I thought a mosque was somewhere of religious gather kind of like a church?
If that's the case than that and a community center aren't exactly the same thing..
Tell me which exactly and I'll tell you whether its okay or not.

Edit: Actually, I misread the post, I thought you said ON GROUND ZERO.
Anywhere else is perfectly fine, but I still dont udnerstand how a mosque and a community center are the same.

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#9 SquatsAreAwesom
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[QUOTE="kidsmelly"]

For some reason I thought it said 15 story mouse. That would be cool.

MuddVader
I thought that too.. Would have been interesting. I thought a mosque was somewhere of religious gather kind of like a church? if that's the case than that and a community center aren't exactly the same thing.. Tell me which exactly and I'll tell you whether its okay or not.

It's a Mosque AND a community center
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#10 UnamedThing
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[QUOTE="kidsmelly"]

For some reason I thought it said 15 story mouse. That would be cool.

MuddVader
I thought that too.. Would have been interesting. I thought a mosque was somewhere of religious gather kind of like a church? if that's the case than that and a community center aren't exactly the same thing.. Tell me which exactly and I'll tell you whether its okay or not.

I think it's a combination of both.
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#11 thattotally
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You know that's such an easy typo to fix... I mean...


Anyway where is this so called 15 story mosque being built? How much is 15 storys? stories? storeez?

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#12 MuddVader
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[QUOTE="MuddVader"][QUOTE="kidsmelly"]

For some reason I thought it said 15 story mouse. That would be cool.

SquatsAreAwesom
I thought that too.. Would have been interesting. I thought a mosque was somewhere of religious gather kind of like a church? if that's the case than that and a community center aren't exactly the same thing.. Tell me which exactly and I'll tell you whether its okay or not.

It's a Mosque AND a community center

I edited my post, but I guess that makes sense than, I thought the slash signified one or the other, not both. Either way I still think its fine.
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#13 SquatsAreAwesom
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You know that's such an easy typo to fix... I mean...


Anyway where is this so called 15 story mosque being built? How much is 15 storys? stories? storeez?

thattotally

It's in the topic. 2 blocks from ground zero. One of the buildings that was partially damaged. 15 stories = 15 floors ( not sure if serious )

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#14 entropyecho
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That doesn't bother me, though I cannot speak for everyone. Or can I? ...

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#15 xhellcatx
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That doesn't bother me, though I cannot speak for everyone. Or can I? ...

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you can SAY you can. But it doesnt mean that you do. ^_^ Anyways, I know there will be people who will not be ok with it. They racially profile them.. and religiously profile them, thinking one muslim is the same as the next and they think exactly the same. Its a bit of a sore spot, Im sure, for New Yorkers and people who live near it, but this is the US of A, and we support religious freedoms. And before someone has a chance to say a thing about religious freedom... we support Religious Freedom... NOT Radicalism.
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#16 deactivated-59d151f079814
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9/11 and the building of the mosque should not be related what so ever.. 9/11 was a attack by religious extremists for multiple reasons.. To some how think this is any how related pretty much makes you biggoted.
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#17 GabuEx
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A 15-story mosque? Link? That seems, uh, awfully large.

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#18 taj7575
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Link would be helpful first of all.

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#19 Treflis
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Well for starters not every Muslim is a terrorist so I don't see why they shouldn't build a mosque wherever they want aslong as they own the property.
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#20 Murj
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What kind of facilities does a mosque require that it needs to be 15 stories high?

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#21 entropyecho
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A 15-story mosque? Link? That seems, uh, awfully large.

GabuEx

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/07/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html

It is a community center and mosque.

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#22 MystikFollower
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I have no issue whatsoever. Why should anyone?

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#23 supa_badman
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Really?

Good on those Muslims.

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A 15-story mosque? Link? That seems, uh, awfully large.

GabuEx
This. Yeah that's pretty big.
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#25 Stumpt25
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Whilst I think they have every right to do so, and there's no reason why we should associate these people with terrorists, I can't help but feel slightly uncomfortable about it. It just seems a bit insensitive if you ask me.
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#26 JML897
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I really don't have any idea why people would be against this. Muslims didn't attack us; extremist Muslims did. It would be like saying all Christians are evil because the KKK is evil.

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#27 legend26
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What kind of facilities does a mosque require that it needs to be 15 stories high?

Murj

to show off the power of orangized religion

im not a racist, but you cant deny that the average new yorker would walk by that and feel alittle...i dont know

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

A 15-story mosque? Link? That seems, uh, awfully large.

entropyecho

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/07/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html

It is a community center and mosque.

"..Cordoba House project calls for a 15-story community center including a mosque, performance art center, gym, swimming pool and other public spaces."

"It will have a real community feel, to celebrate the pluralism in the United States, as well as in the Islamic religion," Khan said. "It will also serve as a major platform for amplifying the silent voice of the majority of Muslims who have nothing to do with extremist ideologies. It will counter the extremist momentum.""

"The project got mixed reviews from families and friends of September 11 victims."

"I think it's the right thing to do," said Marvin Bethea, who was a paramedic at ground zero. "I lost 16 friends down there. But Muslims also got killed on 9/11. It would be a good sign of faith that we're not condemning all Muslims and that the Muslims who did this happened to be extremists. As a black man, I know what it's like to be discriminated against when you haven't done anything."

Herbert Ouida, whose son was killed in the attacks, supports the project as a way to bridge cultural divide.

"I understand the anger, the bitterness and hatred, but it only generates more hatred," Ouida said. "Such a large part of the world has this faith, and to say anyone who has this faith is a terrorist, it's terrible."

After reading all that, I don't see a problem with it at all. This actually sounds like a very posotive thing to do.

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#29 Murj
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It just seems a bit insensitive if you ask me.Stumpt25
This. If the situation were the other way around somehow, it probably wouldn't be allowed.

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#30 NightStalkerBX
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The fact that this is even a source of outrage just illustrates how much Islam has been demonized by the media all because of the actions of a small percentage of vociferous radicals.

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Good for them, I hope all goes well.
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#32 legend26
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Whilst I think they have every right to do so, and there's no reason why we should associate these people with terrorists, I can't help but feel slightly uncomfortable about it. It just seems a bit insensitive if you ask me.Stumpt25

this is the word i was looking for in my eariler post

seriously of all the places to build it??

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#33 taj7575
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[QUOTE="Murj"]

What kind of facilities does a mosque require that it needs to be 15 stories high?

legend26

to show off the power of orangized religion

im not a racist, but you cant deny that the average new yorker would walk by that and feel alittle...i dont know

It's not a mosque. It's a community center, which has a mosque inside.

Read people, read!! :x:x

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#34 Theokhoth
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That's one huge mosque. :shock: They have every right to build it.
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#35 mo0ksi
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That's cool that they're building a mosque. But building a 15 story one seems like serious overkill.
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#36 SteveTabernacle
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I have no issue with it, but they should be ready for a large amount of local backlash/vandalism.
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#37 JML897
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"I lost 16 friends down there. But Muslims also got killed on 9/11. It would be a good sign of faith that we're not condemning all Muslims and that the Muslims who did this happened to be extremists."

taj7575

Exactly. So many people seem to forget that...

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#38 cheesyjon
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Big. :|

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Good, good. Get them all in one place. Muhahahahahahaaa.
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#40 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

A 15-story mosque? Link? That seems, uh, awfully large.

entropyecho

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/07/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html

It is a community center and mosque.

Oh, OK, so it's a 15-story community center that containsa mosque, not a 15-story mosque.

Which makes this even more of a non-story.

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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

"I lost 16 friends down there. But Muslims also got killed on 9/11. It would be a good sign of faith that we're not condemning all Muslims and that the Muslims who did this happened to be extremists."

JML897

Exactly. So many people seem to forget that...

And so many people seem to forget that an average muslim is just another normal person..

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unless what they're building is some how hazardous to the environment or a threat to human life... I can't see why they shouldn't be allowed to build it.
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#43 taj7575
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[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

A 15-story mosque? Link? That seems, uh, awfully large.

GabuEx

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/07/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html

It is a community center and mosque.

Oh, OK, so it's a 15-story community center that containsa mosque, not a 15-story mosque.

Which makes this even more of a non-story.

Yeah, but what is OT without it's fair share of misleading topic titles?

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Link? Also, if this was true, I don't agree with it but since they own the property, they can do whatever they want to do with it.
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[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]It just seems a bit insensitive if you ask me.Murj

This. If the situation were the other way around somehow, it probably wouldn't be allowed.

I don't see how after 9 years it could even be jokingly considered insensitive. That's ridiculous to think this is mean't as some sort of insult to us, due to the fact that you couldn't really take it as any sort of insult even if you wanted to :|.

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#46 juden41
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Why does it matter? THEY didn't fly the planes into the world trade center.UnamedThing
I think so too. The people who did it were extremists.
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#47 kidsmelly
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O so its a 15 story building with a mosque inside. Yeah really don't care.

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#48 Murj
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Good, good. Get them all in one place. Muhahahahahahaaa.bobaban
Dude :| Ouch.

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#49 Sp4rtan_3
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So what ?? As long as radical hatred islam isnt being taught they have every right to put it there.
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#50 chessmaster1989
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Good for them, I don't have any reason to object to it.