2001: A Space Odyssey...brilliant? Why?

So I just watched 2001: A Space Odyssey and I'm left in a somewhat state of confusion. I really have never felt this way. That feeling? Total lose. I have no clue what to think of this film, what so ever. So I ask, what did you think? What was the point of the film, what makes it so great in some many peoples mind. As of right now I just don't know. What I do know is I have a sudden urge to read the novel.

Maybe it's because of ?

That's what I've seen, most people who loved 2001 loved HAL 9000. Hell, there was even an obvious reference to him in WALL-E.

The movie was, IMO, just bad. Clarity, from my point of view, is something to be aimed for. A drug trip in space (the final third) isn't art. It's a drug trip in space. HAL was an amazing villain though.thepwninator

I read the book and haven't seen the movie. The ending did confuse me. I need to reread it.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"]The movie was, IMO, just bad. Clarity, from my point of view, is something to be aimed for. A drug trip in space (the final third) isn't art. It's a drug trip in space. HAL was an amazing villain though.ChrisSpartan117

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[QUOTE="thepwninator"]The movie was, IMO, just bad. Clarity, from my point of view, is something to be aimed for. A drug trip in space (the final third) isn't art. It's a drug trip in space. HAL was an amazing villain though.thepwninator

I love a film for eye candy and visually 2001 is Godly.

And once you understand (or at least "Kinda get" it) the film, it grows into something even better. Love the death of HAL, It gets you thinking, is he begging for his life or is he just Taking to best course of action to save it. I would have said the latter til he starts his song....

2001 can be different things for different people. thats the brilliance of it. i wouldnt approach it like a normal movie. its more like a short sci-fi movie with a space fantasia rapped around it. my best advice is to give it multiple viewings, as a second time through will give you a better chance to reflect.

as for what i got out of it, well its hard to sum up without forcing my views. it will suffice to say that i think its kubricks meditation on mankind's limits and then the breaking of those limits.

if nothing else enjoy the dazzling sights and sounds. the ending sequence in particular is mindblowing (the shifts in points of view made me go :shock: )

It just brings up a lot of questions for the viewer to think about. It just doesn't strike me as a "movie" in the sense of the word that I am used to, it's something different.

I think it is an outstanding film. It doesn't fit the mold of a lot of other films but if you can accept that you're half way to liking it. Just don't be expecting some sci-fi adventure or some dude painfully explaining the plot details like they do in other films.

you cant watch it soberDjCristii

It just brings up a lot of questions for the viewer to think about. It just doesn't strike me as a "movie" in the sense of the word that I am used to, it's something different.

foolio_67

2001 is probably in my top 10 favorite movies. I've never been more sucked into a film before. The cinemtography is astounding. It's just... atmospheric or something. I think only three or four shots are moving at all. It's all stationary. The special effects still hold up as well. HAL is also one of the most evil villains ever.

And the whole point of the ending is that you're not supposed to get it. Clarke and Kubrick have never given an interpretation from what I've seen. Dave was venturing into the next step of humans... or something. Entering the monollith, he got rid of time and space, as evidenced by the fact that he was seeing himself go to old age. I'd say it's a perfect film, but the second segment on the Moon had some iffy acting, especially from Kubrick's daughter. I can't believe this got so robbed at the '68 Oscars... The Producers beat it for best original screenplay! Even though that movie is hilarious, I really don't think it should have won. Anyway, that's just my two cents on the film... I need to get it on Blu-Ray...

Edit: Also, the film gets better with more views. It just got better and better with each time I've seen it (3 times).

It just brings up a lot of questions for the viewer to think about. It just doesn't strike me as a "movie" in the sense of the word that I am used to, it's something different.

It gets you thinking, is he begging for his life or is he just Taking to best course of action to save it. I would have said the latter til he starts his song....

hip-hop-cola2

And the whole point of the ending is that you're not supposed to get it. Clarke and Kubrick have never given an interpretation from what I've seen.Scalien26

Just because that's the point of the ending doesn't make it a good ending.

As I said, the giant space baby isn't art-it's just a goddamn giant space baby. There is no legitimate reason for it to be there.

The central portion is, as I said before, however, amazing in artistry, story-telling, and...well...everything.

[QUOTE="Scalien26"]And the whole point of the ending is that you're not supposed to get it. Clarke and Kubrick have never given an interpretation from what I've seen.thepwninator

Just because that's the point of the ending doesn't make it a good ending.

As I said, the giant space baby isn't art-it's just a goddamn giant space baby. There is no legitimate reason for it to be there.

The central portion is, as I said before, however, amazing in artistry, story-telling, and...well...everything.

Yeah, I probably worded it wrong... Dave turns into the starchild for no real reason. I'd like to think it's because when he enters the monolith, he evolves, much like the apes did when they encountered the monolith at the beginning... or something. I dunno. Anyway, Kubrick is the master. Need to see more of his stuff...

One of the most overblown pieces of cinema trash I have seen in my life. I bet it would be good high on drugs... but sober, it isn't.

It can be interpreted in many different ways. Here's a site that could help you out though. Also you can visit the Kubrick site or read the book I haven't read it but I heard it gives better insight of the meaning of the ending.

Anyway for me I thought the ending theme of Thus Spake Zarathustra was a give away.

[QUOTE="hip-hop-cola2"]It gets you thinking, is he begging for his life or is he just Taking to best course of action to save it. I would have said the latter til he starts his song....

kimbokasteniv

Its a cold way of looking at it (but the right way), I still think there is some ambiguity there. Blame "A.I". Just can't watch a computer die without thinking of a innocent child lol.

One of the most overblown pieces of cinema trash I have seen in my life. I bet it would be good high on drugs... but sober, it isn't.

foxhound_fox

Its like you just raped my heart....

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[QUOTE="Scalien26"]And the whole point of the ending is that you're not supposed to get it. Clarke and Kubrick have never given an interpretation from what I've seen.Scalien26

Just because that's the point of the ending doesn't make it a good ending.

As I said, the giant space baby isn't art-it's just a goddamn giant space baby. There is no legitimate reason for it to be there.

The central portion is, as I said before, however, amazing in artistry, story-telling, and...well...everything.

Yeah, I probably worded it wrong... Dave turns into the starchild for no real reason. I'd like to think it's because when he enters the monolith, he evolves, much like the apes did when they encountered the monolith at the beginning... or something. I dunno. Anyway, Kubrick is the master. Need to see more of his stuff...

thepwninator

Oh, yeah. I've seen that. Peter Sellers was awesome. Wouldn't have known it was him in all three roles if I didn't already know ahead of time. I also saw Full Metal Jacket, but that was a long time ago. I've probably started watching The Shining three times but I can never seem to finish it... I also wanna see Spartacus, The Killing, Paths of Glory, Eyes Wide Shut, and A Clockwork Orange.

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Scalien26

Oh, yeah. I've seen that. Peter Sellers was awesome. Wouldn't have known it was him in all three roles if I didn't already know ahead of time. I also saw Full Metal Jacket, but that was a long time ago. I've probably started watching The Shining three times but I can never seem to finish it... I also wanna see Spartacus, The Killing, Paths of Glory, Eyes Wide Shut, and A Clockwork Orange.

Yeah, I think he directed 19 feature-length films... too bad he didn't live to do AI. It would have been way better in his hands instead of Spielberg's.

Yeah, I think he directed 19 feature-length films... too bad he didn't live to do AI. It would have been way better in his hands instead of Spielberg's.

Scalien26

Oh, yeah. I've seen that. Peter Sellers was awesome. Wouldn't have known it was him in all three roles if I didn't already know ahead of time. I also saw Full Metal Jacket, but that was a long time ago. I've probably started watching The Shining three times but I can never seem to finish it... I also wanna see Spartacus, The Killing, Paths of Glory, Eyes Wide Shut, and A Clockwork Orange.

Scalien26

With Full metal jacket, I felt kubrick was to good for his own good. It so flawless that as a war film I didn't like it, its still a brilliant film though.

Strange that I didn't feel the same way about Apocalyspe now, It just seemed to work better while still looking amazing.

Oh, yeah. I've seen that. Peter Sellers was awesome. Wouldn't have known it was him in all three roles if I didn't already know ahead of time. I also saw Full Metal Jacket, but that was a long time ago. I've probably started watching The Shining three times but I can never seem to finish it... I also wanna see Spartacus, The Killing, Paths of Glory, Eyes Wide Shut, and A Clockwork Orange.

Scalien26

Do yourself a favor and see A Clockwork Orange, it's Stanley Kubrick's best film (it's also my all-time favorite film).

It can be interpreted in many different ways. Here's a site that could help you out though. Also you can visit the Kubrick site or read the book I haven't read it but I heard it gives better insight of the meaning of the ending.

Anyway for me I thought the ending theme of Thus Spake Zarathustra was a give away.

Overrated_Hero

I don't know half the stuff Kubrick is trying to convey with this film. That's the case with most films I see. But I think this film is brilliant because when I see it, it really silences my mind and makes something inside me warm up. It is that undescribable feeling that only the films I consider best can give me.

I don't know half the stuff Kubrick is trying to convey with this film. That's the case with most films I see. But I think this film is brilliant because when I see it, it really silences my mind and makes something inside me warm up. It is that undescribable feeling that only the films I consider best can give me.

ernie1989

For the time it was a technical marvel.

And.... HAL is pretty cool. ;)

It had ground-breaking special effects and a great villain in HAL.

But unfortunately large sections of it are mind-numbingly boring, and the ending is pretty stupid.

Maybe it's because of ?

That's what I've seen, most people who loved 2001 loved HAL 9000. Hell, there was even an obvious reference to him in WALL-E.

ChrisSpartan117