3rd grader gets a week of detention for possession.....of a Jolly Rancher??!!!

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#1 psychobrew
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What is this world coming to? What's wrong with the school officials that think this is ok? I can't believe they are really that drunk with what little power they have.

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He didn't have enough for the class.

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#3 XilePrincess
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That's just sad. I could see that sort of punishment if she beat the crap out of another kid but over one piece of candy? Her parents SHOULD move her to private school, that's not right at all.
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This is a complete oversimplification of the issue. I'm an educator so I can relate to the situation we are looking at here. The school creates a policy (at the behest of state regulations and rules that are always changing), the rule is only healthy foods are allowed in school (a laudable goal on it's face). The issue of having candy in school is a very trivial matter, you know it, and I know it. However this is a new policy and has to be enforced, principals and teachers don't have latitude to simply throw away a school board mandated policy, if they don't enforce it they have the potential to lose their jobs. As I said, this is a trivial matter, it's candy not a rifle. School administrators come up with a logical punishment to correct behavior of students breaking the rule. Since we are talking about a trivial thing here, the punishment was probably very trivial. As a result, the kids did as they pleased, unphased by the "non-punishment" that was proportional to the offense. Administrators have no choice but to tighten punishments to bring the kids into compliance with the new rule. A student continues to break the rule not ready for the escalation (which I'm quite sure was spelled out to them before hand) and gets the punishment. I'm not saying I agree with the rule, I don't think we should be regulating every single aspect of a student life, but I'm not a rule maker. These very brief stories don't give you any of the backstory and don't fully explain the situation, it's easy to think this is just an insane power grab by administration but if you delve deeper I'm sure you will find much cooler heads than you would expect.
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#5 Gonzafan
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I believe there is no candy food like gum that can cause a mess - candy can make sticky stuff.

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#6 Colin1192
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Well... he could have choked

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Holy freakin crap! ... I would pull my kids from that school SO fast the walls would fall down. ... For a Jolly Rancher... ... and look what they did to the girls brother?! Made him sit in a room and stare at a wall ALL DAY?.... for a STUPID BELT?!!! .... And the parents even sent a letter to explain why he didnt have it!!! ... Not enough !!!!!'s.... !!!!!!!!!! Outrage!
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#8 jimmyjammer69
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I'm going to guess that this is sensationalised rubbish and that there's a fair bit more to the story than we're hearing.
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[QUOTE="mfp16"]This is a complete oversimplification of the issue. I'm an educator so I can relate to the situation we are looking at here. The school creates a policy (at the behest of state regulations and rules that are always changing), the rule is only healthy foods are allowed in school (a laudable goal on it's face). The issue of having candy in school is a very trivial matter, you know it, and I know it. However this is a new policy and has to be enforced, principals and teachers don't have latitude to simply throw away a school board mandated policy, if they don't enforce it they have the potential to lose their jobs. As I said, this is a trivial matter, it's candy not a rifle. School administrators come up with a logical punishment to correct behavior of students breaking the rule. Since we are talking about a trivial thing here, the punishment was probably very trivial. As a result, the kids did as they pleased, unphased by the "non-punishment" that was proportional to the offense. Administrators have no choice but to tighten punishments to bring the kids into compliance with the new rule. A student continues to break the rule not ready for the escalation (which I'm quite sure was spelled out to them before hand) and gets the punishment. I'm not saying I agree with the rule, I don't think we should be regulating every single aspect of a student life, but I'm not a rule maker. These very brief stories don't give you any of the backstory and don't fully explain the situation, it's easy to think this is just an insane power grab by administration but if you delve deeper I'm sure you will find much cooler heads than you would expect.

You dont think detention is too harsh? ... Why not just either take the candy away, and send a warning note home? ... Hmm? Instead of 1 piece of candy = your going to hell?
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Taxpayer money should go to Hershey's instead of that school.
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This is a complete oversimplification of the issue. I'm an educator so I can relate to the situation we are looking at here. The school creates a policy (at the behest of state regulations and rules that are always changing), the rule is only healthy foods are allowed in school (a laudable goal on it's face). The issue of having candy in school is a very trivial matter, you know it, and I know it. However this is a new policy and has to be enforced, principals and teachers don't have latitude to simply throw away a school board mandated policy, if they don't enforce it they have the potential to lose their jobs. As I said, this is a trivial matter, it's candy not a rifle. School administrators come up with a logical punishment to correct behavior of students breaking the rule. Since we are talking about a trivial thing here, the punishment was probably very trivial. As a result, the kids did as they pleased, unphased by the "non-punishment" that was proportional to the offense. Administrators have no choice but to tighten punishments to bring the kids into compliance with the new rule. A student continues to break the rule not ready for the escalation (which I'm quite sure was spelled out to them before hand) and gets the punishment. I'm not saying I agree with the rule, I don't think we should be regulating every single aspect of a student life, but I'm not a rule maker. These very brief stories don't give you any of the backstory and don't fully explain the situation, it's easy to think this is just an insane power grab by administration but if you delve deeper I'm sure you will find much cooler heads than you would expect.mfp16
This is a third grader we're talking about. I can see missing a recess, but detention for a week? That's simply crazy. Besides, The state regulators said they had no problem with students bringing candy to school. They said it should be a parrental decision.
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I hope she learned a valuable lesson about muling candy
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You do the crime you pay the time. This harsh punishment well prevent her from going down the slippery slope of drug addiction and prostitution.

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#15 psychobrew
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I'm going to guess that this is sensationalised rubbish and that there's a fair bit more to the story than we're hearing.jimmyjammer69
My mother works in education. She sees this stuff all the time.
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#16 realistic44
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If i was the kid's parent i would sue every single penny from that school.

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You do the crime you pay the time. This harsh punishment well prevent her from going down the slippery slope of drug addiction and prostitution.

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Jolly Ranchers: they destroy families. :P

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#18 realistic44
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You do the crime you pay the time. This harsh punishment well prevent her from going down the slippery slope of drug addiction and prostitution.

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Yeah eating candy eventually leads to robbing banks and smoking weed :roll:

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thats preaty normal...

i got a referal at school for bouncing the ball after the bell rang..

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[QUOTE="kidsmelly"]

You do the crime you pay the time. This harsh punishment well prevent her from going down the slippery slope of drug addiction and prostitution.

realistic44

Yeah eating candy eventually leads to robbing banks and smoking weed :roll:

I'm glad I'm not alone on this.

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#21 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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I hope she learned a valuable lesson about muling candyxaos
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Seriously though a week is crazy

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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="mfp16"]This is a complete oversimplification of the issue. I'm an educator so I can relate to the situation we are looking at here. The school creates a policy (at the behest of state regulations and rules that are always changing), the rule is only healthy foods are allowed in school (a laudable goal on it's face). The issue of having candy in school is a very trivial matter, you know it, and I know it. However this is a new policy and has to be enforced, principals and teachers don't have latitude to simply throw away a school board mandated policy, if they don't enforce it they have the potential to lose their jobs. As I said, this is a trivial matter, it's candy not a rifle. School administrators come up with a logical punishment to correct behavior of students breaking the rule. Since we are talking about a trivial thing here, the punishment was probably very trivial. As a result, the kids did as they pleased, unphased by the "non-punishment" that was proportional to the offense. Administrators have no choice but to tighten punishments to bring the kids into compliance with the new rule. A student continues to break the rule not ready for the escalation (which I'm quite sure was spelled out to them before hand) and gets the punishment. I'm not saying I agree with the rule, I don't think we should be regulating every single aspect of a student life, but I'm not a rule maker. These very brief stories don't give you any of the backstory and don't fully explain the situation, it's easy to think this is just an insane power grab by administration but if you delve deeper I'm sure you will find much cooler heads than you would expect.

You dont think detention is too harsh? ... Why not just either take the candy away, and send a warning note home? ... Hmm? Instead of 1 piece of candy = your going to hell?

Kids do not follow rules without real consequences. Let me give you an example I experienced. Headphones and music are not allowed during the school day. Students would ignore the rule of course and do as they please. The standard response was to tell students to take them off. Heres the scenario: 1. Student walks down hallway with ipod. 2. Teacher sees student listening to the ipod and tells student to put it away. 3. Student walks 50ft down the hall and puts the music back in. 4. Return to Step 1 Taking the ipod away didn't work either, the student would retrieve the ipod at the end of the day and repeat the same process tomorrow. The rational response to the rule-breaking didn't work. Punishment had to escalate past the rational point simply because students REFUSE to follow a rule without a consequence that is truly a consequence. In this case (with the candy) you have the same issue. The rational response to the rule simply doesn't work, you need to have a real consequence. Lets be serious here, the girl misses recess... she isn't trodden out to the playground and beaten, she missed recess. Boo Hoo... if she didn't want to miss recess she shouldn't have had candy in school. The rule was known ahead of time and she knew she couldn't have the candy but made a conscious choice to break the rule.
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I seriously think schools need serious re-evaluating. This is like the 5th case in a week of a school doing something utterly brain dead stupid.

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#24 realistic44
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I actually heard a similar story where a kid got suspended for three days for farting :P

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Someone needs to find a way to distribute candy to every kid before school, and then dare these Nazis to punish all of them.

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[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="mfp16"]This is a complete oversimplification of the issue. I'm an educator so I can relate to the situation we are looking at here. The school creates a policy (at the behest of state regulations and rules that are always changing), the rule is only healthy foods are allowed in school (a laudable goal on it's face). The issue of having candy in school is a very trivial matter, you know it, and I know it. However this is a new policy and has to be enforced, principals and teachers don't have latitude to simply throw away a school board mandated policy, if they don't enforce it they have the potential to lose their jobs. As I said, this is a trivial matter, it's candy not a rifle. School administrators come up with a logical punishment to correct behavior of students breaking the rule. Since we are talking about a trivial thing here, the punishment was probably very trivial. As a result, the kids did as they pleased, unphased by the "non-punishment" that was proportional to the offense. Administrators have no choice but to tighten punishments to bring the kids into compliance with the new rule. A student continues to break the rule not ready for the escalation (which I'm quite sure was spelled out to them before hand) and gets the punishment. I'm not saying I agree with the rule, I don't think we should be regulating every single aspect of a student life, but I'm not a rule maker. These very brief stories don't give you any of the backstory and don't fully explain the situation, it's easy to think this is just an insane power grab by administration but if you delve deeper I'm sure you will find much cooler heads than you would expect.

You dont think detention is too harsh? ... Why not just either take the candy away, and send a warning note home? ... Hmm? Instead of 1 piece of candy = your going to hell?

Kids do not follow rules without real consequences. Let me give you an example I experienced. Headphones and music are not allowed during the school day. Students would ignore the rule of course and do as they please. The standard response was to tell students to take them off. Heres the scenario: 1. Student walks down hallway with ipod. 2. Teacher sees student listening to the ipod and tells student to put it away. 3. Student walks 50ft down the hall and puts the music back in. 4. Return to Step 1 Taking the ipod away didn't work either, the student would retrieve the ipod at the end of the day and repeat the same process tomorrow. The rational response to the rule-breaking didn't work. Punishment had to escalate past the rational point simply because students REFUSE to follow a rule without a consequence that is truly a consequence. In this case (with the candy) you have the same issue. The rational response to the rule simply doesn't work, you need to have a real consequence. Lets be serious here, the girl misses recess... she isn't trodden out to the playground and beaten, she missed recess. Boo Hoo... if she didn't want to miss recess she shouldn't have had candy in school. The rule was known ahead of time and she knew she couldn't have the candy but made a conscious choice to break the rule.

She hasn't done anything wrong :| it's not like she keeps breaking the rules over and over
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hahaha school is so much fun
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#28 R0cky_Racc00n
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Actually, if read closely, the story says that the Jolly Rancher had crack in it.

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[QUOTE="mfp16"]This is a complete oversimplification of the issue. I'm an educator so I can relate to the situation we are looking at here. The school creates a policy (at the behest of state regulations and rules that are always changing), the rule is only healthy foods are allowed in school (a laudable goal on it's face). The issue of having candy in school is a very trivial matter, you know it, and I know it. However this is a new policy and has to be enforced, principals and teachers don't have latitude to simply throw away a school board mandated policy, if they don't enforce it they have the potential to lose their jobs. As I said, this is a trivial matter, it's candy not a rifle. School administrators come up with a logical punishment to correct behavior of students breaking the rule. Since we are talking about a trivial thing here, the punishment was probably very trivial. As a result, the kids did as they pleased, unphased by the "non-punishment" that was proportional to the offense. Administrators have no choice but to tighten punishments to bring the kids into compliance with the new rule. A student continues to break the rule not ready for the escalation (which I'm quite sure was spelled out to them before hand) and gets the punishment. I'm not saying I agree with the rule, I don't think we should be regulating every single aspect of a student life, but I'm not a rule maker. These very brief stories don't give you any of the backstory and don't fully explain the situation, it's easy to think this is just an insane power grab by administration but if you delve deeper I'm sure you will find much cooler heads than you would expect.psychobrew
This is a third grader we're talking about. I can see missing a recess, but detention for a week? That's simply crazy. Besides, The state regulators said they had no problem with students bringing candy to school. They said it should be a parrental decision.

The punishment was missing recess, that is what detention is at the school, read the article before making a judgement.
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Someone needs to find a way to distribute candy to every kid before school, and then dare these Nazis to punish all of them.

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That sounds somewhat creepy. Hey kids want some candy come here to my van 8)

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I seriously think schools need serious re-evaluating. This is like the 5th case in a week of a school doing something utterly brain dead stupid.

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[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"] You dont think detention is too harsh? ... Why not just either take the candy away, and send a warning note home? ... Hmm? Instead of 1 piece of candy = your going to hell?XD4NTESINF3RNOX
Kids do not follow rules without real consequences. Let me give you an example I experienced. Headphones and music are not allowed during the school day. Students would ignore the rule of course and do as they please. The standard response was to tell students to take them off. Heres the scenario: 1. Student walks down hallway with ipod. 2. Teacher sees student listening to the ipod and tells student to put it away. 3. Student walks 50ft down the hall and puts the music back in. 4. Return to Step 1 Taking the ipod away didn't work either, the student would retrieve the ipod at the end of the day and repeat the same process tomorrow. The rational response to the rule-breaking didn't work. Punishment had to escalate past the rational point simply because students REFUSE to follow a rule without a consequence that is truly a consequence. In this case (with the candy) you have the same issue. The rational response to the rule simply doesn't work, you need to have a real consequence. Lets be serious here, the girl misses recess... she isn't trodden out to the playground and beaten, she missed recess. Boo Hoo... if she didn't want to miss recess she shouldn't have had candy in school. The rule was known ahead of time and she knew she couldn't have the candy but made a conscious choice to break the rule.

She hasn't done anything wrong :| it's not like she keeps breaking the rules over and over

...but she did, the rule is no candy, she had candy. It's a pretty cut and dry example of a school rule being broken.
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="mfp16"]This is a complete oversimplification of the issue. I'm an educator so I can relate to the situation we are looking at here. The school creates a policy (at the behest of state regulations and rules that are always changing), the rule is only healthy foods are allowed in school (a laudable goal on it's face). The issue of having candy in school is a very trivial matter, you know it, and I know it. However this is a new policy and has to be enforced, principals and teachers don't have latitude to simply throw away a school board mandated policy, if they don't enforce it they have the potential to lose their jobs. As I said, this is a trivial matter, it's candy not a rifle. School administrators come up with a logical punishment to correct behavior of students breaking the rule. Since we are talking about a trivial thing here, the punishment was probably very trivial. As a result, the kids did as they pleased, unphased by the "non-punishment" that was proportional to the offense. Administrators have no choice but to tighten punishments to bring the kids into compliance with the new rule. A student continues to break the rule not ready for the escalation (which I'm quite sure was spelled out to them before hand) and gets the punishment. I'm not saying I agree with the rule, I don't think we should be regulating every single aspect of a student life, but I'm not a rule maker. These very brief stories don't give you any of the backstory and don't fully explain the situation, it's easy to think this is just an insane power grab by administration but if you delve deeper I'm sure you will find much cooler heads than you would expect.mfp16
This is a third grader we're talking about. I can see missing a recess, but detention for a week? That's simply crazy. Besides, The state regulators said they had no problem with students bringing candy to school. They said it should be a parrental decision.

The punishment was missing recess, that is what detention is at the school, read the article before making a judgement.

Good grief, I did. There's a difference between one week of going to detention for lunch and recess and missing one recess.
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You know, if it was gum, I'd fully support capital punishment in this.

In all seriousness, I ****ING HATE GUM!!!!

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Candy and gum, they say, can cause a mess.

I thought this part was stupid.

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That's ridiculous, a stern talking to after class would suffice.
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Must be a slow news day.
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="mfp16"] Kids do not follow rules without real consequences. Let me give you an example I experienced. Headphones and music are not allowed during the school day. Students would ignore the rule of course and do as they please. The standard response was to tell students to take them off. Heres the scenario: 1. Student walks down hallway with ipod. 2. Teacher sees student listening to the ipod and tells student to put it away. 3. Student walks 50ft down the hall and puts the music back in. 4. Return to Step 1 Taking the ipod away didn't work either, the student would retrieve the ipod at the end of the day and repeat the same process tomorrow. The rational response to the rule-breaking didn't work. Punishment had to escalate past the rational point simply because students REFUSE to follow a rule without a consequence that is truly a consequence. In this case (with the candy) you have the same issue. The rational response to the rule simply doesn't work, you need to have a real consequence. Lets be serious here, the girl misses recess... she isn't trodden out to the playground and beaten, she missed recess. Boo Hoo... if she didn't want to miss recess she shouldn't have had candy in school. The rule was known ahead of time and she knew she couldn't have the candy but made a conscious choice to break the rule. mfp16
She hasn't done anything wrong :| it's not like she keeps breaking the rules over and over

...but she did, the rule is no candy, she had candy. It's a pretty cut and dry example of a school rule being broken.

It's an example of an assanine rule being broken by someone to young to comprehend the consequences.
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#39 mfp16
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That's ridiculous, a stern talking to after class would suffice.awesomeface
But this is the problem... it just isn't. Stern talking to after class does absolutely nothing for a large population of a school. I'm not saying I agree completely with the punishment or the rule, but I understand why a punishment like this was given.
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#40 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="haggard_korn"]

Candy and gum, they say, can cause a mess.

I thought this part was stupid.

LoL. Yeah. All food can cause a mess. Have you ever tried to clean up grape juice? They should just ban all food and drink so they can lay off the Janitor.
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#41 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="xaos"]I hope she learned a valuable lesson about muling candyXD4NTESINF3RNOX

**pic that looks like my brother**

Seriously though a week is crazy

... that looks like my brother. .... a LOT like my brother.... .... is that my brother? O_o

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#42 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="haggard_korn"]

Candy and gum, they say, can cause a mess.

I thought this part was stupid.

LoL. Yeah. All food can cause a mess. Have you ever tried to clean up grape juice? They should just ban all food and drink so they can lay off the Janitor.

Paper can also make a mess they should ban homework :P
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#43 Bikouchu35
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Hands are also weapons!! They should be suspended !!

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#44 mfp16
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[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"] She hasn't done anything wrong :| it's not like she keeps breaking the rules over and over psychobrew
...but she did, the rule is no candy, she had candy. It's a pretty cut and dry example of a school rule being broken.

It's an example of an assanine rule being broken by someone to young to comprehend the consequences.

You don't like a 3rd grader understands being told if you bring candy you miss recess? I think you are giving the students too little credit. You also need to remember those being tasked with enforcing the rule (as a requirement of continuing their careers) probably had very little to do with the policy. This was a government mandated policy supported by a school district. If you are in charge of the school, you are required to follow those rules and implement those policies (no matter how unpopular or "assanine" they may find them). You better believe when my administration tasks us with a new rule or policy I enforce it no matter my personal feelings on the matter, I'l like to be able to pay my mortgage next month.
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#45 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="haggard_korn"]

Candy and gum, they say, can cause a mess.

I thought this part was stupid.

LoL. Yeah. All food can cause a mess. Have you ever tried to clean up grape juice? They should just ban all food and drink so they can lay off the Janitor.

Paper can also make a mess they should ban homework :P

Oh, I agree. Have you ever tried to clean ink off the desks? Time to ban pens and markers too. Using the bathroom causes a huge mess. Let's get rid of bathrooms!!!
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#46 Vaasman
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Nothing says promote learning and education like banning candy is schools.

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#47 Immortalica
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Now, that's just silly.
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#48 mrbojangles25
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I love Texans...

...but I will never, ever, understand Texas

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and i though texas was pro american

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#50 mfp16
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="psychobrew"] LoL. Yeah. All food can cause a mess. Have you ever tried to clean up grape juice? They should just ban all food and drink so they can lay off the Janitor.psychobrew
Paper can also make a mess they should ban homework :P

Oh, I agree. Have you ever tried to clean ink off the desks? Time to ban pens and markers too. Using the bathroom causes a huge mess. Let's get rid of bathrooms!!!

If we want to get ridiculous and silly about this, maybe you should visit my classroom and count the disgusting chewed gum wads under the desks. Then you can count all the messes caused by ink and markers (none), besides the point one is covered in saliva and the other is not. Like it or not, high school students are not responsible on the whole, it's understandable that janitors do not want to clean up messes caused by candy (which isn't required for the safe operation of a school) as opposed to a bathroom which is.