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#1 DeadApeBladder
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For having a ponytail. Article here. I think that is a little crazy to suspend a 4 year old because he doesn't want his hair cut. What do you think about this? What would you do if it was your 4 year old son that got suspended?

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#2 clayron
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I would be furious.
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#3 Nerd_Man
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Well he should have gotten his hair cut if it was clearly listed in the dress code.
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#4 aransom
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You're never too young to learn that breaking the rules has consequences.

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#5 Nintendevil
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Failure for not mentioning if this was private. If it was public, I'd sue the hell out of them, if this was private, well then this is more proof that private schools are bull****.

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#6 Mousetaches
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Zero-Tolerance policies are the bane of education
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#7 Head_of_games
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What, so no one at the school could have long hair? Not even the girls? Because I see no reason he couldn't have a man-tail if the chicks can have a pony-tail.
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#8 michael_1234576
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He should have just cut his hair, dang hippie.
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#9 DeadApeBladder
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Well he should have gotten his hair cut if it was clearly listed in the dress code.Nerd_Man

Yea, if it was in the dress code then yes he really has no choice but, for that to be in the dress code I think is a little silly. His hair isn't hurting anyone.

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#10 aransom
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if this was private, well then this is more proof that private schools are bull****.

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Since when is having high standards and enforcing them bull****?

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#11 Nintendevil
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[QUOTE="Nintendevil"]if this was private, well then this is more proof that private schools are bull****.

aransom

Since when is having high standards and enforcing them bull****?

It's not the standards that are the problem, it's the way private schools present themselves as the better alternative to public when they've got terrible guidelines with no benefit in contrast.

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#12 bobbetybob
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"He's just too much of a distraction to remain in class." -.- wut. Have they never met a 4 year old before? Then can be distracted by an interesting cloud, a dog in the playground or shiny things. If a 4 year old is being distracted that's the teacher fault for most likely being more boring than a lecture on the internal functions of a sloths nose.
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#13 194197844077667059316682358889
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Not so hard now, are ya punk :x
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I think it's stupid. School is for education and not for fashion. These new stupid rules is starting to make schools become a fashion school.

They need to start focusing on teaching these kids and not focusing on other things like hair and what they wear and make dumb excuses. lol they say they are distracting :roll: then what is not distracting? Having your hair at a certain length is distracting to me because of its stupidness. I also find it distracting when the teachers are too old ugh those wrinkles bug me.

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#15 kyleali11
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Unbelievable. They have to be absolutely crazy to enforce a rule like that in pre-school and to add to the fact that now they made the child "too much of a distraction to remain in class" that board should be ashamed.
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The education situation in America is a serious problem.
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#17 kyleali11
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You're never too young to learn that breaking the rules has consequences.

aransom
Honestly? Do you really expect a four year old child to pay attention to the regulations concerning his school's hair policy?
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The education situation in America is a serious problem. EMOEVOLUTION
That's quote-worthy. Seriously, it's really bad.
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#19 quiglythegreat
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clearly a bad influence on his peers.
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#21 the_foreign_guy
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While harsh, it's best to learn early. In the work place, you represent your company. If the company has a dress code, you should follow it. It keeps the company's image up. You don't want your police officers to be dressed in a uniform that's unprofessional or look like a slob. If an officer were to dress like that, the public's perception on the police officer may reflect their own opinions on the rest of police officers and how they behave.
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#22 EMOEVOLUTION
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While harsh, it's best to learn early. In the work place, you represent your company. If the company has a dress code, you should follow it. It keeps the company's image up. You don't want your police officers to be dressed in a uniform that's unprofessional or look like a slob. If an officer were to dress like that, the public's perception on the police officer may reflect their own opinions on the rest of police officers and how they behave. the_foreign_guy
He's a 4 year old.. he's not a businessman.. His parents should be responsible for teaching him appropriate styles of dress and hair style.. not the school. And a child learn consequences from their actions not by being punished. But my life expirences. A suspension for this reason.. is just silly and absurd.

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#23 DeadApeBladder
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While harsh, it's best to learn early. In the work place, you represent your company. If the company has a dress code, you should follow it. It keeps the company's image up. You don't want your police officers to be dressed in a uniform that's unprofessional or look like a slob. If an officer were to dress like that, the public's perception on the police officer may reflect their own opinions on the rest of police officers and how they behave. the_foreign_guy

I see where you are coming from about dress codes but, he is 4 years old and at that age it shouldn't matter because he's still a child and probably don't even understand the reason behind being suspended for having the ponytail.

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#24 F1_2004
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Dang hippie kids. I'm sure his parents were told of the dress code. Kids need discipline.
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#25 tsduv21
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Plain stupid. I'm proud of his mom to be honest.
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#26 the_foreign_guy
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I see where you are coming from about dress codes but, he is 4 years old and at that age it shouldn't matter because he's still a child and probably don't even understand the reason behind being suspended for having the ponytail.

DeadApeBladder

I do admit it's really harsh and the punishment would have been better if he was older. The world is full of double standards though. Age shouldn't matter, except for some things. Males can't do some things females do, females can't do some things males do, but males and females are both equal. It's a weird world.

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#27 Jaks_Secret
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Private schools get to make up their own rules, and if he didn't abide by them, it's his parents' fault.
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#28 tony2077ca
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Plain stupid. I'm proud of his mom to be honest.tsduv21
same here
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#29 DeadApeBladder
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[QUOTE="DeadApeBladder"]I see where you are coming from about dress codes but, he is 4 years old and at that age it shouldn't matter because he's still a child and probably don't even understand the reason behind being suspended for having the ponytail.

the_foreign_guy

I do admit it's really harsh and the punishment would have been better if he was older. The world is full of double standards though. Age shouldn't matter, except for some things. Males can't do some things females do, females can't do some things males do, but males and females are both equal. It's a weird world.

I agree with you. Some schools are just out of hand with some of these ridiculous rules.

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#30 Jaks_Secret
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[QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"]

[QUOTE="DeadApeBladder"]I see where you are coming from about dress codes but, he is 4 years old and at that age it shouldn't matter because he's still a child and probably don't even understand the reason behind being suspended for having the ponytail.

DeadApeBladder

I do admit it's really harsh and the punishment would have been better if he was older. The world is full of double standards though. Age shouldn't matter, except for some things. Males can't do some things females do, females can't do some things males do, but males and females are both equal. It's a weird world.

I agree with you. Some schools are just out of hand with some of these ridiculous rules.

That's not the point. As ridiculous as the rule is, it's still a rule, and because the child didn't abide by it he deserves being suspended.
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#31 n00bkid
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I would knock someone out for that stupidity!
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#32 DeadApeBladder
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[QUOTE="DeadApeBladder"]

[QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"] I do admit it's really harsh and the punishment would have been better if he was older. The world is full of double standards though. Age shouldn't matter, except for some things. Males can't do some things females do, females can't do some things males do, but males and females are both equal. It's a weird world.

Jaks_Secret

I agree with you. Some schools are just out of hand with some of these ridiculous rules.

That's not the point. As ridiculous as the rule is, it's still a rule, and because the child didn't abide by it he deserves being suspended.

Wow, he's 4 years old and not hurting anyone by having long hair. I can understand if he was older and maybe understood completely the whole reason he was being suspended but not a 4 year old.

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#33 ConformestClone
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If it is in the dress code, then the parents agreed to it by having their children attend that school. If you want to change the dress code, don't just wait until you break a rule.
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#34 Treflis
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A dress code in pre-school? Seriously?
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#35 Jaks_Secret
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Wow, he's 4 years old and not hurting anyone by having long hair. I can understand if he was older and maybe understood completely the whole reason he was being suspended but not a 4 year old.DeadApeBladder
Again, that's not the point. By attending the school, the parents agreed to the rules of the school. Long hair is against school policy, the kid had long hair, he got suspended. It's just.
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#36 deactivated-5c37d3adcd094
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That's pretty terrible. But then again, board members of private schools are pretentious old farts.

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#37 DeadApeBladder
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[QUOTE="DeadApeBladder"]Wow, he's 4 years old and not hurting anyone by having long hair. I can understand if he was older and maybe understood completely the whole reason he was being suspended but not a 4 year old.Jaks_Secret
Again, that's not the point. By attending the school, the parents agreed to the rules of the school. Long hair is against school policy, the kid had long hair, he got suspended. It's just.

And all I am saying is that the rule is ridiculous especially to suspend a 4 year old. I did say in an earlier post that if, it was in school policy he would have no choice but to cut it if he wants to attend school. I am just saying I don't see the big deal with a boy having longer hair than his male classmates. I'm not trying to argue just stating my opinion.

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#38 Serraph105
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just another story proving that zero tolerance policies actually encourage teachers to stop using logic and reason when dealing with issues (or in this case non issues).

I'm just glad my old high school hasn't gotten as bad as that. My brother told me yesterday about a fight that happened there and one kid literally jumped in and grabbed a couple of kids and threw them out of the fight. It turned out however that the zero tolerance policies in my state say that if anyone does anything more than a "hug" (full nelson? I'm not sure) they are technically an aggressor. However instead of suspending the kid (which by law he should have been) the principle thanked him and said he should get back to class.

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#39 Jaks_Secret
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And all I am saying is that the rule is ridiculous especially to suspend a 4 year old. I did say in an earlier post that if, it was in school policy he would have no choice but to cut it if he wants to attend school. I am just saying I don't see the big deal with a boy having longer hair than his male classmates. I'm not trying to argue just stating my opinion.DeadApeBladder
Fair enough.
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#40 kandoriasu2
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I don't think it was because of the pony tail. The finger painting she made was not made to the school specifications and therefor lead to her expulsion. That is insane and the school... burned down to the ground by THE PONY TAIL ARSONIST...........I'm kidding, sue the heck out of them!

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#41 GeForce2187
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What is an "independent school district"? Is it public or private? A public school district wouldn't have the authority to do this I don't think. A private school is different however.
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#42 leviathan91
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What's wrong with guys having long hair? I would sue them and send my kid to a different school.

Failure for not mentioning if this was private. If it was public, I'd sue the hell out of them, if this was private, well then this is more proof that private schools are bull****.

Nintendevil

One instance makes private schools bull****? Private schools perform more adequately than public schools. It's the dress code that can be a problem. And it's not like public schools don't have the same rules. In fact, a kid at my school was suspended because he made something in art that looked like a pipe even though it was something entirely different. There are also rules regulating dress and even bringing in something that looks like a gun can result in dire consequences.

If you ask me, it's not because of public or private schools but rather because people make stupid rules to make the other people "safe" but the majority of other people are paranoid and stupid. even though it's just making things worse.

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#43 fatcat13sep
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i hate this stuff i cant work at some places cause of my hair length if i wanted i think this sexism and is the same thing as if saying someone cant go to a school cause their gay plus i love my medium long hair and so do the ladies ;P

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#44 UT_Wrestler
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What's the point of having a dress code if it's not enforced?
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#45 fatcat13sep
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[QUOTE="DeadApeBladder"]I see where you are coming from about dress codes but, he is 4 years old and at that age it shouldn't matter because he's still a child and probably don't even understand the reason behind being suspended for having the ponytail.

the_foreign_guy

I do admit it's really harsh and the punishment would have been better if he was older. The world is full of double standards though. Age shouldn't matter, except for some things. Males can't do some things females do, females can't do some things males do, but males and females are both equal. It's a weird world.

im pretty sure there is a law about this cause of what happened with blacks and whites and everyone has to be treated equal so that means males should be treated exactly like females then

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#46 UT_Wrestler
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What is an "independent school district"? Is it public or private? A public school district wouldn't have the authority to do this I don't think. A private school is different however.GeForce2187
"Independent" can still be a public school district. And actually, public schools do reserve the right to enforce their dress codes. Rules are pointless if you can't enforce them.
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#47 RobboElRobbo
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Well, ponytails are gross so...

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#48 UT_Wrestler
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[QUOTE="fatcat13sep"]

[QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"]

[QUOTE="DeadApeBladder"]I see where you are coming from about dress codes but, he is 4 years old and at that age it shouldn't matter because he's still a child and probably don't even understand the reason behind being suspended for having the ponytail.

I do admit it's really harsh and the punishment would have been better if he was older. The world is full of double standards though. Age shouldn't matter, except for some things. Males can't do some things females do, females can't do some things males do, but males and females are both equal. It's a weird world.

im pretty sure there is a law about this cause of what happened with blacks and whites and everyone has to be treated equal so that means males should be treated exactly like females then

You can't change your race, so that's completely different than complying with a dress code.
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#49 Flame_Blade88
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Well it's the dress code so he really had to comply to continue to go to that school. It's still pretty stupid, but hey when push comes to shove...
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#50 XilePrincess
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That's stupid as hell. I'd go into the school and demand every girl who had long enough hair to make a ponytail also be forced to cut it off, or I'd get right up their cracks with the sexism and discrimination of the situation. I'd enjoy every second of watching them squirm.