Both decades have great alternative bands, but the one thing that confuses me is what exactly is alternative music? It sounds like a very vague genre name.
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i got to go with the 90's on this one
spawnassasin
What are some of your favorite 90's alternative bands? Here are some of mine.
Dinosaur Jr.
Sonic Youth
Pavement
Flaming Lips
Giant Sand
Beck
Afghan Whigs
The Breeders
Belle and Sebastian
Vic Chesnutt
Elliot Smith
The Fall
Julian Cope
Red House Painters
I've always kind of thought it was just a general term for music that didn't really fit into the limited genres we had back then. Back then(from my recollection) music was limited to oldies, rock, metal, grunge, pop, rap, country, etc... We didn't have things like post-grunge, folk pop, trance, black metal, etc. I kinda thought it was like the modern day Indie genre. I'm probably completely wrong though. More on topic, I'm voting 90s on this one. The 80s had some great and fun stuff, but didn't seem to break ground as much as some of the bands of the 90s. The 90s had The Cranberries, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Matchbox 20, and the Smashing Punkins. Granted, most of the 80s stuff that I listen to is either Glam Rock or Psychadelic Rock etc like David Bowie and Queen.guynamedbilly
Yeah I think the 90s overall had more quality and quantity. Would Prog rock count as alternative then? Brit pop doesn't im sure, but some brit pop bands changed their sound to a more alternative one later like Blur's last two albums 13, and Think Tank.
Alternative is not vague at all. Its just people put a lot of bands in that category. Alternative was basicaly underground rock music that used metal and classic rock influences to create something new (hence the name "New Wave) New wave slowly began to morph itself with different aspects such has rich guitar sounds, dark lyrics that dealt with love and personal loss, it wasnt until Lallopoloza in mid 80's were Janes addiction were the first to give it the current name it has now, "Alternative" and become this cult thing where average people would just pick up a guitar and play (which is also where Grunge came from) and thats the idea of where Alternative came from, a genere that changes and has changed according to its generation.Both decades have great alternative bands, but the one thing that confuses me is what exactly is alternative music? It sounds like a very vague genre name.
Film-Guy
Its too hard to call. 80's had The Cure,Janes Addiction Depeshe Mode, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, The Smiths, New order, Joy Division, Echo and the Bunnymen, Squeeze....ect
90's had The Smashing Pumpkins, Blur, Radiohead, The White Stripes, Oasis, Flaming Lips, Super Furry Animals, 311, The Verve...ect
I can't decide :cry:
80's.
Dead Milkmen
Dead Kennedys
Jane's Addiction
Red Hot Chili Peppers (in their prime)
Suicidal Tendencies
Violent Femmes
The Smiths
I see RHCP as more funk and punk than alt. But they were awesome durring those times.:P80's.
Dead Milkmen
Dead Kennedys
Jane's Addiction
Red Hot Chili Peppers (in their prime)
Suicidal Tendencies
Violent Femmes
The Smiths
br0kenrabbit
I see RHCP as more funk and punk than alt. But they were awesome durring those times.:Pmexicangordo
They went kinda bubble-gum in the 90's. "Music is my aeroplane" wtf?
[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] I see RHCP as more funk and punk than alt. But they were awesome durring those times.:P
br0kenrabbit
They went kinda bubble-gum in the 90's. "Music is my aeroplane" wtf?
Yea tell me about it. I enjoyed Blood Sugar Sex magic, but only because a few songs on the album. Although Californiacation was a great album. Thought it showed really good maturity for the band. However their recent efforts have been horrible. Don't even get me started with Stadium Arcadium. :?[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]
i got to go with the 90's on this one
Film-Guy
What are some of your favorite 90's alternative bands? Here are some of mine.
Dinosaur Jr.
Sonic Youth
Pavement
Flaming Lips
Giant Sand
Beck
Afghan Whigs
The Breeders
Belle and Sebastian
Vic Chesnutt
Elliot Smith
The Fall
Julian Cope
Red House Painters
you named most of them:P
[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]
[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]
i got to go with the 90's on this one
spawnassasin
What are some of your favorite 90's alternative bands? Here are some of mine.
Dinosaur Jr.
Sonic Youth
Pavement
Flaming Lips
Giant Sand
Beck
Afghan Whigs
The Breeders
Belle and Sebastian
Vic Chesnutt
Elliot Smith
The Fall
Julian Cope
Red House Painters
you named most of them:P
Some of those arn't 90's though :P[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]
[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]
What are some of your favorite 90's alternative bands? Here are some of mine.
Dinosaur Jr.
Sonic Youth
Pavement
Flaming Lips
Giant Sand
Beck
Afghan Whigs
The Breeders
Belle and Sebastian
Vic Chesnutt
Elliot Smith
The Fall
Julian Cope
Red House Painters
mexicangordo
you named most of them:P
Some of those arn't 90's though :Phey they did release some good song in the 90s though
Some of those arn't 90's though :P[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]
[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]
you named most of them:P
spawnassasin
hey they did release some good song in the 90s though
Tis true80's edges out the 90's but I like music from both decades. Alternative isn't a vague label though. It's rock music that grew out of punk rock and not the older so called "classic" rock that existed.LJS9502_basic
I have to thank you good sir, you helped get me into that band The Cure. Now I am addicted to them, but for some reason I love their Pornography the most so far, though Disintegration is awesome too. On that note, I am getting more into that band the Chameleons too, what do you think of them?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]80's edges out the 90's but I like music from both decades. Alternative isn't a vague label though. It's rock music that grew out of punk rock and not the older so called "classic" rock that existed.Film-Guy
I have to thank you good sir, you helped get me into that band The Cure. Now I am addicted to them, but for some reason I love their Pornography the most so far, though Disintegration is awesome too. On that note, I am getting more into that band the Chameleons too, what do you think of them?
I like the Chameleons and possess some CD's of theirs. 80's post punk is my favorite.[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]80's edges out the 90's but I like music from both decades. Alternative isn't a vague label though. It's rock music that grew out of punk rock and not the older so called "classic" rock that existed.LJS9502_basic
I have to thank you good sir, you helped get me into that band The Cure. Now I am addicted to them, but for some reason I love their Pornography the most so far, though Disintegration is awesome too. On that note, I am getting more into that band the Chameleons too, what do you think of them?
I like the Chameleons and possess some CD's of theirs. 80's post punk is my favorite.Are there any bands like the Chameleons you can suggest? I have noticed that The Editors sound a bit similar to the chameleons, but I would love to get more into 80s post punk. I am more into 90s music so any knowledge of good 80s bands would be very welcome. Do The Fall count as post punk?
They're not old, but have you heard Interpol? Their first album, Turn on the Bright Lights, is very good. They are reminiscent of 80s post punk bands. Also I very highly recommend Echo and the Bunnymen as well as Joy Division.Are there any bands like the Chameleons you can suggest? I have noticed that The Editors sound a bit similar to the chameleons, but I would love to get more into 80s post punk. I am more into 90s music so any knowledge of good 80s bands would be very welcome. Do The Fall count as post punk?
Film-Guy
They're not old, but have you heard Interpol? Their first album, Turn on the Bright Lights, is very good. They are reminiscent of post punk bands. Also I very highly recommend Echo and the Bunnymen.[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]
Are there any bands like the Chameleons you can suggest? I have noticed that The Editors sound a bit similar to the chameleons, but I would love to get more into 80s post punk. I am more into 90s music so any knowledge of good 80s bands would be very welcome. Do The Fall count as post punk?
Engrish_Major
I know echo and the bunnymen quite well, they are pretty good. I have only heard Interpol's album Antics, which seemed ok.
Turn on the Bright Lights is by far their best, IMO. Also, have you heard Joy Division?I know echo and the bunnymen quite well, they are pretty good. I have only heard Interpol's album Antics, which seemed ok.
Film-Guy
My favourite Alternative artists would be Jeff Buckley, Beck, Coldplay, The Flaming Lips, Placebo and Interpol
So the 90's for me.
[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]Turn on the Bright Lights is by far their best, IMO. Also, have you heard Joy Division?I know echo and the bunnymen quite well, they are pretty good. I have only heard Interpol's album Antics, which seemed ok.
Engrish_Major
Yeah I like them a lot. I actually watched that film about the lead singer Control recently. Good film.
The Editors are a good revival band. As for post punk....Echo and the Bunnymen, Psychedelic Furs, Jesus and Mary Chain, Joy Division, New Order, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, Love and Rockets, Gene Loves Jezebel, Wire, Sonic Yout, Killing Joke, Mission of Burma, Gang of Four, The Birthday Party, Cocteau Twins, Television, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The Smiths, The Mission, The Church, Husker Du, The Pixies, The Replacements,The The, Tones on Tail, The Comsat Angels, The Danse Society and yes The Fall.Are there any bands like the Chameleons you can suggest? I have noticed that The Editors sound a bit similar to the chameleons, but I would love to get more into 80s post punk. I am more into 90s music so any knowledge of good 80s bands would be very welcome. Do The Fall count as post punk?
Film-Guy
For revival bands...Interpol, She Wants Revenge, The Killers, The Bravery, Bloc Party, The Strokes, Franz Ferninand, The Rapture, The Cribs are generally listed as influenced from the earlier bands.
Might find something you like in there.....and you may know many of those bands already.
[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]
i got to go with the 90's on this one
Film-Guy
What are some of your favorite 90's alternative bands? Here are some of mine.
Dinosaur Jr.
Sonic Youth
Pavement
Flaming Lips
Giant Sand
Beck
Afghan Whigs
The Breeders
Belle and Sebastian
Vic Chesnutt
Elliot Smith
The Fall
Julian Cope
Red House Painters
but Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, The Flaming Lips, Giant Sand, The Afghan Whigs and Julian Cope started out in the 80s :?
[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]
[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]
i got to go with the 90's on this one
Forever_Changes
What are some of your favorite 90's alternative bands? Here are some of mine.
Dinosaur Jr.
Sonic Youth
Pavement
Flaming Lips
Giant Sand
Beck
Afghan Whigs
The Breeders
Belle and Sebastian
Vic Chesnutt
Elliot Smith
The Fall
Julian Cope
Red House Painters
but Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, The Flaming Lips, Giant Sand, The Afghan Whigs and Julian Cope started out in the 80s :?
The Fall was a late 70's/early 80's band.....[QUOTE="Forever_Changes"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]
What are some of your favorite 90's alternative bands? Here are some of mine.
Dinosaur Jr.
Sonic Youth
Pavement
Flaming Lips
Giant Sand
Beck
Afghan Whigs
The Breeders
Belle and Sebastian
Vic Chesnutt
Elliot Smith
The Fall
Julian Cope
Red House Painters
LJS9502_basic
but Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, The Flaming Lips, Giant Sand, The Afghan Whigs and Julian Cope started out in the 80s :?
The Fall was a late 70's/early 80's band..... Was? 70s, 80s, 90s, 00sWas? 70s, 80s, 90s, 00sWolfattheDoor34Generally a band is part of the decade when they get their start.
[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]
[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]
i got to go with the 90's on this one
Forever_Changes
What are some of your favorite 90's alternative bands? Here are some of mine.
Dinosaur Jr.
Sonic Youth
Pavement
Flaming Lips
Giant Sand
Beck
Afghan Whigs
The Breeders
Belle and Sebastian
Vic Chesnutt
Elliot Smith
The Fall
Julian Cope
Red House Painters
but Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, The Flaming Lips, Giant Sand, The Afghan Whigs and Julian Cope started out in the 80s :?
You are right about that, but Julian Cope's best music was in the 90s, his 80s stuff was mostly just with his band the teardrop explodes.
Both decades have great alternative bands, but the one thing that confuses me is what exactly is alternative music? It sounds like a very vague genre name.
Film-Guy
So was "Punk" or what later became known as "New Wave". You'd literally have anything in that genre from the Sex Pistols to Blondie to the B-52s.
None of these genres can be easily defined, outside of being formed as a reaction to some other genre.
Generally a band is part of the decade when they get their start. Not really, generally a band is part of the decade in which they're at their best/most productive.[QUOTE="WolfattheDoor34"] Was? 70s, 80s, 90s, 00sLJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Generally a band is part of the decade when they get their start. Not really, generally a band is part of the decade in which they're at their best/most productive. Only if they were entirely unknown at the start. The Fall was not.....[QUOTE="WolfattheDoor34"] Was? 70s, 80s, 90s, 00sWolfattheDoor34
[QUOTE="WolfattheDoor34"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Generally a band is part of the decade when they get their start.Not really, generally a band is part of the decade in which they're at their best/most productive. Only if they were entirely unknown at the start. The Fall was not.....LJS9502_basic
The thread's asking whether you prefer 80's or 90's alternative rock...and that poster said '90's' and listed The Fall. So you can assume that he prefers The Fall's 90's output.
Only if they were entirely unknown at the start. The Fall was not.....[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="WolfattheDoor34"] Not really, generally a band is part of the decade in which they're at their best/most productive.WolfattheDoor34
The thread's asking whether you prefer 80s or 90s alternative rock...and that poster said '90s' and listed The Fall. So you can assume that he prefers The Fall's 90s output.
That's not how it works. When you mention bands you mention the decade they are from. It's always done that way. No one would call the Stones a 2K band but I'll bet they put music out this decade. If he likes The Fall then he likes a band from the late 70's/early 80's like I said. Saying he prefers 90's The Fall over the earlier Fall is a different matter entirely.;)[QUOTE="WolfattheDoor34"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Only if they were entirely unknown at the start. The Fall was not.....LJS9502_basic
The thread's asking whether you prefer 80s or 90s alternative rock...and that poster said '90s' and listed The Fall. So you can assume that he prefers The Fall's 90s output.
That's not how it works. When you mention bands you mention the decade they are from. It's always done that way. No one would call the Stones a 2K band but I'll bet they put music out this decade. If he likes The Fall then he likes a band from the late 70's/early 80's like I said. Saying he prefers 90's The Fall over the earlier Fall is a different matter entirely.;)But you could call The Stones a 70's band if you wanted. It's not a different matter. In a thread like this, you have to factor in what the band produced in each decade. Most would call The Fall an 80's band even though they started in 1977.
IMO Jane's Addiction and Red Hot Chili pepers were much better in the 90s.80's.
Dead Milkmen
Dead Kennedys
Jane's Addiction
Red Hot Chili Peppers (in their prime)
Suicidal Tendencies
Violent Femmes
The Smiths
br0kenrabbit
That's not how it works. When you mention bands you mention the decade they are from. It's always done that way. No one would call the Stones a 2K band but I'll bet they put music out this decade. If he likes The Fall then he likes a band from the late 70's/early 80's like I said. Saying he prefers 90's The Fall over the earlier Fall is a different matter entirely.;)[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="WolfattheDoor34"]
The thread's asking whether you prefer 80s or 90s alternative rock...and that poster said '90s' and listed The Fall. So you can assume that he prefers The Fall's 90s output.
WolfattheDoor34
But you could call The Stones a 70's band if you wanted. It's not a different matter. In a thread like this, you have to factor in what the band produced in each decade. Most would call The Fall an 80's band even though they started in 1977.
That is not how bands are traditionally named.....as for late decades creation....they usually don't have albums out right away. Thus the next decade. *shrugs*I'm just saying it's odd to restrict a band to the decade they started in when the thread is about comparing the music in each...respective...decade.WolfattheDoor34That's how bands are labeled nonetheless.
I'm just saying it's odd to restrict a band to the decade they started in when the thread is about comparing the music in each...respective...decade.WolfattheDoor34
Well I guess some bands put out their best album later on in their life, which is why I would also choose the bands Pulp, and James. They are not alternative really, but their best albums were in the 90s so as an example it works.
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