9/11 - Was is planned? (Different angle)

Ok ok, lemme start off by saying this thread has NOTHING to do with the who. Do not bring up Bush or Terrorists or whoever. No matter if you have evidence or not. I'm not asking that...

I'm asking do you think it was planned. Based on what we see.

Honestly based on just seeing the news that day it did not look like it just happened that way. Like many have said before it fell as if it was imploded. And the beams on the ground were cut on angles facing in to itself.

People usually argue no cause they tie it into the idea of the Gov being behind, but who said they have to be? Whoever did it... point is it looks be staged regardless of the who or the why.

I won't go into all the details about the building and what it can withstand and the talk from experts.

Why do you think it was or wasn't planned. Cause for me, I heard it all but those videos I have seen on the day of when it happened alone was enough for me to make up my mind. Nothing made sense to go along with the idea of it being something not planned / staged

I don't know the layout of NY. Could planes actually fly that close to the buildings so quickly without anyone noticing?

I find it a bit odd. The Government can send mimiltary personell to places in the blink of an eye, but here you have two passenger jets flying low heading for a cluster of buildings and no-one takes a look?

That kinda puts the blame on the Government, but I am just wondering in general.

I don't know the layout of NY. Could planes actually fly that close to the buildings so quickly without anyone noticing?

I find it a bit odd. The Government can send mimiltary personell to places in the blink of an eye, but here you have two passenger jets flying low heading for a cluster of buildings and no-one takes a look?

That kinda puts the blame on the Government, but I am just wondering in general.

DigitalExile

Ok but let's go away from who did it... I understand what you're saying but that talk will lead to a cray heated argument which is not where I wanna go. I just think I don't see how people can think it wasn't planned / staged. Regardless of who did it.

Of course it was planned. Or else it wouldn't have been that many planes at the exact same time.Notsogr8one

Sorry I should be more specific maybe. I mean beyond just the planes I mean the building itself and how it imploded basically. The plan was bigger then just the hijacking this involved the towers too

Well from a general stand point of course it was planned. I mean how many people on any given day decide tohijack an airliner and crash it into two buildings so close together.

It isn't like running into an ex with a new girl at the sametime she's there with a new guy.

[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"]Of course it was planned. Or else it wouldn't have been that many planes at the exact same time.kcpp2b

Sorry I should be more specific maybe. I mean beyond just the planes I mean the building itself and how it imploded basically. The plan was bigger then just the hijacking this involved the towers too

I don't know the layout of NY. Could planes actually fly that close to the buildings so quickly without anyone noticing?

I find it a bit odd. The Government can send mimiltary personell to places in the blink of an eye, but here you have two passenger jets flying low heading for a cluster of buildings and no-one takes a look?

That kinda puts the blame on the Government, but I am just wondering in general.

DigitalExile

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[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"]Of course it was planned. Or else it wouldn't have been that many planes at the exact same time.Notsogr8one

Sorry I should be more specific maybe. I mean beyond just the planes I mean the building itself and how it imploded basically. The plan was bigger then just the hijacking this involved the towers too

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[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"]Of course it was planned. Or else it wouldn't have been that many planes at the exact same time.Notsogr8one

Sorry I should be more specific maybe. I mean beyond just the planes I mean the building itself and how it imploded basically. The plan was bigger then just the hijacking this involved the towers too

Buildings down fall like that after being hit by a plane. They imploded, and quickly. Just like how people do it when they take down old buildings. I don't see how that fall was naturual in terms of it happening because a plane hit it. Especially hearing people who built it talk about how it was designed with the idea of a plane impacting it.

At controlled demolitions there are remnants of the explosives in the rubble, and the people searching for survivors at ground zero said they didnt find anything like that. So no.halfirishhomer

response?

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]At controlled demolitions there are remnants of the explosives in the rubble, and the people searching for survivors at ground zero said they didnt find anything like that. So no.halfirishhomer

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[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]At controlled demolitions there are remnants of the explosives in the rubble, and the people searching for survivors at ground zero said they didnt find anything like that. So no.Big_player

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With all due respect, that explanation makes no sense. Do you think they didn't know what the explosives were so they just threw them out? And if it was a controlled demolition why didnt people report hearing explosions right before the collapse? And why didn't the survivors who were in the towers when they collapsed tell anyone about this controlled demolition?

[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"]Of course it was planned. Or else it wouldn't have been that many planes at the exact same time.kcpp2b

Sorry I should be more specific maybe. I mean beyond just the planes I mean the building itself and how it imploded basically. The plan was bigger then just the hijacking this involved the towers too

Buildings down fall like that after being hit by a plane. They imploded, and quickly. Just like how people do it when they take down old buildings. I don't see how that fall was naturual in terms of it happening because a plane hit it. Especially hearing people who built it talk about how it was designed with the idea of a plane impacting it.

[QUOTE="Big_player"][QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]At controlled demolitions there are remnants of the explosives in the rubble, and the people searching for survivors at ground zero said they didnt find anything like that. So no.halfirishhomer

response?

With all due respect, that explanation makes no sense. Do you think they didn't know what the explosives were so they just threw them out? And if it was a controlled demolition why didnt people report hearing explosions right before the collapse? And why didn't the survivors who were in the towers when they collapsed tell anyone about this controlled demolition?

After a explosion the actual explosives are destroyed, all that would be left is the wiring and maybe some small fuse boxes which is extremely easy to overlook when going through thousands of tons of rubble. There actually were reports of explosions right before the implosion and people in the tower would not be able to distinguish between the noise of a 100 floor building collapsing and some explosions.

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"][QUOTE="Big_player"][QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]At controlled demolitions there are remnants of the explosives in the rubble, and the people searching for survivors at ground zero said they didnt find anything like that. So no.Big_player

response?

With all due respect, that explanation makes no sense. Do you think they didn't know what the explosives were so they just threw them out? And if it was a controlled demolition why didnt people report hearing explosions right before the collapse? And why didn't the survivors who were in the towers when they collapsed tell anyone about this controlled demolition?

After a explosion the actual explosives are destroyed, all that would be left is the wiring and maybe some small fuse boxes which is extremely easy to overlook when going through thousands of tons of rubble. There actually were reports of explosions right before the implosion and people in the tower would not be able to distinguish between the noise of a 100 floor building collapsing and some explosions.

Are you tellin me that the thousands of people searching through the rubble for survivors, found no evidence of a controlled demolition because they weren't looking hard enough. And if people did report explosions don't you think there would be an investigation?

Well you gotta think this way

A plane crahsed into a skyscraper, and it exploded, with a lot of jet fuel, what did you think was going to happen.

As for the building imploding so magnificently, perhaps the shock was too much for the buildings supports but they didnt immediately break.

Im pretty sure our government didnt do itd be alittle wierd if it went like this.....hmmmm say, lets get a really big building in NY and blow it up! And then we can kill a whole heckanbunch of our own citizens! Yeah, Wouldnt that be genius!!! And theres a point to this somewhere! I just have to find it, Yeah!!!111

Im pretty sure our government didnt do itd be alittle wierd if it went like this.....hmmmm say, lets get a really big building in NY and blow it up! And then we can kill a whole heckanbunch of our own citizens! Yeah, Wouldnt that be genius!!! And theres a point to this somewhere! I just have to find it, Yeah!!!111Raok

Now, isn't this an interesting statement. Makes me think.

[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"]Of course it was planned. Or else it wouldn't have been that many planes at the exact same time.kcpp2b

Sorry I should be more specific maybe. I mean beyond just the planes I mean the building itself and how it imploded basically. The plan was bigger then just the hijacking this involved the towers too

Buildings down fall like that after being hit by a plane. They imploded, and quickly. Just like how people do it when they take down old buildings. I don't see how that fall was naturual in terms of it happening because a plane hit it. Especially hearing people who built it talk about how it was designed with the idea of a plane impacting it.

true, from what i heard from structural engineers the towers didn't collapse directly because of the impact but due to the superheating of some of the girders making them extra weak which then made the top crush down on the lower levels making them all crush

I think the U.S. had ample warning of the attack but didn't take it seriously.UssjTrunks

atleast one pearson knew of it a day before, i think he was arested a while ago

I don't know the layout of NY. Could planes actually fly that close to the buildings so quickly without anyone noticing?

I find it a bit odd. The Government can send mimiltary personell to places in the blink of an eye, but here you have two passenger jets flying low heading for a cluster of buildings and no-one takes a look?

That kinda puts the blame on the Government, but I am just wondering in general.

DigitalExile

they couldn't shoot a plane down in the middle of the city and before it was too late it would have just looked like any other flight coming in to the eastern seaboard