so this is very interesting,i think this explains a lot of whats happening in those regions,so clearly the Taliban and insurgents there are fighting because they don't know why the hell they have been invaded in the first place,i am sure some of the Taliban know,but i think its a key detail they leave out when recruiting young men. what are your thoughts on this? http://www.democracynow.org/2010/11/22/headlines/poll_92_of_young_afghan_men_dont_know_about_9_11_attacks
so this is very interesting,i think this explains a lot of whats happening in those regions,so clearly the Taliban and insurgents there are fighting because they don't know why the hell they have been invaded in the first place,i am sure some of the Taliban know,but i think its a key detail they leave out when recruiting young men. what are your thoughts on this? http://www.democracynow.org/2010/11/22/headlines/poll_92_of_young_afghan_men_dont_know_about_9_11_attackslocke33
My thoughts are that %92 percent of those people don't have a television or radio. Really, we are so used to being able to retrieve any information we want, but in some of these nations, there is no way to get the info other than word of mouth. When the people who surround you have an agenda, it can really skew the populations beliefs.
[QUOTE="Harisemo"]taliban dont recruit young men, they join themselves to defend their country-Sun_Tzu-
No, they usually join just to put food on the table. The Taliban is very, very, very unpopular in Afghanistan. This. Many join because it's the only way they can get money and food.
[QUOTE="Harisemo"]taliban dont recruit young men, they join themselves to defend their country-Sun_Tzu-
No, they usually join just to put food on the table. The Taliban is very, very, very unpopular in Afghanistan. Exactly. Some are also forced to partake in anti-Coaltion activities like IED planting. If they do not agree, their families are in danger.
Considering the fact most of them don't even know how to use a toothbrush it's not big news. They'd be lucky if they even managed to afford a radio or television. But then, it's one of the most impoverished regions in the world.
[QUOTE="Harisemo"]taliban dont recruit young men, they join themselves to defend their country-Sun_Tzu-
No, they usually join just to put food on the table. The Taliban is very, very, very unpopular in Afghanistan. lolwtfbbq no they dont. actually its the people joining afghan forces who are doing it for money not the Taliban and majority of afghans support Taliban which is why taliban is still goin strong after all these years and the west is still trying to win the hearts and minds of afghanis 9 years after the war..
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]taliban dont recruit young men, they join themselves to defend their countryHarisemo
No, they usually join just to put food on the table. The Taliban is very, very, very unpopular in Afghanistan. lolwtfbbq no they dont. actually its the people joining afghan forces who are doing it for money not the Taliban and majority of afghans support Taliban which is why taliban is still goin strong after all these years and the west is still trying to win the hearts and minds of afghanis 9 years after the war.. No, that's not true at all. The Afghan people have already lived through Taliban rule, and they didn't really appreciate the battery acid that was thrown in the face of young girls trying to go get an education or the requirement for all women to wear burqas, or the general technological backwardness that they promote. The Taliban is not a populist movement that represents the will of the Afghan, it is a brutal, despotic political organization that has continually terrorized the Afghan people.
And what are there... a few thousand televisions in Afghanistan, all in the major cities? Its not surprising they haven't heard of them, given they don't have access to world media, and aren't much for caring about anyone outside their tight-knit community (rural Pashtuns don't go out of their way to learn about people outside their communities at all).
No, that's not true at all. The Afghan people have already lived through Taliban rule, and they didn't really appreciate the battery acid that was thrown in the face of young girls trying to go get an education or the requirement for all women to wear burqas, or the general technological backwardness that they promote. The Taliban is not a populist movement that represents the will of the Afghan, it is a brutal, despotic political organization that has continually terrorized the Afghan people.-Sun_Tzu-
This backwardness and opression of women in afghanistan is a CULTURAL problem. Taliban represent MAJORITY of afghanis and those majority were ABSOLUTELY FINE with what Taliban were doing.
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] No, that's not true at all. The Afghan people have already lived through Taliban rule, and they didn't really appreciate the battery acid that was thrown in the face of young girls trying to go get an education or the requirement for all women to wear burqas, or the general technological backwardness that they promote. The Taliban is not a populist movement that represents the will of the Afghan, it is a brutal, despotic political organization that has continually terrorized the Afghan people.Harisemo
This backwardness and opression of women in afghanistan is a CULTURAL PROBLEM. Taliban represent MAJORITY of afghanis and those majority wereABSOLUTELY FINE with whatTaliban were doing.
No they don't and they certainly weren't fine with what the Taliban was doing. Most U.S. commanders estimate that about 70% of the Taliban joined because of financial reasons or coercion, and polls show that the Taliban is very unpopular with the Afghan people.
No they don't and they certainly weren't fine with what the Taliban was doing. Most U.S. commanders estimate that about 70% of the Taliban joined because of financial reasons or coercion, and polls show that the Taliban is very unpopular with the Afghan people. -Sun_Tzu-
:lol: ok i dont think ill carry on arguing. you win
[QUOTE="Harisemo"] No like I said you win, truth from the mouth of Gen. McChrystal and others cant be argued with :lol:I noticed a pattern with you; you use a ":lol:" smiley every time you can't elaborate on your statements. I find it difficult to comprehend that thousands of 'soliders' would risk his life for nothing. Like I said, lets hear your evidence. http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmoral/20070916.aspx
[QUOTE="Harisemo"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] No, they usually join just to put food on the table. The Taliban is very, very, very unpopular in Afghanistan. -Sun_Tzu-
lolwtfbbq no they dont. actually its the people joining afghan forces who are doing it for money not the Taliban and majority of afghans support Taliban which is why taliban is still goin strong after all these years and the west is still trying to win the hearts and minds of afghanis 9 years after the war.. No, that's not true at all. The Afghan people have already lived through Taliban rule, and they didn't really appreciate the battery acid that was thrown in the face of young girls trying to go get an education or the requirement for all women to wear burqas, or the general technological backwardness that they promote. The Taliban is not a populist movement that represents the will of the Afghan, it is a brutal, despotic political organization that has continually terrorized the Afghan people.
This exactly, they're just a bunch of radicals that took over after the failed soviet invasion that destabilized the country even more than it previously was.
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]No, that's not true at all. The Afghan people have already lived through Taliban rule, and they didn't really appreciate the battery acid that was thrown in the face of young girls trying to go get an education or the requirement for all women to wear burqas, or the general technological backwardness that they promote. The Taliban is not a populist movement that represents the will of the Afghan, it is a brutal, despotic political organization that has continually terrorized the Afghan people.Harisemo
This backwardness and opression of women in afghanistan is a CULTURAL problem. Taliban represent MAJORITY of afghanis and those majority were ABSOLUTELY FINE with what Taliban were doing.
That's not true at all and you haven't presented anything to support your claims. Look up Afgan history before the soviet invasion and the invasion and its aftermath. The taliban doesn't represent the majority.
No like I said you win, truth from the mouth of Gen. McChrystal and others cant be argued with :lol: You didn't provide any evidence to suggest otherwise, so why we should believe your viewpoint?
I'm sure it is common for many of these people in rural Afghanistan to not know of the attacks. With all the problems in their own village I doubt they have time to keep up with the conflicts of the world.
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