9mm vs. .40 caliber

Well it seems what i've read on other forums is that a good shot is the most important. It doesn't matter how big a hole it leaves, if it isn't in a spot that can incapacitate someone then there isn't much point in a bigger round.

P.S. I'm not thinking of carrying it around with me, I'm thinking of keeping it in my home. I just would like to have one in case i ever need it. Id rather have it when I need it than vice versa.

Well it seems what i've read on other forums is that a good shot is the most important. It doesn't matter how big a hole it leaves, if it isn't in a spot that can incapacitate someone then there isn't much point in a bigger round.

P.S. I'm not thinking of carrying it around with me, I'm thinking of keeping it in my home. I just would like to have one in case i ever need it. Id rather have it when I need it than vice versa.

Morphic

If it's really a big concern and for "defense" then I would go for a higher caliber. More stopping power, and range shouldn't be as important.

The .40 is more than just a little more powerful. One shot in the chest and that person is gone for good, but the same can't be said about 9mm its not as powerfull. Ive seen many people get shot with a 9mm and walk just fine.mastershake575

The .40 is more than just a little more powerful. One shot in the chest and that person is gone for good, but the same can't be said about 9mm its not as powerfull. Ive seen many people get shot with a 9mm and walk just fine.mastershake575

What the heck do u do that you've seen "many people" get shot with a 9mm??

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]The .40 is more than just a little more powerful. One shot in the chest and that person is gone for good, but the same can't be said about 9mm its not as powerfull. Ive seen many people get shot with a 9mm and walk just fine.grimm579

What the heck do u do that you've seen "many people" get shot with a 9mm??

[QUOTE="grimm579"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]The .40 is more than just a little more powerful. One shot in the chest and that person is gone for good, but the same can't be said about 9mm its not as powerfull. Ive seen many people get shot with a 9mm and walk just fine.mastershake575

What the heck do u do that you've seen "many people" get shot with a 9mm??

edit: also for the TC, my local SWAT team uses the 40. H&K I mentioned. So, maybe that would weigh in :P

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="grimm579"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]The .40 is more than just a little more powerful. One shot in the chest and that person is gone for good, but the same can't be said about 9mm its not as powerfull. Ive seen many people get shot with a 9mm and walk just fine.DivergeUnify

What the heck do u do that you've seen "many people" get shot with a 9mm??

edit: also for the TC, my local SWAT team uses the 40. H&K I mentioned. So, maybe that would weigh in :P

M79Hoyt34

Not like an M79 can be concealed like a pistol. "Hey what's that on your back?"

"oh dont' worry, it's a grenade launcher. I keep it for defense in case I ever get jumped"

Not all the times and with a .40 it wouldn't matter, they'd be dead easily after a few shots mastershake575

You really cant go wrong with a .40 cal. It has the power to do what you need done and it isnt hard to handle at all.

[QUOTE="mastershake575"] Not all the times and with a .40 it wouldn't matter, they'd be dead easily after a few shots DivergeUnify

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]The .40 is more than just a little more powerful. One shot in the chest and that person is gone for good, but the same can't be said about 9mm its not as powerfull. Ive seen many people get shot with a 9mm and walk just fine.grimm579

What the heck do u do that you've seen "many people" get shot with a 9mm??

He probably fought in Nam, or Iraq. Or WWll. I really hope so. Or maybe he's a cop in a very violent city.

Try find a 9mm Browning pistol, super reliable, only 4(?) parts to the whole pistol when you strip and assemble, theoretivally accurate up to 50m (Which is a lot in handgun terms).

For all the people going on about how people take loads of 9mm and keep walking around - please... If you had seen someone hit, you'd know how much agony someone is in after just one hit. A .40 cal is way too much weapon for protective purposes.

A .40 cal is way too much weapon for protective purposes.

D3nnyCrane

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

A .40 cal is way too much weapon for protective purposes.

mastershake575

You point a gun at me, I'm gonna pee my pants and do whatever you tell me to do. So the size thing really is quite irrelevant - I don't live in the States, is .40cal readily available?

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

A .40 cal is way too much weapon for protective purposes.

D3nnyCrane

You point a gun at me, I'm gonna pee my pants and do whatever you tell me to do. So the size thing really is quite irrelevant - I don't live in the States, is .40cal readily available?

And I thought such a place only existed in my dreams...

Seriously here in NZ it's hard enough to get your A-cat license for hunting rifles and stuff! Mind you if I took an assault rifle deer-hunting it'd sorta defeat the purpose...

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

A .40 cal is way too much weapon for protective purposes.

D3nnyCrane

You point a gun at me, I'm gonna pee my pants and do whatever you tell me to do. So the size thing really is quite irrelevant - I don't live in the States, is .40cal readily available?

[QUOTE="jus2nyce"]50 Cent got shot 9 times with the 9mm unfortunately he still survived.cryptosopoidium

If only it was a .40 Caliber...

Took the words outta my mouth lmao. i wanted to say that.

And I thought such a place only existed in my dreams...

Seriously here in NZ it's hard enough to get your A-cat license for hunting rifles and stuff! Mind you if I took an assault rifle deer-hunting it'd sorta defeat the purpose...

D3nnyCrane

Despite being able to have all those weapons, specific rules for hutning still apply. Such as only 3 rounds in a magazine.

I don't think you need a .40 caliber, at the same time if you're in a situation where you NEED all the extra rounds a 9mm can get you're probably more a danger to everyone else and yourself than anyone attacking you.

I know they're not as cool but I think simple revolvers are the ideal solution for most people. Easy to use, easy to maintain.

go for 9mm. Its cheaper, and to be honest if some burgler sees a gun he isnt going to be like "is that a 9mm or .40? Cuz if its a 9mm I think I will take my chances and rush you"

I don't think you need a .40 caliber, at the same time if you're in a situation where you NEED all the extra rounds a 9mm can get you're probably more a danger to everyone else and yourself than anyone attacking you.

I know they're not as cool but I think simple revolvers are the ideal solution for most people. Easy to use, easy to maintain.

duxup

If, and this is a big "if", I were to have a gun for home defense I think it would be a big ass revolver (dirty harry gun!) or a shotgun. That way I wouldnt really have to shoot anyone I could just show them the gun and theyd run. My dad worked as an inspector for the government and the cops were saying they love shotguns and recommend them for home defense.

[QUOTE="duxup"]

I don't think you need a .40 caliber, at the same time if you're in a situation where you NEED all the extra rounds a 9mm can get you're probably more a danger to everyone else and yourself than anyone attacking you.

I know they're not as cool but I think simple revolvers are the ideal solution for most people. Easy to use, easy to maintain.

mrbojangles25

If, and this is a big "if", I were to have a gun for home defense I think it would be a big ass revolver (dirty harry gun!) or a shotgun. That way I wouldnt really have to shoot anyone I could just show them the gun and theyd run. My dad worked as an inspector for the government and the cops were saying they love shotguns and recommend them for home defense.

Or you could club them with it. Those things are huge.

.40 H&k pistols can hold 13-17 rounds, depending on the model. Unless you pissed off a gang, I don't think you'll need anymore than that...DivergeUnify

yeah go for the 40

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"][QUOTE="duxup"]

I don't think you need a .40 caliber, at the same time if you're in a situation where you NEED all the extra rounds a 9mm can get you're probably more a danger to everyone else and yourself than anyone attacking you.

I know they're not as cool but I think simple revolvers are the ideal solution for most people. Easy to use, easy to maintain.

duxup

If, and this is a big "if", I were to have a gun for home defense I think it would be a big ass revolver (dirty harry gun!) or a shotgun. That way I wouldnt really have to shoot anyone I could just show them the gun and theyd run. My dad worked as an inspector for the government and the cops were saying they love shotguns and recommend them for home defense.

Or you could club them with it. Those things are huge.

ya I problably wouldnt even keep it loaded lol. i would just club people with it and throw those heavy-ass bullets at them.

"Get out of my house!" *throws bullet*
"Ow, shouldnt you be shooting me?"
"No, that'd be too quick, I want you to suffer!!!" *clubs burglar with gun*
"ow, ok ok I am sorry...please, shoot me! SHOOOOOT ME!"
"no!"

The 9mm can hold like 12 bullets and 1 in the chamber. So its pretty good overall. I have one and yes i live in Canada(Toronto).

if you can get a .45 acp ammo. It travels slower but its bigger and does more damage to a person's body if its them.(or at least thats what i heard when watching the military channel)south411