A documentary everybody should watch.

Enough said. Watch.

Zeigeist

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It will take you to a UFO doco (stupid google video) but click the "Zeigiest" movie on the left.

I'm unsure of what to belive about paranormal sightings. There have been thousands upon thousands of repoted sightings of aliens, nessie and bigfoot. Undoubtebly some are frauds but there are just so many that it makes u wonder. Currently though, i am an unbeliever

There are no aliens and there never will be. We are alone, sorry.limpbizkit818

Enough said. Watch.

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lucas_kelly

You should read Chariots of the Gods. You'd enjoy it.

[QUOTE="lucas_kelly"]Enough said. Watch.

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xmitchconnorx

You should read Chariots of the Gods. You'd enjoy it.

you've read it?

one of the best books i've ever read.

i'll watch it. i think u should watch loose change its on youtube and google video. its about a conspiracy on 9/11 even if u don't beleave it i still think u should watch it.

today, around 12 at night i was something like a UFO or a shooting star!! i saw something that went by realy fast by in the air. then i noticed that there were like 2 planes flying by where i saw it.

There are no aliens and there never will be. We are alone, sorry.limpbizkit818

Because your word is fact. :)

But seriously, no.

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There are no aliens and there never will be. We are alone, sorry.blackngold29

Proof it? Do you believe in magic too? And while we are using the "proof it" argument, could you please "proof" religion? Or "proof" any random conspiracy theory. Or "proof" some of the science theories. While you're at it, could you also please "proof" the meaning of life.

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There are no aliens and there never will be. We are alone, sorry.BlackAlpha666

Proof it? Do you believe in magic too? And while we are using the "proof it" argument, could you please "proof" religion? Or "proof" any random conspiracy theory. Or "proof" some of the science theories. While you're at it, could you also please "proof" the meaning of life.

The overwhelming evidence that supports the existence of alien life-forms makes your post obsolete.

I've watched the first half of that video but it's full of misinformation, so I stopped watching it. They are using the same audio fragments in multiple completely different scenes and often they use them very badly out of context. It's impossible to figure out what's the truth and what is not in that video.

I stopped caring about UFO documentries for exactly that reason. Most of them are fiction. I might aswell be listening to a little kid telling me what he thinks about the subject.

The overwhelming evidence that supports the existence of alien life-forms makes your post obsolete.

super_mario_128

But there is no evidence. You are just pulling that argument out of your arse. There are only stories. Stories that aren't backed up by facts, cannot be trusted.

I've watched the first half of that video but it's full of misinformation, so I stopped watching it. They are using the same audio fragments in multiple completely different scenes and often they use them very badly out of context. It's impossible to figure out what's the truth and what is not in that video.

I stopped caring about UFO documentries for exactly that reason. Most of them are fiction. I might aswell be listening to a little kid telling me what he thinks about the subject.

BlackAlpha666

I dont want you to watch that one. Watch "Zeitgeist".

There are no aliens and there never will be. We are alone, sorry.limpbizkit818

Well you keep telling yourself that.

Do you also believe that Elvis is still alive? And that the government is spiking our water to brainwash us? And so on...

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The overwhelming evidence that supports the existence of alien life-forms makes your post obsolete.

BlackAlpha666

But there is no evidence. You are just pulling that argument out of your arse. There are only stories. Stories that aren't backed up by facts, cannot be trusted.

Who said I'm talking about UFO stories? :roll: Try watching a documentary about planets and aliens and tell me that it is unlikely that aliens exist, honestly. You obviously don't know your facts if you claim that there is no evidence, my friend.

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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

The overwhelming evidence that supports the existence of alien life-forms makes your post obsolete.

super_mario_128

But there is no evidence. You are just pulling that argument out of your arse. There are only stories. Stories that aren't backed up by facts, cannot be trusted.

Who said I'm talking about UFO stories? :roll: Try watching a documentary about planets and aliens and tell me that it is unlikely that aliens exist, honestly. You obviously don't know your facts if you claim that there is no evidence, my friend.

I thought we were talking about UFOs, not alien life on alien planets.

About alien life in general. There is no proof that alien life exists. There are theories and there's a high probability that there is alien life somewhere out there, most likely in the form of micro organism, but there's no proof. Get the facts straight.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

The overwhelming evidence that supports the existence of alien life-forms makes your post obsolete.

BlackAlpha666

But there is no evidence. You are just pulling that argument out of your arse. There are only stories. Stories that aren't backed up by facts, cannot be trusted.

Who said I'm talking about UFO stories? :roll: Try watching a documentary about planets and aliens and tell me that it is unlikely that aliens exist, honestly. You obviously don't know your facts if you claim that there is no evidence, my friend.

I thought we were talking about UFOs, not alien life on alien planets.

About alien life in general. There is no proof that alien life exists. There are theories and there's a high probability that there is alien life somewhere out there, most likely in the form of micro organism, but there's no proof. Get the facts straight.

I didn't say there was proof. I said that there is overwhelming evidence, which there is. If anyone considers UFO tales to be proof then they need to get their brain checked immediately.

I thought we were talking about UFOs, not alien life on alien planets.

About alien life in general. There is no proof that alien life exists. There are theories and there's a high probability that there is alien life somewhere out there, most likely in the form of micro organism, but there's no proof. Get the facts straight.

BlackAlpha666

There may be no proof of alien life but there also isn't proof of no alien life. Considering how big the universe is, then it's highly likely that there is other life out there.

[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

The overwhelming evidence that supports the existence of alien life-forms makes your post obsolete.

super_mario_128

But there is no evidence. You are just pulling that argument out of your arse. There are only stories. Stories that aren't backed up by facts, cannot be trusted.

Who said I'm talking about UFO stories? :roll: Try watching a documentary about planets and aliens and tell me that it is unlikely that aliens exist, honestly. You obviously don't know your facts if you claim that there is no evidence, my friend.

I thought we were talking about UFOs, not alien life on alien planets.

About alien life in general. There is no proof that alien life exists. There are theories and there's a high probability that there is alien life somewhere out there, most likely in the form of micro organism, but there's no proof. Get the facts straight.

I didn't say there was proof. I said that there is overwhelming evidence, which there is. If anyone considers UFO tales to be proof then they need to get their brain checked immediately.

Fair enough. But the first meaning of the word "evidence" is proof or something that proves. Don't speak in riddles, be more precise in what you are trying to say the next time.

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[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There are no aliens and there never will be. We are alone, sorry.super_mario_128

Proof it? Do you believe in magic too? And while we are using the "proof it" argument, could you please "proof" religion? Or "proof" any random conspiracy theory. Or "proof" some of the science theories. While you're at it, could you also please "proof" the meaning of life.

The overwhelming evidence that supports the existence of alien life-forms makes your post obsolete.

Like the fact that we're light years away from any stars, hundreds of light years away from any stars with planets, and millions of light years from stars with similar solar systems with us? Even then, when the chance of having an Earth-like planet is a million-to-one, it may still be in its primitive state, and the only life living on it would be bacteria.

The only chance we'll encounter life outside of our solar system is if we find a ship that can go the speed of light for a million years, while still supporting people living on the ship who haven't forgot the objective of the mission, and go to a planet with bacteria on it.

Sorry, but it's not gonna happen.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There are no aliens and there never will be. We are alone, sorry.Xx_CYC756_xX

Proof it? Do you believe in magic too? And while we are using the "proof it" argument, could you please "proof" religion? Or "proof" any random conspiracy theory. Or "proof" some of the science theories. While you're at it, could you also please "proof" the meaning of life.

The overwhelming evidence that supports the existence of alien life-forms makes your post obsolete.

Like the fact that we're light years away from any stars, hundreds of light years away from any stars with planets, and millions of light years from stars with similar solar systems with us? Even then, when the chance of having an Earth-like planet is a million-to-one, it may still be in its primitive state, and the only life living on it would be bacteria.

The only chance we'll encounter life outside of our solar system is if we find a ship that can go the speed of light for a million years, while still supporting people living on the ship who haven't forgot the objective of the mission, and go to a planet with bacteria on it.

Sorry, but it's not gonna happen.

Actually they have found earth like planets. You should visit dailygalaxy.com.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There are no aliens and there never will be. We are alone, sorry.Xx_CYC756_xX

Proof it? Do you believe in magic too? And while we are using the "proof it" argument, could you please "proof" religion? Or "proof" any random conspiracy theory. Or "proof" some of the science theories. While you're at it, could you also please "proof" the meaning of life.

The overwhelming evidence that supports the existence of alien life-forms makes your post obsolete.

Like the fact that we're light years away from any stars, hundreds of light years away from any stars with planets, and millions of light years from stars with similar solar systems with us? Even then, when the chance of having an Earth-like planet is a million-to-one, it may still be in its primitive state, and the only life living on it would be bacteria.

The only chance we'll encounter life outside of our solar system is if we find a ship that can go the speed of light for a million years, while still supporting people living on the ship who haven't forgot the objective of the mission, and go to a planet with bacteria on it.

Sorry, but it's not gonna happen.

Right, like the fact you pulled most of those facts out of your arse. Indeed it would nearly impossible to travel to alien worlds with our current technology, but I don't see any proof that we won't be able to develop methods of transport in the future that will allow space travel between two points to occur instantly. Sure, where's the proof? Point is, I'm an optimist and I'd love to see this happen. Basically, saying it will not happen is ignorant and pessimistic.

What I find ironic is those that won't believe in a god because of a lack of scientific evidence will believe in other life in the universe without any scientific evidence. :lol:LJS9502_basic

What I find ironic is those that won't believe in a god because of a lack of scientific evidence will believe in other life in the universe without any scientific evidence. :lol:LJS9502_basic

I'll quote my last post: we may not be able to prove there is other life out there but we also cannot prove that there isn't other life. Your just ignorant if you think we're the only planet in the universe with life on.

[QUOTE="Xx_CYC756_xX"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There are no aliens and there never will be. We are alone, sorry.super_mario_128

Proof it? Do you believe in magic too? And while we are using the "proof it" argument, could you please "proof" religion? Or "proof" any random conspiracy theory. Or "proof" some of the science theories. While you're at it, could you also please "proof" the meaning of life.

The overwhelming evidence that supports the existence of alien life-forms makes your post obsolete.

Like the fact that we're light years away from any stars, hundreds of light years away from any stars with planets, and millions of light years from stars with similar solar systems with us? Even then, when the chance of having an Earth-like planet is a million-to-one, it may still be in its primitive state, and the only life living on it would be bacteria.

The only chance we'll encounter life outside of our solar system is if we find a ship that can go the speed of light for a million years, while still supporting people living on the ship who haven't forgot the objective of the mission, and go to a planet with bacteria on it.

Sorry, but it's not gonna happen.

Right, like the fact you pulled most of those facts out of your arse. Indeed it would nearly impossible to travel to alien worlds with our current technology, but I don't see any proof that we won't be able to develop methods of transport in the future that will allow space travel between two points to occur instantly. Sure, where's the proof? Point is, I'm an optimist and I'd love to see this happen. Basically, saying it will not happen is ignorant and pessimistic.

Yes but what you are saying is not the truth. There's nothing wrong with being optimistic but you are twisting the facts and the truth to make them bigger then they really are. That is not being optimistic, that is simply fooling yourself and spreading misinformation.

Your arguments make no sense, really. First you say "Right, like the facts you pulled most of those facts our of your arse". Immediately after that you say "Indeed it would nearly impossible to travel to alien worlds with our current technology". You are contradicting yourself. And don't call people ignorant just because they don't agree with you. I don't think god himself will come to me tomorow to give me 10 million dollars. Does that make me ignorant because I think it won't happen?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]What I find ironic is those that won't believe in a god because of a lack of scientific evidence will believe in other life in the universe without any scientific evidence. :lol:super_mario_128

So there is evidence that there is other planets.....that, however, is NOT evidence that life exists on those planets. Sorry. Therefore, it doesn't matter that YOUR OPINION is that life may exist.....scientific evidence for such life is non existent. Which is what I said.:)

What I find ironic is those that won't believe in a god because of a lack of scientific evidence will believe in other life in the universe without any scientific evidence. :lol:LJS9502_basic

With most people when they say they believe in life forms from other planets dont actually mean they belive they exist, but believe in the great possibility that there are other life forms in the universe.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]What I find ironic is those that won't believe in a god because of a lack of scientific evidence will believe in other life in the universe without any scientific evidence. :lol:ColdRush88

I'll quote my last post: we may not be able to prove there is other life out there but we also cannot prove that there isn't other life. Your just ignorant if you think we're the only planet in the universe with life on.

Ignorance is not reading a post correctly and responding entirely wrong.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]What I find ironic is those that won't believe in a god because of a lack of scientific evidence will believe in other life in the universe without any scientific evidence. :lol:lucas_kelly

With most people when they say they believe in life forms from other planets dont actually mean they belive they exist, but believe in the great possibility that there are other life forms in the universe.

And that's different how? They believe in a possibliity even though such evidence is missing. As I stated....IRONIC.;)

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Xx_CYC756_xX"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There are no aliens and there never will be. We are alone, sorry.BlackAlpha666

Proof it? Do you believe in magic too? And while we are using the "proof it" argument, could you please "proof" religion? Or "proof" any random conspiracy theory. Or "proof" some of the science theories. While you're at it, could you also please "proof" the meaning of life.

The overwhelming evidence that supports the existence of alien life-forms makes your post obsolete.

Like the fact that we're light years away from any stars, hundreds of light years away from any stars with planets, and millions of light years from stars with similar solar systems with us? Even then, when the chance of having an Earth-like planet is a million-to-one, it may still be in its primitive state, and the only life living on it would be bacteria.

The only chance we'll encounter life outside of our solar system is if we find a ship that can go the speed of light for a million years, while still supporting people living on the ship who haven't forgot the objective of the mission, and go to a planet with bacteria on it.

Sorry, but it's not gonna happen.

Right, like the fact you pulled most of those facts out of your arse. Indeed it would nearly impossible to travel to alien worlds with our current technology, but I don't see any proof that we won't be able to develop methods of transport in the future that will allow space travel between two points to occur instantly. Sure, where's the proof? Point is, I'm an optimist and I'd love to see this happen. Basically, saying it will not happen is ignorant and pessimistic.

Yes but what you are saying is not the truth. There's nothing wrong with being optimistic but you are twisting the facts and the truth to make them bigger then they really are. That is not being optimistic, that is simply fooling yourself and spreading misinformation.

Your arguments make no sense, really. First you say "Right, like the facts you pulled most of those facts our of your arse". Immediately after that you say "Indeed it would nearly impossible to travel to alien worlds with our current technology". You are contradicting yourself. And don't call people ignorant just because they don't agree with you. I don't think god himself will come to me tomorow to give me 10 million dollars. Does that make me ignorant because I think it won't happen?

I fail to see the contradiction in those quotes. I also fail to see where I've twisted the "facts and "truth"; I've just stated my opinion. Also, I think it was quite ignorant. Saying that "something will NOT happen" is much different to saying "I think something will NOT happen."

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]What I find ironic is those that won't believe in a god because of a lack of scientific evidence will believe in other life in the universe without any scientific evidence. :lol:LJS9502_basic

I'll quote my last post: we may not be able to prove there is other life out there but we also cannot prove that there isn't other life. Your just ignorant if you think we're the only planet in the universe with life on.

Ignorance is not reading a post correctly and responding entirely wrong.

Your in denial. it's ok. We understand.

I'm calling you ignorant because you refuse to believe there is other life on other planets in the universe. You do know how big the univers is and the fact hat there are millions and millions of planets. Saying there isn't life on them is pure ignorance.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]What I find ironic is those that won't believe in a god because of a lack of scientific evidence will believe in other life in the universe without any scientific evidence. :lol:LJS9502_basic

With most people when they say they believe in life forms from other planets dont actually mean they belive they exist, but believe in the great possibility that there are other life forms in the universe.

And that's different how? They believe in a possibliity even though such evidence is missing. As I stated....IRONIC.;)

Its different because if you believe in the possibility, you believe that there is a good chance, not that you believe that they actually do exist and there is proof of it. Anyway I didn't want it it to turn into a discussiona bout a topic that doesn't relate to the documentary. We should be talking about religion and 9/11 conspiracies.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ColdRush88"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]What I find ironic is those that won't believe in a god because of a lack of scientific evidence will believe in other life in the universe without any scientific evidence. :lol:ColdRush88

I'll quote my last post: we may not be able to prove there is other life out there but we also cannot prove that there isn't other life. Your just ignorant if you think we're the only planet in the universe with life on.

Ignorance is not reading a post correctly and responding entirely wrong.

Your in denial. it's ok. We understand.

I'm calling you ignorant because you refuse to believe there is other life on other planets in the universe. You do know how big the univers is and the fact hat there are millions and millions of planets. Saying there isn't life on them is pure ignorance.

Ironically, my post said nothing about what I believe. It was a comment on the hypocrisy of those who believe without evidence sometimes but use that same lack of evidence as proof in another subject to the opposite effect. Sadly, you didn't understand my post...have attached meaning where none was given and continue to show this error by arguing against WHAT I NEVER SAID. For your own sake...drop it. You're hurting yourself....

What I find ironic is those that won't believe in a god because of a lack of scientific evidence will believe in other life in the universe without any scientific evidence. :lol:LJS9502_basic

There is a lot of indirect evidence. You know where that evidence comes from? Earth. We got all kinds of different lifeforms in the most hostile environments. I guess that you are most likely thinking about intelligent and complex lifeforms but most people are just talking about any kind of lifeforms, like micro organism. If you think about micro organism then it becomes a whole lot more realistic to have alien life on distant planets.

Heh, I admire your patience LJS. I'd have exploded a long time ago :(...jointed

I have to step out for about an hour so they shall have to argue amongst themselves. This is why debate threads have gone downhill in OT...nobody understands what they read.

With the size of the Universe in consideration it's almost impossible for there not to be aliens.

Civilizations millions of years ahead of us technology wise may know how to create wormholes and bend space time to travel to our planet... might sound dumb but look how far our technology has come in the past 100 years.

Its different because if you believe in the possibility, you believe that there is a good chance, not that you believe that they actually do exist and there is proof of it. Anyway I didn't want it it to turn into a discussiona bout a topic that doesn't relate to the documentary. We should be talking about religion and 9/11 conspiracies.

lucas_kelly

It's not different. You just want it to be different.;)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]What I find ironic is those that won't believe in a god because of a lack of scientific evidence will believe in other life in the universe without any scientific evidence. :lol:BlackAlpha666

There is a lot of indirect evidence. You know where that evidence comes from? Earth. We got all kinds of different lifeforms in the most hostile environments. I guess that you are most likely thinking about intelligent and complex lifeforms but most people are just talking about any kind of lifeforms, like micro organism. If you think about micro organism then it becomes a whole lot more realistic to have alien life on distant planets.

As I stated...there is no scientific evidence as of now.

[QUOTE="jointed"]Heh, I admire your patience LJS. I'd have exploded a long time ago :(...LJS9502_basic

I have to step out for about an hour so they shall have to argue amongst themselves. This is why debate threads have gone downhill in OT...nobody understands what they read.

They're going downhill? I agree.

But your here...so you must like them still.