A list of "terror plots" that were actually hatched by the FBI

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"] I refuse to believe a normal person can be "goaded" into doing something like this. If you fall into this OBVIOUSLY you were predisposed to commiting this crime. They would have totally done it given the resources and these operations prove this!

Yusuke420

So you're basically saying that a person who is predisposed to commit a crime may as well have already done it?  So what if they're not a "normal person?"  That's a crime now?

You do realize that many people reach a point in their lives where they are close to committing criminal acts, but never do, right?  I dare say most people.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] It's not impossible for them to say no.....-Sun_Tzu-

The law is supposed to respond to REAL threats to REAL victims, not push them into existence when they might never have come to fruition.  

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

The law is supposed to respond to REAL threats to REAL victims, not push them into existence when they might never have come to fruition.  

LJS9502_basic

Yes, lists of "risky" people.  That's worked out well.  :roll:

You think that "thinking" about stealing from a store or something is the same as active participating and trying to organize and execute a major act of mass destruction? 

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Even just from a purely practical stand point these programs don't make sense. If you think terrorism is a serious problem why would you want law enforcement wasting its time going after people who don't pose a tangible threat? How is this a good allocation of resources? hartsickdiscipl

Yes, lists of "risky" people.  That's worked out well.  :roll:

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Generally they have information that said individuals are a risk. They don't just pull names from a hat.....LJS9502_basic

Yes, lists of "risky" people.  That's worked out well.  :roll:

You're so full of sh!t.  Typical arrogant, delusional. dystopian prole.  

You think that "thinking" about stealing from a store or something is the same as active participating and trying to organize and execute a major act of mass destruction? 

Yusuke420

I think you're assuming way too much.  

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

You think that "thinking" about stealing from a store or something is the same as active participating and trying to organize and execute a major act of mass destruction? 

hartsickdiscipl

I think you're assuming way too much.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You understand so little.....LJS9502_basic

You're so full of sh!t.  Typical arrogant, delusional. dystopian prole.  

Yes, Fuhrer, put them on "the list."  They are a threat to our regime!

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

You think that "thinking" about stealing from a store or something is the same as active participating and trying to organize and execute a major act of mass destruction? 

LJS9502_basic

I think you're assuming way too much.  

I think it should be required reading.  

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

You're so full of sh!t.  Typical arrogant, delusional. dystopian prole.  

hartsickdiscipl

Yes, Fuhrer, put them on "the list."  They are a threat to our regime!

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

I think you're assuming way too much.  

hartsickdiscipl

I think it should be required reading.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Why because I don't buy into your vague conspiracy comments without factual evidence or your rolling eyes to hide said fact?

LJS9502_basic

Yes, Fuhrer, put them on "the list."  They are a threat to our regime!

You're a twisted authoritarian.  

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

Yes, Fuhrer, put them on "the list."  They are a threat to our regime!

hartsickdiscipl

You're a twisted authoritarian.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Like I said....clueless. They are targets because of information regarding their plans. But that doesn't fit your delusional world so you ignore that.LJS9502_basic

You're a twisted authoritarian.  

Keep talking about that tinfoil hat.  Pretty soon you'll wish you had one of your own.  

Dropping in to say hi hart. We haven't talked in a while. Hope you are doing okdave123321

Hi Dave, doing great.  Thanks for dropping in.  How have you been?

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I'm glad I haven't hit the rock bottom of worldviews like TC has

hartsickdiscipl

The truth hurts.  

No, people who think like you do is sad to watch

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

You're a twisted authoritarian.  

hartsickdiscipl

Keep talking about that tinfoil hat.  Pretty soon you'll wish you had one of your own.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No but I'm not wearing a tinfoil hat and thinking innocent people are targeted. Law enforcement tends to get info that the individuals are interested in x. But hey....wear that tin foil proudly.LJS9502_basic

Keep talking about that tinfoil hat.  Pretty soon you'll wish you had one of your own.  

Spoon-fed?  Hardly.  I came to the same conclusions that many others did, completely on my own.  I'm attracted to those people because we are of like mind.  It's because of that like-mindedness that we come to the same conclusions independently.  

You remind me of the kids in math class who used to get pissed off when I or someone else got the right answer first.  They sat there, pounding their pencils into their papers, trying to work the formula.  I took the information and found the solution a different, faster way.  When asked to show my work, I sometimes struggled.  Ultimately the answers were still right.  

If they're going out of their way to get in contact with these individuals then it's wrong. If the individuals are going out of their way to contact these traps then they were looking to commit anyway and should be charged appropriately. If he's already looking to become involved in a crime there would be no difference if he was in contact with the real deal. Same goes for Pedos. Ace6301

Nonsense.  Utter nonsense.  All of this "they would have done," and "they could have done," and "the might have done."  It's completely ridiculous.  

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

Keep talking about that tinfoil hat.  Pretty soon you'll wish you had one of your own.  

hartsickdiscipl

Spoon-fed?  Hardly.  I came to the same conclusions that many others did, completely on my own.  I'm attracted to those people because we are of like mind.  It's because of that like-mindedness that we come to the same conclusions independently.  

You remind me of the kids in math class who used to get pissed off when I or someone else got the right answer first.  They sat there, pounding their pencils into their papers, trying to work the formula.  I took the information and found the solution a different, faster way.  When asked to show my work, I sometimes struggled.  Ultimately the answers were still right.  

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Dropping in to say hi hart. We haven't talked in a while. Hope you are doing okhartsickdiscipl

Hi Dave, doing great.  Thanks for dropping in.  How have you been?

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No I'd rather make up my own mind than be spoon fed conspiracy theories like you are....LJS9502_basic

Spoon-fed?  Hardly.  I came to the same conclusions that many others did, completely on my own.  I'm attracted to those people because we are of like mind.  It's because of that like-mindedness that we come to the same conclusions independently.  

You remind me of the kids in math class who used to get pissed off when I or someone else got the right answer first.  They sat there, pounding their pencils into their papers, trying to work the formula.  I took the information and found the solution a different, faster way.  When asked to show my work, I sometimes struggled.  Ultimately the answers were still right.  

I seem to be coping with reality pretty well for such a wacko.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Dropping in to say hi hart. We haven't talked in a while. Hope you are doing okdave123321

Hi Dave, doing great.  Thanks for dropping in.  How have you been?

Yes, this place does wear on me too.  Airshocker is around.  I've seen him posting in a couple of threads tonight.  

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

Spoon-fed?  Hardly.  I came to the same conclusions that many others did, completely on my own.  I'm attracted to those people because we are of like mind.  It's because of that like-mindedness that we come to the same conclusions independently.  

You remind me of the kids in math class who used to get pissed off when I or someone else got the right answer first.  They sat there, pounding their pencils into their papers, trying to work the formula.  I took the information and found the solution a different, faster way.  When asked to show my work, I sometimes struggled.  Ultimately the answers were still right.  

hartsickdiscipl

I seem to be coping with reality pretty well for such a wacko.  

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]If they're going out of their way to get in contact with these individuals then it's wrong. If the individuals are going out of their way to contact these traps then they were looking to commit anyway and should be charged appropriately. If he's already looking to become involved in a crime there would be no difference if he was in contact with the real deal. Same goes for Pedos. hartsickdiscipl

Nonsense.  Utter nonsense.  All of this "they would have done," and "they could have done," and "the might have done."  It's completely ridiculous.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]From what I've read here....you seem to not grasp reality so no wonder you think everyone else is pounding their pencils....LJS9502_basic

I seem to be coping with reality pretty well for such a wacko.  

Why don't you regale me with a story about my failure of a life?  Oh that's right.. You know jack sh!t about my life.  

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]If they're going out of their way to get in contact with these individuals then it's wrong. If the individuals are going out of their way to contact these traps then they were looking to commit anyway and should be charged appropriately. If he's already looking to become involved in a crime there would be no difference if he was in contact with the real deal. Same goes for Pedos. hartsickdiscipl

Nonsense.  Utter nonsense.  All of this "they would have done," and "they could have done," and "the might have done."  It's completely ridiculous.  

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

 

I seem to be coping with reality pretty well for such a wacko.  

hartsickdiscipl

Why don't you regale me with a story about my failure of a life?  Oh that's right.. You know jack sh!t about my life.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]If they're going out of their way to get in contact with these individuals then it's wrong. If the individuals are going out of their way to contact these traps then they were looking to commit anyway and should be charged appropriately. If he's already looking to become involved in a crime there would be no difference if he was in contact with the real deal. Same goes for Pedos. Yusuke420

Nonsense.  Utter nonsense.  All of this "they would have done," and "they could have done," and "the might have done."  It's completely ridiculous.  

:lol:  LMFAO.. I think I saw that episode.  Such good TV.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]If they're going out of their way to get in contact with these individuals then it's wrong. If the individuals are going out of their way to contact these traps then they were looking to commit anyway and should be charged appropriately. If he's already looking to become involved in a crime there would be no difference if he was in contact with the real deal. Same goes for Pedos. Ace6301

Nonsense.  Utter nonsense.  All of this "they would have done," and "they could have done," and "the might have done."  It's completely ridiculous.  

You spelled it wrong.  It's "looking for shhhhhhheccccccccccckkkkkkkkksss with older man."  

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

Hi Dave, doing great.  Thanks for dropping in.  How have you been?

hartsickdiscipl

Yes, this place does wear on me too.  Airshocker is around.  I've seen him posting in a couple of threads tonight.  

Notice in the link you posted the part that said OPINION. Debunk, end of story. Bye.