A nude Mona Lisa-like painting was discovered..My childhood is ruined!

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#1 viewtiful26
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Okay, the last part was an exaggeration, but there's some debate whether the new painting is one of the lost Da Vinci paintings. You can search online for the painting...I'd post a link to the painting but I'm not sure whether that would be a violation of the ToS, even though it's a historical thing.

Here's an article on it from msnbc:


Nude, Mona Lisa-like painting surfaces
Documents suggest work at least based on similar work by da Vinci
By Rossella Lorenzi
Discovery Channel
updated 9:52 a.m. PT, Fri., June 12, 2009

Leonardo da Vinci, in a Renaissance version of Mad Magazine, may have painted his famous Mona Lisa in a number of ways, including nude. Now, a painting has surfaced that looks much like the original, sparking debate over just how far the master took his iconic painting.

The newly revealed painting, hidden for almost a century within the wood wall of a private library, shows a portrait of a half-naked woman with clear links to the famous (and clothed) Mona Lisa.

The work, which documents suggest was at least based on never-seen similar work by da Vinci, is now on exhibit at the Museo Ideale in the Tuscan town of Vinci, where da Vinci was born in 1452.

The lady in the portrait does not exactly resemble the original Mona Lisa, but there is little doubt it has parallels with the painting hanging at the Louvre museum in Paris.

"The frontal look, the position of the hands, the spatial conception of the landscape, with columns at the sides, show a clear link with the Mona Lisa's iconographic theme," Alessandro Vezzosi, director of the museum, told Discovery News.

The naked portrait once belonged to Napoleon's uncle, Cardinal Joseph Fesch (1763-1839) and was ensconced within the wood walls of Fesch's private library for nearly a century, before trading more hands within the Napoleon family.

An art lover, the Cardinal owned an impressive collection of artworks, including da Vinci's "St. Jerome" (now in the Vatican gallery), which he discovered in pieces in the Roman shops of a second-hand dealer.

A note dating to 1845 records that the Cardinal bought "the portrait of the Mona Lisa, mistress of Francis I, by Leonardo da Vinci," from the Rospigliosis, a rich aristocratic Roman family.

After changing hands at the death of the Cardinal, the portrait was possibly bought by Napoleon III, and finally landed in the private collection of Count Giuseppe Primoli, a descendant of Luciano Bonaparte, Napoleon's brother.

The documentation from the painting's original purchase is not enough to verify the work is by da Vinci, himself. The nude portrait will now undergo scientific and artistic investigations in an attempt to date the work and determine its author. Even if it is not by da Vinci (and it likely isn't, experts say), it may be based on a lost original by the artist himself.

"I think it is very likely that Leonardo da Vinci conceived a naked Mona Lisa," leading da Vinci scholar Carlo Pedretti, director of the Armand Hammer Center for Leonardo Studies at the University of California at Los Angeles, told Discovery News.

Indeed, several other claims of unclothed Mona Lisa's have been made over the years, pointing to the theory that da Vinci might have had fun with the famous image he had created around 1503-1506.

"There are at least six nude versions which are very close to da Vinci's hand. All are attributed to the da Vinci school. The most likely scenario is that his followers got inspired by a now-lost original," Vezzosi said.

According to Vezzosi, the original naked Mona might have been part of a series of erotic portraits by da Vinci and his pupils, which were never really shown because they were considered inappropriate.

Called "Monna Vanna," the topless versions of the Mona Lisa are indeed often considered the portraits of a court mistress or prostitute.

Nevertheless, these paintings inspired nudes by other artists, including Raphaello's 1518 portrait of his mistress, "The Baker Girl."

"Our quest for naked Mona Lisa's continues. We are now on the tracks of another interesting version in Las Vegas," Vezzosi said.
© 2009 Discovery Channel

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#2 BayAreaX
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pics?
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#3 ShadowTech_FTW
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pics?BayAreaX
..... that's the only reason i opened this thread -_-
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pics?BayAreaX

And FYI Gamespot mods: It would be Art, not Porn. >_>

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#6 BayAreaX
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[QUOTE="BayAreaX"]pics?ShadowTech_FTW
..... that's the only reason i opened this thread -_-

yeah i looked it up and ill i have to say is niice
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#7 observer77
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that's very interesting. come on people if you really read it there is a reason for no pics...( but yes I want them to) * runs to go find them*

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Won't someone think of the children D:

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#9 viewtiful26
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pics?BayAreaX
It's all over the net...I heard it on NPR, so I googled and found it pretty quickly. In all seriousness though, any of you guys thinks it's a legit Da Vinci painting? It looks pretty similar to the current Mona Lisa.
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#10 viewtiful26
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[QUOTE="BayAreaX"]pics?Nerd_Man

And FYI Gamespot mods: It would be Art, not Porn. >_>

Yeah, I don't want to risk being modded right now...
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#11 Phoenix534
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Won't someone think of the children D:

Funky_Llama

It's art. And it's not like children these days don't know about this stuff. If they can go to public schools then they can see a nude painting.

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#12 BayAreaX
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Won't someone think of the children D:

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Da Vinci was fascinated by the human body. HE was so fascinated that he had cadavers sent to his house all the time so he could cut them open and see what was going on in there.

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That is disgusting.
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#15 Phoenix534
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Da Vinci was fascinated by the human body. HE was so fascinated that he had cadavers sent to his house all the time so he could cut them open and see what was going on in there.

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Very...interesting fact.

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#16 linkin_guy109
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well the picture in question doesnt seem to have nipples so i dont know if that would be a violation but its iffy at best

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#17 Lord_Daemon
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Well I suppose it's the world's most famous painting so I can imagine why there's a lot of interest but consideirng how common nudes are in the world of art I'm not sure why it would shock or surprise anybody. Also-- my oh my but that hair looks ratty.

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#18 metroidfood
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It's either Da Vinci's naughty masterpiece or the world's first parody porn. :o

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#19 Nerd_Man
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It's either Da Vinci's naughty masterpiece or the world's first parody porn. :o

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Nude art is wildly misunderstood.

Nude art =/= porn

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#20 Big_Bad_Sad
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Is that how Da Vinci got his jollies?
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#21 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="BayAreaX"]pics?Nerd_Man

And FYI Gamespot mods: It would be Art, not Porn. >_>

I dont think they will care quite honestly
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I saw it, and to be honest, it spooked the **** out of me. :|

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#23 VaguelyTagged
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*searches it on google* lol,another proof that leonardo doesn't know **** about figurative art against michelangelo

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#24 xGamermanxx
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I came here to see something naked, im leaveing dissopointed.

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#25 JC346
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I googled it, and was disappointed.
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#26 XanderKage
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You mean like an actual authentical painting by DaVinci where Lisa's nude? Or someone just drew a nude Mona Lisa "parody"?

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#27 sarahxox
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I googled it. Something weird about it that I cant put my finger on...

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#28 MattUD1
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I googled it. Something weird about it that I cant put my finger on...

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Like Photoshop?
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#29 BumFluff122
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I just goggled it as well. Just so people know back in those days they didn't use female models as body models. They used men to represent the female form. Which is why the majority of nude female paintings in those days looked like naked men. (I took history of art :))

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#30 MattUD1
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I just goggled it as well. Just so people know back in those days they didn't use female models as body models. They used men to represent the female form. Which is why the majority of nude female paintings in those days looked like naked men. (I took history of art :))

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Well aren't you so smart, Mr. Smarty Pants :x
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#31 69ANT69
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That is actually really interesting, despite there being no pics :P, but I'm not really sad enough to drawl over a 500 year old painting :?
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#32 BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

I just goggled it as well. Just so people know back in those days they didn't use female models as body models. They used men to represent the female form. Which is why the majority of nude female paintings in those days looked like naked men. (I took history of art :))

MattUD1

Well aren't you so smart, Mr. Smarty Pants :x

I'm brilliant bordering on genius. I thought everyone in OT knew that.

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#33 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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Nudity isn't sexual. I don't feel the urge every time I step into the shower, and people can perform sexual acts with their clothes on. In relation to the topic, I wouldn't be surprised if it were a hoax.
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#34 viewtiful26
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[QUOTE="sarahxox"]

I googled it. Something weird about it that I cant put my finger on...

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Like Photoshop?

Eh...if it was photoshop msnbc, etc. wouldn't bother talking about it. I'm not sure about the details and the authenticity though.
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#35 fidosim
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There's a lot of nude paintings, especially from that time. Not a huge deal.
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#36 Oakfront
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Interesting, but old.

Still have yet to see the pics yet though.. :(

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#37 best-gam3r
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I'll bet you assasins creed 2 had something to do with this. I'll put money on it.