a question about english grammar

I'm surprised to see many native English speakers write "like I said" but my English teachers say that's incorrect, you have to write "As I said".

So both are now acceptable ?

Wasn't TTYL accepted in the dictionary?

Frequence of use and functionality in every day speech determines by large what is acceptable or not.

What people dont realise (sometimes even teachers) is that school doesnt teach you the "right" way to speak/write with absolute restrictions. Furthermore that "right" way isnt the only "right" way to speak/write. Its just one that caters to certain goals (for instance formality where that is needed).

Grammar rules change; even those that are officially taught in schools. Several changes have occured during my lifetime in my country's educational system. There are no unwritten laws in grammar.

'As I said' might sound more formal when written, read, or spoken, but 'like I said' is technically not grammatically incorrect. It does not change the meaning of the sentence; nor is there a rule or exception in the English language that denotes it as incorrect. If you're still in high school, I would ignore your teach when she make such grammatical generalizations.

I bet she also told you never to use passive voice.

'As I said' might sound more formal when written, read, or spoken, but 'like I said' is technically not grammatically incorrect. It does not change the meaning of the sentence; nor is there a rule or exception in the English language that denotes it as incorrect. If you're still in high school, I would ignore your teach when she make such grammatical eneralizations.

I bet she also told you never to use passive voice.

Communistik

Generally in language there are two parametres: acceptability and obedience or deviation from grammar.

All combinations exist: anti-grammatical but acceptable, grammatical and acceptable, grammatical but not acceptable, anti-grammatical and not acceptable (obviously).

For instance, the plural of politeness (which is more prominent in Greek or other languages) is anti-grammatical but it is acceptable pragmatically and used every day and is often advised by teachers depending on the communicational "context".

Frequence of use and functionality in every day speech determines by large what is acceptable or not.

What people dont realise (sometimes even teachers) is that school doesnt teach you the "right" way to speak/write with absolute restrictions. Furthermore that "right" way isnt the only "right" way to speak/write. Its just one that caters to certain goals (for instance formality where that is needed).

Grammar rules change; even those that are officially taught in schools. Several changes have occured during my lifetime in my country's educational system. There are no unwritten laws in grammar.

Teenaged

There are countless laws when it comes to writing; you just don't learn them in high school or college, and not even in many graduate programs.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Frequence of use and functionality in every day speech determines by large what is acceptable or not.

What people dont realise (sometimes even teachers) is that school doesnt teach you the "right" way to speak/write with absolute restrictions. Furthermore that "right" way isnt the only "right" way to speak/write. Its just one that caters to certain goals (for instance formality where that is needed).

Grammar rules change; even those that are officially taught in schools. Several changes have occured during my lifetime in my country's educational system. There are no unwritten laws in grammar.

Communistik

There are countless laws when it comes to writing; you just don't learn them in high school or college, and not even in many graduate programs.

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

'As I said' might sound more formal when written, read, or spoken, but 'like I said' is technically not grammatically incorrect. It does not change the meaning of the sentence; nor is there a rule or exception in the English language that denotes it as incorrect. If you're still in high school, I would ignore your teach when she make such grammatical eneralizations.

I bet she also told you never to use passive voice.

Teenaged

Generally in language there are two parametres: acceptability and obedience or deviation from grammar.

All combinations exist: anti-grammatical but acceptable, grammatical and acceptable, grammatical but not acceptable, anti-grammatical and not acceptable (obviously).

For instance, the plural of politeness (which is more prominent in Greek or other languages) is anti-grammatical but it is acceptable pragmatically and used every day and is often advised by teachers depending on the communicational "context".

What is the plural of "politeness"? :|

Politenesses?

I suppose "as I said" is technically correct, but it sounds very formal and proper.

"Like I said" is still perfectly acceptable in everyday English. Only a pedantic little **** would criticise you for using it.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

'As I said' might sound more formal when written, read, or spoken, but 'like I said' is technically not grammatically incorrect. It does not change the meaning of the sentence; nor is there a rule or exception in the English language that denotes it as incorrect. If you're still in high school, I would ignore your teach when she make such grammatical eneralizations.

I bet she also told you never to use passive voice.

Communistik

Generally in language there are two parametres: acceptability and obedience or deviation from grammar.

All combinations exist: anti-grammatical but acceptable, grammatical and acceptable, grammatical but not acceptable, anti-grammatical and not acceptable (obviously).

For instance, the plural of politeness (which is more prominent in Greek or other languages) is anti-grammatical but it is acceptable pragmatically and used every day and is often advised by teachers depending on the communicational "context".

What is the plural of "politeness"? :|

Politenesses?

Its the plural used when addressing one person, out of politeness. For instance when the person you are talking to is much older or he/she is your boss.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

'As I said' might sound more formal when written, read, or spoken, but 'like I said' is technically not grammatically incorrect. It does not change the meaning of the sentence; nor is there a rule or exception in the English language that denotes it as incorrect. If you're still in high school, I would ignore your teach when she make such grammatical eneralizations.

I bet she also told you never to use passive voice.

Generally in language there are two parametres: acceptability and obedience or deviation from grammar.

All combinations exist: anti-grammatical but acceptable, grammatical and acceptable, grammatical but not acceptable, anti-grammatical and not acceptable (obviously).

For instance, the plural of politeness (which is more prominent in Greek or other languages) is anti-grammatical but it is acceptable pragmatically and used every day and is often advised by teachers depending on the communicational "context".

What is the plural of "politeness"? :|

Politenesses?

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Speaking of being "grammatically correct", in school we are actually taught things that are anti-grammatical but acceptable.

Generally in language there are two parametres: acceptability and obedience or deviation from grammar.

All combinations exist: anti-grammatical but acceptable, grammatical and acceptable, grammatical but not acceptable, anti-grammatical and not acceptable (obviously).

For instance, the plural of politeness (which is more prominent in Greek or other languages) is anti-grammatical but it is acceptable pragmatically and used every day and is often advised by teachers depending on the communicational "context".

Teenaged

What is the plural of "politeness"? :|

Politenesses?

Its the plural used when addressing one person, out of politeness. For instance when the person you are talking to is much older or he/she is your boss.

I know what you meant. It's called plural politeness, no 'of.'

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

What is the plural of "politeness"? :|

Politenesses?

Communistik

Its the plural used when addressing one person, out of politeness. For instance when the person you are talking to is much older or he/she is your boss.

I know what you meant. It's called plural politeness, no 'of.'

I dont know all the terminology of languages other than my own.

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Speaking of being "grammatically correct", in school we are actually taught things that are anti-grammatical but acceptable.

Generally in language there are two parametres: acceptability and obedience or deviation from grammar.

All combinations exist: anti-grammatical but acceptable, grammatical and acceptable, grammatical but not acceptable, anti-grammatical and not acceptable (obviously).

For instance, the plural of politeness (which is more prominent in Greek or other languages) is anti-grammatical but it is acceptable pragmatically and used every day and is often advised by teachers depending on the communicational "context".

kipohippo021

What is the plural of "politeness"? :|

Politenesses?

Politeness is a noun. The adjective would be polite.

Study up.

By the way, plurality also applies to verbs in English, and it applies to adjectives in just about every other language.

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="Communistik"]

What is the plural of "politeness"? :|

Politenesses?

Communistik

Politeness is a noun. The adjective would be polite.

Study up.

By the way, plurality also applies to verbs in English, and it applies to adjectives in just about every other language.

There is no morpheme denoting plural in adjectives or verbs in English (while of course the notion exists and is applied to both).