A question on the great mystery of Time Travel and my scenario concerning it.

Since no one is sure if time travel exists there is no legitimate answer. But I'm guessing you would die when you killed your self in the past.

Why kill yourself when you could go back even further in time and accidentally make out with your mother while trying to hook her up with your dad?

even though you could get back in time ,that wouldn't mean you could chnge something that is already happend,i doubt if could manipulate anything.

It's make me think too much!

There are two theories proposed that attempt to rectify this problem, which has come to be known as the "grandfather paradox":

1. If you attempted to go back in time and change something, you would either find yourself unable to do so (for whatever reason) or would find yourself as the actual root cause of whatever it was; or

2. You would go back in time, but would emerge in a parallel reality, one in which you are present at the time at which you injected yourself. In other words, if you went back in time and killed your grandfather, it would not actually be your grandfather; it would be the grandfather of the version of you that would have existed in that reality were it not for your actions.

Both seem reasonable to me, if we accept the possibility of time travel (which is itself a debatable issue).

Why kill yourself when you could go back even further in time and accidentally make out with your mother while trying to hook her up with your dad?

Oleg_Huzwog

if time travel worked and you wanted to go back, killing yourself may not work.

A paradox would happen...at which point the universe could colapse on itself.

Really, i think people should reconsider time travel. Humans shouldn`t be messing with universe rules.

A time machine can only go back when it was built so you couldn't move back further then at the point it was created.

I heard this from the show "The Universe"

A time machine can only go back when it was built so you couldn't move back further then at the point it was created.

I heard this from the show "The Universe"

MrKittyCat1234

That... doesn't even remotely make sense. :P How would the universe even know when a time machine is officially "built"?

that makes no sense, at most you will be able to slow down/speed up timeAkroan

No, you have already built the time machine and moved forward in time. Killing yourself in the past will have no consequence because your past is like a shadow and is only going to do everything the present you does. Its all about the future.

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Why kill yourself when you could go back even further in time and accidentally make out with your mother while trying to hook her up with your dad?

BumFluff122

[QUOTE="MrKittyCat1234"]

A time machine can only go back when it was built so you couldn't move back further then at the point it was created.

I heard this from the show "The Universe"

GabuEx

That... doesn't even remotely make sense. :P How would the universe even know when a time machine is officially "built"?

So one day you decide to build a time machine. Once it's done, you think you should go back in time to when you first built it. You kill your other self and return to the future from where you came from. So does this mean you will disappear into nothing? Still be alive? Let me hear your thoughts young padawans.

WeedleLad

ever heard of the grandfather paradox?

There are two theories proposed that attempt to rectify this problem, which has come to be known as the "grandfather paradox":

1. If you attempted to go back in time and change something, you would either find yourself unable to do so (for whatever reason) or would find yourself as the actual root cause of whatever it was; or

2. You would go back in time, but would emerge in a parallel reality, one in which you are present at the time at which you injected yourself. In other words, if you went back in time and killed your grandfather, it would not actually be your grandfather; it would be the grandfather of the version of you that would have existed in that reality were it not for your actions.

Both seem reasonable to me, if we accept the possibility of time travel (which is itself a debatable issue).

GabuEx

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A time machine can only go back when it was built so you couldn't move back further then at the point it was created.

I heard this from the show "The Universe"

GabuEx

That... doesn't even remotely make sense. :P How would the universe even know when a time machine is officially "built"?

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Why kill yourself when you could go back even further in time and accidentally make out with your mother while trying to hook her up with your dad?

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Why kill yourself when you could go back even further in time and accidentally make out with your mother while trying to hook her up with your dad?

Funky_Llama

And YOU just ruined my Back to the Future reference by thinking it was Futurama. I hope you're happy.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]You can't go further back in time than before the time machien was made.

Oleg_Huzwog

And YOU just ruined my Back to the Future reference by thinking it was Futurama. I hope you're happy.

Why kill yourself when you could go back even further in time and accidentally make out with your mother while trying to hook her up with your dad?

Oleg_Huzwog

I honestly could not agree more, in this case.

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Why kill yourself when you could go back even further in time and accidentally make out with your mother while trying to hook her up with your dad?

Funky_Llama

IT has soemthign to do with physics and math and indepth scientific stuff. I really have no idea but that is what the current belief amongst physicists is.

these are the types of questions that really confuse me, but one thing is for certain, if time travel does become a reality, and not just small fractions of miliseconds type time travel, but when it becomes a reality the world will end

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]"Young padawans"? *Looks at own level* *Looks at TCs level* *Considers the maturity of TC's ideas* :lol:WeedleLad

Because a level on Gamespot determines a persons intelligence....

My view has always been that every action we take in life has an infinate amount of variations (different timelines), and if we time travelled, we'd jump from timeline to timeline that corresponded to the actions we make.

So what would happen is that we could go to any time, and kill our grand fathers, and we'd still exist. We wouldn't really be "changing" anything, we'd just jump to a new timeline where our grandfather died.

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Because a level on Gamespot determines a persons intelligence....

WeedleLad

If you don't understand the robotic eye thing was obviously a joke, then go ahead and keep calling yourself smart. Try getting some humor in your life. =)

This thread reminds me of the Time Machine movie, when the guy tried to save his wife/girlfriend from dieing but found out it would happen no matter what.

If you killed yourself in the past you would definantly be dead in the present.

Btw, why would you kill yourself.

This thread reminds me of the Time Machine movie, when the guy tried to save his wife/girlfriend from dieing but found out it would happen no matter what.

Jfisch93

And if you went back in time and died, would time just keep looping? Would you just keep going back in time and dying, or would the universe find a way to stop you from time travelling.

Why kill yourself when you could go back even further in time and accidentally make out with your mother while trying to hook her up with your dad?

Oleg_Huzwog

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Why kill yourself when you could go back even further in time and accidentally make out with your mother while trying to hook her up with your dad?

Jacobistheman

I guess you would alter reality and establish yourself into it

Why kill yourself when you could go back even further in time and accidentally make out with your mother while trying to hook her up with your dad?

Oleg_Huzwog

So one day you decide to build a time machine. Once it's done, you think you should go back in time to when you first built it. You kill your other self and return to the future from where you came from. So does this mean you will disappear into nothing? Still be alive? Let me hear your thoughts young padawans.

WeedleLad

Time and Space are both the state of mind, there is really no such thing. So this whole time travel theory isbs. We use time as an interval to identify events and space as a measure of distance. How do you define space? Because it's quite important when time travelling right? Let me give you an example: Imagine you have two thoughts, thought A and thought B, the time taken to reach from A to B is the actual time and the distance between a to b is the actual space. So it all comes down to your mental perception and how quick you are able to interpret actual events and micro space.

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[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]"Young padawans"? *Looks at own level* *Looks at TCs level* *Considers the maturity of TC's ideas* :lol:WeedleLad

Because a level on Gamespot determines a persons intelligence....

You really do not believe that science will one day unlock the technology needed to make one smarter with a computer chip implant, and make a blind person see with a robotic eye? If so then you clearly do not understand technology, if anything is possible, it is the things that I just described.

So one day you decide to build a time machine. Once it's done, you think you should go back in time to when you first built it. You kill your other self and return to the future from where you came from. So does this mean you will disappear into nothing? Still be alive? Let me hear your thoughts young padawans.

WeedleLad

There are two time travel possibilities that I favor. The first is that time travel abides by Terminator/12 Monkeys rules. You can go back in time and do whatever you want to, just so long as you were present in that time. And just so long as what you "change" by going into the past doesn't actually change anything. Since you were present in the past, whatever you do in the past is exactly what you had to do. And by extension, you had to travel into the past just so that you could be present in the past.

Second thing I favor is the notion that you can travel back in time, but not before the time machine was invented. This follows the notion that if we ever build a time machine, there's all sorts of **** that could pop out of it the second that it's turned on.

Like, a few nights ago I had this dream. I was a scientist building a time machine, and we were just about to turn it on. The second we turned it on, a radio transmission came from the time machine saying "turn off the time machine NOW!" I then tried to turn off the time machine, but it was too late. Some horrible monster came out of the time machine and started killing everyone. Realizing that I was doomed, and that it was too late to stop the monster, I realized that my only hope was to stop the monster from ever travelling through the time machine. So I sent a message back through time saying "turn off the time machine NOW!"

Then the monster killed me.

Then after dying, I turned into a ghost and just sort of watched the dream from a narrator's perspective. I watched the monsters conquer the earth. Then they left. Then about fifty years later, a monster arrived from space, found the time machine, and used it to go back in time fifty years so that it could subsequently eradicate the human race.

[QUOTE="WeedleLad"]

So one day you decide to build a time machine. Once it's done, you think you should go back in time to when you first built it. You kill your other self and return to the future from where you came from. So does this mean you will disappear into nothing? Still be alive? Let me hear your thoughts young padawans.

MrGeezer

There are two time travel possibilities that I favor. The first is that time travel abides by Terminator/12 Monkeys rules. You can go back in time and do whatever you want to, just so long as you were present in that time. And just so long as what you "change" by going into the past doesn't actually change anything. Since you were present in the past, whatever you do in the past is exactly what you had to do. And by extension, you had to travel into the past just so that you could be present in the past.

Second thing I favor is the notion that you can travel back in time, but not before the time machine was invented. This follows the notion that if we ever build a time machine, there's all sorts of **** that could pop out of it the second that it's turned on.

Like, a few nights ago I had this dream. I was a scientist building a time machine, and we were just about to turn it on. The second we turned it on, a radio transmission came from the time machine saying "turn off the time machine NOW!" I then tried to turn off the time machine, but it was too late. Some horrible monster came out of the time machine and started killing everyone. Realizing that I was doomed, and that it was too late to stop the monster, I realized that my only hope was to stop the monster from ever travelling through the time machine. So I sent a message back through time saying "turn off the time machine NOW!"

Then the monster killed me.

Then after dying, I turned into a ghost and just sort of watched the dream from a narrator's perspective. I watched the monsters conquer the earth. Then they left. Then about fifty years later, a monster arrived from space, found the time machine, and used it to go back in time fifty years so that it could subsequently eradicate the human race.

No, you would live. Indeed you did kill yourself in the past but YOU are still alive meaning there was two of you. If you went back in time and killed someone else then they would not exist in the present.