Now do you think that religions can be formed just generally by any type of belief, dumb or not, as long as there's people backing it, or to be a real religion, does it need some sort of, well, spritual involment or some kind of supernatural that you can't explain?
[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Religion is a societal response to the unknown, and a means of cathartic emotional expression without the guilt of indulgence.ghoklebutter
And also a crutch.
Saint Ignaitus thought religion was a crutch obviously.
[QUOTE="alexside1"]That's Catholicism (during the middle ages IRC)Zeviander
I was referring to rituals, but I lol'd at the indulgences reference. Such a silly way to conduct religion. If I assume I know what you mean by cathartic one could hardly accuse the divine Liturgy of the old Latin mass as being any of those things. They are defined by their their calmness and cereberalness.
Only if one doesn't know the facts and resorts to early 18th century scholarship. But that doesn't make it right.Philokalia
A generalization is never "right". It just accounts for the simplest aspects of everything. If you want to go into detail about the origin and formation of Christianity, go ahead, I won't read it.
A generalization is never "right". It just accounts for the simplest aspects of everything. If you want to go into detail about the origin and formation of Christianity, go ahead, I won't read it.Zeviander
And I'm telling your generalisation could not account for Christianity in the simplest of aspects.
If I assume I know what you mean by cathartic one could hardly accuse the divine Liturgy of the old Latin mass as being any of those things. They are defined by their their calmness and cereberalness.Philokalia
Catharsis is the release (or "purging" if you will) of emotion through a symbolic (artistic), or ritualistic (religious) means. It allows private expression of emotional states without having to trouble others with it.
Catharsis is the release (or "purging" if you will) of emotion through a symbolic (artistic), or ritualistic (religious) means. It allows private expression of emotional states without having to trouble others with it.Zeviander
I'm taking into account the facts we know about first century Jewish life and then to suggest what your suggesting is completely out of character and quite simply doesn't fit into the scheme of things on a psychological level and a historical level.
:lol: God_Tier topic. You have covered the tourture topic, the "how do I level?" topic, a gay joke topic, and now religion all in one day. Bravo, shall we touch on abortion next? Thanks for making OT just a little bit worse.
Now do you think that religions can be formed just generally by any type of belief, dumb or not, as long as there's people backing it, or to be a real religion, does it need some sort of, well, spritual involment or some kind of supernatural that you can't explain?The-GodTier
As long as it has followers, that's all it takes. Anyone can start a religion, some are just better at it than others.
[QUOTE="Zeviander"] Lol, accused. Yeah, you certainly aren't biased.Philokalia
Attend a divine liturgy, it is not highly energetic, it isn't sponteanous. It is strict, it is calm it is cereberal.
I've attended many Catholic masses. I give you calm, but not cerebral. It's ritual, words, genuflecting, with some decent music if the cantor and choir are good. There is little to suggest genuine introspection, which is something necessary for the spiritual soul.
I've attended many Catholic masses. I give you calm, but not cerebral. It's ritual, words, genuflecting, with some decent music if the cantor and choir are good. There is little to suggest genuine introspection, which is something necessary for the spiritual soul.
I've attended many Catholic masses. I give you calm, but not cerebral. It's ritual, words, genuflecting, with some decent music if the cantor and choir are good. There is little to suggest genuine introspection, which is something necessary for the spiritual soul.
Philokalia
Old mass before Vatican two.
I don't think you can expect people to have attended something that hasn't been utilizied much since 1962.
Sure why not, L. Ron Hubbard did it. Doesn't take much to get a bunch of people following you ready to give their money. We're irrational, fearful, and stupid when it comes to a lot of things.
Sure why not, L. Ron Hubbard did it. Doesn't take much to get a bunch of people following you ready to give their money. We're irrational, fearful, and stupid when it comes to a lot of things. HoolaHoopMan
So basically, if enough faith is put in, and a group of people claim it is a belief in god, then the belief of the say, KKK for example an be a legal religion? Seems like a flawed system, i think you guys are mixing up definitions, if its that easy people can abuse it more so than now.
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