Abraham Briggs Sr. "Appalled" by the Internet for His Son's Suicide

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6314787

Now he blames the Internet and calls for regulation.

Um, yeah, sorry that your kid killed himself and all, but, you know, if you were fit to be a parent, you would have noticed something was wrong and you would have done something about it. Blame your own damn self for not giving enough of a crap about your kid's personal life to go in his room and say "Hey, wanna talk?":roll:

This is freaking stupid. Suicide is stupid (99 times out of 100), and posting it on the internet is beyond stupid.

I am truly sorry for his loss, but he has no one to blame but his son, whatever medication he might have been on and, to an extent, himself if he was a terrible father.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6314787

Now he blames the Internet and calls for regulation.

Um, yeah, sorry that your kid killed himself and all, but, you know, if you were fit to be a parent, you would have noticed something was wrong and you would have done something about it. Blame your own damn self for not giving enough of a crap about your kid's personal life to go in his room and say "Hey, wanna talk?":roll:

Theokhoth

Don't give me that crap. Most of these people sat there and watched the guy commit suicide, and didn't do one thing to help. They sat there an WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in real time, for entertainment. There is no way to defend that. Absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

Even worse, some of them EGGED HIM ON. If you're in the mall and some dude threatens to blow his head off, and then you walk up to him and start urging him to do it, then I guarantee that you're gonna get arrested. If you urge someone to burn down a building, you're partly to blame for the ensuing fire. If you try to convince someone to go on a shooting spree, you've got blood on your hands. Don't DARE try to take blame away from the people who sat around and watched this happen. Those people are scum, the internet is a place that nurtures and promotes scum, and I absolutely have no problem if measures are taken to "clean up" the internet in the same way that police try to "clean up" a crime infested neighborhood. 

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6314787

Now he blames the Internet and calls for regulation.

Um, yeah, sorry that your kid killed himself and all, but, you know, if you were fit to be a parent, you would have noticed something was wrong and you would have done something about it. Blame your own damn self for not giving enough of a crap about your kid's personal life to go in his room and say "Hey, wanna talk?":roll:

MrGeezer

Don't give me that crap. Most of these people sat there and watched the guy commit suicide, and didn't do one thing to help. They sat there an WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in real time, for entertainment. There is no way to defend that. Absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

Even worse, some of them EGGED HIM ON. If you're in the mall and some dude threatens to blow his head off, and then you walk up to him and start urging him to do it, then I guarantee that you're gonna get arrested. If you urge someone to burn down a building, you're partly to blame for the ensuing fire. If you try to convince someone to go on a shooting spree, you've got blood on your hands. Don't DARE try to take blame away from the people who sat around and watched this happen. Those people are scum, the internet is a place that nurtures and promotes scum, and I absolutely have no problem if measures are taken to "clean up" the internet in the same way that police try to "clean up" a crime infested neighborhood. 

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6314787

Now he blames the Internet and calls for regulation.

Um, yeah, sorry that your kid killed himself and all, but, you know, if you were fit to be a parent, you would have noticed something was wrong and you would have done something about it. Blame your own damn self for not giving enough of a crap about your kid's personal life to go in his room and say "Hey, wanna talk?":roll:

MrGeezer

Don't give me that crap. Most of these people sat there and watched the guy commit suicide, and didn't do one thing to help. They sat there an WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in real time, for entertainment. There is no way to defend that. Absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

Even worse, some of them EGGED HIM ON. If you're in the mall and some dude threatens to blow his head off, and then you walk up to him and start urging him to do it, then I guarantee that you're gonna get arrested. If you urge someone to burn down a building, you're partly to blame for the ensuing fire. If you try to convince someone to go on a shooting spree, you've got blood on your hands. Don't DARE try to take blame away from the people who sat around and watched this happen. Those people are scum, the internet is a place that nurtures and promotes scum, and I absolutely have no problem if measures are taken to "clean up" the internet in the same way that police try to "clean up" a crime infested neighborhood. 

What the hell are they supposed to do? They took his IP and notified the police (that's how they knew to go there in the first place) but most of them were in other cities, countries, the other side of the world! "Didn't do anything about it"? What should they do? Fly a plane to his house and tell him to stop? Egging him on is bad, but really, he provoked it by threatening suicide in the first place.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6314787

Now he blames the Internet and calls for regulation.

Um, yeah, sorry that your kid killed himself and all, but, you know, if you were fit to be a parent, you would have noticed something was wrong and you would have done something about it. Blame your own damn self for not giving enough of a crap about your kid's personal life to go in his room and say "Hey, wanna talk?":roll:

MrGeezer

Don't give me that crap. Most of these people sat there and watched the guy commit suicide, and didn't do one thing to help. They sat there an WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in real time, for entertainment. There is no way to defend that. Absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

Even worse, some of them EGGED HIM ON. If you're in the mall and some dude threatens to blow his head off, and then you walk up to him and start urging him to do it, then I guarantee that you're gonna get arrested. If you urge someone to burn down a building, you're partly to blame for the ensuing fire. If you try to convince someone to go on a shooting spree, you've got blood on your hands. Don't DARE try to take blame away from the people who sat around and watched this happen. Those people are scum, the internet is a place that nurtures and promotes scum, and I absolutely have no problem if measures are taken to "clean up" the internet in the same way that police try to "clean up" a crime infested neighborhood. 

so are you blaming the people who watched him kill himself? what if you live in say alaska(random place) do you expect them to somehow help? also people did not know if this was real or not so dont blame others for what he did to himself 

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6314787

Now he blames the Internet and calls for regulation.

Um, yeah, sorry that your kid killed himself and all, but, you know, if you were fit to be a parent, you would have noticed something was wrong and you would have done something about it. Blame your own damn self for not giving enough of a crap about your kid's personal life to go in his room and say "Hey, wanna talk?":roll:

MrGeezer

Don't give me that crap. Most of these people sat there and watched the guy commit suicide, and didn't do one thing to help. They sat there an WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in real time, for entertainment. There is no way to defend that. Absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

Even worse, some of them EGGED HIM ON. If you're in the mall and some dude threatens to blow his head off, and then you walk up to him and start urging him to do it, then I guarantee that you're gonna get arrested. If you urge someone to burn down a building, you're partly to blame for the ensuing fire. If you try to convince someone to go on a shooting spree, you've got blood on your hands. Don't DARE try to take blame away from the people who sat around and watched this happen. Those people are scum, the internet is a place that nurtures and promotes scum, and I absolutely have no problem if measures are taken to "clean up" the internet in the same way that police try to "clean up" a crime infested neighborhood. 

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6314787

Now he blames the Internet and calls for regulation.

Um, yeah, sorry that your kid killed himself and all, but, you know, if you were fit to be a parent, you would have noticed something was wrong and you would have done something about it. Blame your own damn self for not giving enough of a crap about your kid's personal life to go in his room and say "Hey, wanna talk?":roll:

Theokhoth

Don't give me that crap. Most of these people sat there and watched the guy commit suicide, and didn't do one thing to help. They sat there an WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in real time, for entertainment. There is no way to defend that. Absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

Even worse, some of them EGGED HIM ON. If you're in the mall and some dude threatens to blow his head off, and then you walk up to him and start urging him to do it, then I guarantee that you're gonna get arrested. If you urge someone to burn down a building, you're partly to blame for the ensuing fire. If you try to convince someone to go on a shooting spree, you've got blood on your hands. Don't DARE try to take blame away from the people who sat around and watched this happen. Those people are scum, the internet is a place that nurtures and promotes scum, and I absolutely have no problem if measures are taken to "clean up" the internet in the same way that police try to "clean up" a crime infested neighborhood. 

What the hell are they supposed to do? They took his IP and notified the police (that's how they knew to go there in the first place) but most of them were in other cities, countries, the other side of the world! "Didn't do anything about it"? What should they do? Fly a plane to his house and tell him to stop? Egging him on is bad, but really, he provoked it by threatening suicide in the first place.

 "Fly a plane to his house and tell him to stop? Egging him on is bad"  lol

so are you blaming the people who watched him kill himself? what if you live in say alaska(random place) do you expect them to somehow help? also people did not know if this was real or not so dont blame others for what he did to himself

canucks12792

Yeah, they didn't know it was real. Then, after finding out that it was real, they laughed their asses off. :|

Last I heard, no one even reported the video until after they noticed that the guy hadn't moved in an hour.  

[QUOTE="canucks12792"]

so are you blaming the people who watched him kill himself? what if you live in say alaska(random place) do you expect them to somehow help? also people did not know if this was real or not so dont blame others for what he did to himself

MrGeezer

Yeah, they didn't know it was real. Then, after finding out that it was real, they laughed their asses off. :|

Last I heard, no one even reported the video until after they noticed that the guy hadn't moved in an hour.  

[QUOTE="canucks12792"]

so are you blaming the people who watched him kill himself? what if you live in say alaska(random place) do you expect them to somehow help? also people did not know if this was real or not so dont blame others for what he did to himself

MrGeezer

Yeah, they didn't know it was real. Then, after finding out that it was real, they laughed their asses off. :|

Last I heard, no one even reported the video until after they noticed that the guy hadn't moved in an hour.  

it was his fault though for putting that in the internet for all to see.

Well, apparently they didn't pay much attention because the kid had made several threads before where he said he would do the same thing and didn't. So there was the whole cry wolf thing. Also, he posted what he was going to take, and the people there said it wouldn't kill him because they knew the affects of doing too many of each type of drug. Since they are bodybuilders and whatnot they know a lot about supplements and drugs and what they do to the body and weren't worried about it.

I'm not defending what they did or didn't do and how they acted, thats just what I remember when I read through the thread hours after the event.

Where in this article did it say that he called for "regulations"?

it was his fault though for putting that in the internet for all to see.

canucks12792

Oh right. The mean old suicidal kid MADE the poor internet people act like that. :roll: 

Where in this article did it say that he called for "regulations"?

WushuFighter

"I think after this incident and probably other incidents that have occurred in the past, they all point to some kind of regulation is necessary," Biggs said. 

[QUOTE="canucks12792"]

it was his fault though for putting that in the internet for all to see.

MrGeezer

Oh right. The mean old suicidal kid MADE the poor internet people act like that. :roll: 

The mean old internet people didn't make him commit suicide, either. I mean, he broadcast his suicide on the internet. It doesn't exactly seem like he was terribly intent on backing off from doing it.

[QUOTE="canucks12792"]

it was his fault though for putting that in the internet for all to see.

MrGeezer

Oh right. The mean old suicidal kid MADE the poor internet people act like that. :roll: 

why the hell would he put himself overdosing on the internet then. does he want sympathy? 

I've said it before and i'll say it again, the internet is not a place for sympathy.

was a couple of posts on a forum really going to convince the guy not to kill himself? if so, then he was never really that serious. and if not, then he did the stupid thing of going to the internet than to his parents or a counsellor. 

and since people like to play the sympathy card and say "it doesn't matter if he's faking it blah blah blah" WTF does he have to be despessed about? he had a computer, clothes, a house, and at least one parent in him life. how many african kids can say the same thing? i bet they would trade lives with him in a second.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="canucks12792"]

it was his fault though for putting that in the internet for all to see.

GabuEx

Oh right. The mean old suicidal kid MADE the poor internet people act like that. :roll:

The mean old internet people didn't make him commit suicide, either. I mean, he broadcast his suicide on the internet. It doesn't exactly seem like he was terribly intent on backing off from doing it.

Question. What if instead of a suicide, it had been a school shooting threat. Or a bomb threat. Suppose Little Timmy says that he's gonna shoot up his school tomorrow, and then the people on the internet say "go do it, you little sissy."

We then turn on the news the next day and see that Little Timmy did it, and the media reports that he made the threat the night before only to have people egg him on. Would it be an acceptible excuse when the people who egged him on say "but I didn't think he was REALLY gonna shoot up a school?" 

People always lose focus on these type of topics. They want to blame something or someone for why this or that happened. It's really irrelevant.

The people who encouraged him, are just a variation of the human species that is necessary for other variations to exist. I don't agree with it personaly, but their brains are incapable of processing empathy on the level that I am. Why should I blame them for that? That's just the reality of it. 

[QUOTE="GabuEx"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

 

 

Oh right. The mean old suicidal kid MADE the poor internet people act like that. :roll:

MrGeezer

The mean old internet people didn't make him commit suicide, either. I mean, he broadcast his suicide on the internet. It doesn't exactly seem like he was terribly intent on backing off from doing it.

Question. What if instead of a suicide, it had been a school shooting threat. Or a bomb threat. Suppose Little Timmy says that he's gonna shoot up his school tomorrow, and then the people on the internet say "go do it, you little sissy."

if that was the cause there would be more concerned people and alert the authorities. plus that didnt happen

We then turn on the news the next day and see that Little Timmy did it, and the media reports that he made the threat the night before only to have people egg him on. Would it be an acceptible excuse when the people who egged him on say "but I didn't think he was REALLY gonna shoot up a school?" 

Question. What if instead of a suicide, it had been a school shooting threat. Or a bomb threat. Suppose Little Timmy says that he's gonna shoot up his school tomorrow, and then the people on the internet say "go do it, you little sissy."

We then turn on the news the next day and see that Little Timmy did it, and the media reports that he made the threat the night before only to have people egg him on. Would it be an acceptible excuse when the people who egged him on say "but I didn't think he was REALLY gonna shoot up a school?"

MrGeezer

If I recall correctly, someone called the police about his suicide. I have no doubt that someone would also have called the police if he was threatening to shoot up his school, too. The fact remains that he is responsible for his own actions, and if he's broadcasting his intent to the entire internet, I don't think some guy saying "oh, no, you shouldn't do that" is going to have any effect whatsoever.

if that was the cause there would be more concerned people and alert the authorities. plus that didnt happen

canucks12792

They egged on someone to commit an illegal act. That's EXACTLY what happened.

[QUOTE="canucks12792"]

if that was the cause there would be more concerned people and alert the authorities. plus that didnt happen

MrGeezer

They egged on someone to commit an illegal act. That's EXACTLY what happened.

Committing suicide is not illegal.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Question. What if instead of a suicide, it had been a school shooting threat. Or a bomb threat. Suppose Little Timmy says that he's gonna shoot up his school tomorrow, and then the people on the internet say "go do it, you little sissy."

We then turn on the news the next day and see that Little Timmy did it, and the media reports that he made the threat the night before only to have people egg him on. Would it be an acceptible excuse when the people who egged him on say "but I didn't think he was REALLY gonna shoot up a school?"

GabuEx

If I recall correctly, someone called the police about his suicide. I have no doubt that someone would also have called the police if he was threatening to shoot up his school, too. The fact remains that he is responsible for his own actions, and if he's broadcasting his intent to the entire internet, I don't think some guy saying "oh, no, you shouldn't do that" is going to have any effect whatsoever.

"Someone" waited until he was already dead. :| 

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Question. What if instead of a suicide, it had been a school shooting threat. Or a bomb threat. Suppose Little Timmy says that he's gonna shoot up his school tomorrow, and then the people on the internet say "go do it, you little sissy."

We then turn on the news the next day and see that Little Timmy did it, and the media reports that he made the threat the night before only to have people egg him on. Would it be an acceptible excuse when the people who egged him on say "but I didn't think he was REALLY gonna shoot up a school?"

MrGeezer

If I recall correctly, someone called the police about his suicide. I have no doubt that someone would also have called the police if he was threatening to shoot up his school, too. The fact remains that he is responsible for his own actions, and if he's broadcasting his intent to the entire internet, I don't think some guy saying "oh, no, you shouldn't do that" is going to have any effect whatsoever.

"Someone" waited until he was already dead. :| 

you cant blame other people for his mistake!!!!!!

"Someone" waited until he was already dead. :|MrGeezer

If people called the police every single time some random guy on the internet threatened suicide, the police would have time for nothing else.  I've dealt with enough goofy attention seekers to know that I, too, would probably have been skeptical at first.

The guy was an adult, 19 yrs. old. Why should I feel sorry for him? Yankees_Dynasty

[QUOTE="canucks12792"]

it was his fault though for putting that in the internet for all to see.

MrGeezer

Oh right. The mean old suicidal kid MADE the poor internet people act like that. :roll: 

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6314787

Now he blames the Internet and calls for regulation.

Um, yeah, sorry that your kid killed himself and all, but, you know, if you were fit to be a parent, you would have noticed something was wrong and you would have done something about it. Blame your own damn self for not giving enough of a crap about your kid's personal life to go in his room and say "Hey, wanna talk?":roll:

MrGeezer

Don't give me that crap. Most of these people sat there and watched the guy commit suicide, and didn't do one thing to help. They sat there an WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in real time, for entertainment. There is no way to defend that. Absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

Even worse, some of them EGGED HIM ON. If you're in the mall and some dude threatens to blow his head off, and then you walk up to him and start urging him to do it, then I guarantee that you're gonna get arrested. If you urge someone to burn down a building, you're partly to blame for the ensuing fire. If you try to convince someone to go on a shooting spree, you've got blood on your hands. Don't DARE try to take blame away from the people who sat around and watched this happen. Those people are scum, the internet is a place that nurtures and promotes scum, and I absolutely have no problem if measures are taken to "clean up" the internet in the same way that police try to "clean up" a crime infested neighborhood. 

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6314787

Now he blames the Internet and calls for regulation.

Um, yeah, sorry that your kid killed himself and all, but, you know, if you were fit to be a parent, you would have noticed something was wrong and you would have done something about it. Blame your own damn self for not giving enough of a crap about your kid's personal life to go in his room and say "Hey, wanna talk?":roll:

pygmahia5

Don't give me that crap. Most of these people sat there and watched the guy commit suicide, and didn't do one thing to help. They sat there an WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in real time, for entertainment. There is no way to defend that. Absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

Even worse, some of them EGGED HIM ON. If you're in the mall and some dude threatens to blow his head off, and then you walk up to him and start urging him to do it, then I guarantee that you're gonna get arrested. If you urge someone to burn down a building, you're partly to blame for the ensuing fire. If you try to convince someone to go on a shooting spree, you've got blood on your hands. Don't DARE try to take blame away from the people who sat around and watched this happen. Those people are scum, the internet is a place that nurtures and promotes scum, and I absolutely have no problem if measures are taken to "clean up" the internet in the same way that police try to "clean up" a crime infested neighborhood. 

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6314787

Now he blames the Internet and calls for regulation.

Um, yeah, sorry that your kid killed himself and all, but, you know, if you were fit to be a parent, you would have noticed something was wrong and you would have done something about it. Blame your own damn self for not giving enough of a crap about your kid's personal life to go in his room and say "Hey, wanna talk?":roll:

MrGeezer

Don't give me that crap. Most of these people sat there and watched the guy commit suicide, and didn't do one thing to help. They sat there an WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in real time, for entertainment. There is no way to defend that. Absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

Even worse, some of them EGGED HIM ON. If you're in the mall and some dude threatens to blow his head off, and then you walk up to him and start urging him to do it, then I guarantee that you're gonna get arrested. If you urge someone to burn down a building, you're partly to blame for the ensuing fire. If you try to convince someone to go on a shooting spree, you've got blood on your hands. Don't DARE try to take blame away from the people who sat around and watched this happen. Those people are scum, the internet is a place that nurtures and promotes scum, and I absolutely have no problem if measures are taken to "clean up" the internet in the same way that police try to "clean up" a crime infested neighborhood. 

I agree 100%. Wether suicide is right or wrong isnt the question, its the immaturity of people that may have been the final push. I bet if all those worthless pieces of crap watching him actually tryed to encourage him not to do it and not to take his life away he wouldnt have. Encourage people, help people dont be immature selfish idiots. Those watching him were A LOT more selfish than people said he was.

I've said it before and i'll say it again, the internet is not a place for sympathy.indian_playa

I bet if all those worthless pieces of crap watching him actually tryed to encourage him not to do it and not to take his life away he wouldnt have.way2funny

Theres 2 sides to this. First the dad is really upset and is blaming the site for his son's death, but his son made that choice and had to deal with the results.

Second the people who egged him on shouldn't be 100% innocent. You may not be able to charge them with a crime, but morally its still really wrong.

There really isn't a right/wrong side to this. Its just really bad no matter what.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6314787

Now he blames the Internet and calls for regulation.

Um, yeah, sorry that your kid killed himself and all, but, you know, if you were fit to be a parent, you would have noticed something was wrong and you would have done something about it. Blame your own damn self for not giving enough of a crap about your kid's personal life to go in his room and say "Hey, wanna talk?":roll:

way2funny

Don't give me that crap. Most of these people sat there and watched the guy commit suicide, and didn't do one thing to help. They sat there an WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in real time, for entertainment. There is no way to defend that. Absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

Even worse, some of them EGGED HIM ON. If you're in the mall and some dude threatens to blow his head off, and then you walk up to him and start urging him to do it, then I guarantee that you're gonna get arrested. If you urge someone to burn down a building, you're partly to blame for the ensuing fire. If you try to convince someone to go on a shooting spree, you've got blood on your hands. Don't DARE try to take blame away from the people who sat around and watched this happen. Those people are scum, the internet is a place that nurtures and promotes scum, and I absolutely have no problem if measures are taken to "clean up" the internet in the same way that police try to "clean up" a crime infested neighborhood. 

I agree 100%. Wether suicide is right or wrong isnt the question, its the immaturity of people that may have been the final push. I bet if all those worthless pieces of crap watching him actually tryed to encourage him not to do it and not to take his life away he wouldnt have. Encourage people, help people dont be immature selfish idiots. Those watching him were A LOT more selfish than people said he was.

look i'll say this again if he didn't post himself killing himself there wouldnt have all these people egging him. So in the end it's all his fault