Affirmative Action (Racial Topic)

For those of you who don't know what affirmative action is, I will give you the basic definition:

Affirmative Action is something developed in the '60s or '70s...maybe '50s....ANYways, here is what it says:

Basically colleges (I don't know which or if it applies to all) have to have a certain percentage of students that are a certain race at their school. So here is just an example: 20% White, 20% Black, 20% Hispanic, 10% Asian, 10% Middle Eastern, 20% other...

So sometimes this will happen:

A hispanic guy is REALLY qualified to go to a school, however the school has met their quota. So their is an african-american who is qualified, but not nearly as much as the hispanic guy. The school needs more african-americans, so they take the african-american instead.

This scenario happens alot in the U.S.A.

Do you think this is okay, or should their be a change.

In my opinion, it shouldn't be divided by race, rather than the financial health of the person. Let's replace the hispanic in my scenario with a very rich person, and the african-american with a very poor person. I believe the poor person should go.

Let's replace the hispanic in my scenario with a very rich person, and the african-american with a very poor person. I believe the poor person should go.

Carlos_Santana

Even if the Rich person is more qualified? Do I sense hypocrisy?

What is up with you and race topics?

Anyway, I think it's kinda dumb if you ask me. 

this is such an uvertalked about subject.

But in my opinion, it should be changed into giving an advantage to the economically disadvantaged because it should just be based on race, wht about the middle class blacks getting ahead of poor blacks, and wht about poor whites, should they be ignored?

I think affirmative action should be done by income level and not race.....yoshi-lnex

I disagree.  The poor are given government help to live and the rich don't need help.  It's the middle class that is struggling right now....with no help from anyone.

black, white, light brown, etc. all the same.

Vive la race!... *j/k around, but someone had to say that XD *

First u have to ask yourself: do u believe tht your children will be more financially sound than u?

Doesnt a parents success aid the success of their children?

Blacks where enslaved for 200 years, tht means tht white parents became financially stable due to the opression of black parents. Therefore, even today children are still impacted by slavery, white are more succesful than blacks because of the lack of oppurtunities tht their parents where able to access.

Everyone says slavery is not a current problem but history made the present.

What is up with you and race topics?

Anyway, I think it's kinda dumb if you ask me.

TheHimura

I agree race doesn't matter or at least It shouldn't , This affirmative action thing is pure hypocrisy

It doesn't only hurt the majority either...

In Californian schools they often have to decline Asain-Americans because they have too many...

It pretty much BS 

Either way you put it, it's just wrong. Everyone has a right to learn, and if they sincerely DO want to learn than I don't think it matters if you're rich or poor or white or black etc... BmanD

it is probable tht if u have more money, then u live in a better community and give a greater amount of tax money to your local school ,therefore the local school is better. Also, rich people can afford private schools. It is probable tht if u are poor you go to a poor high school and I experience it. 

First u have to ask yourself: do u believe tht your children will be more financially sound than u?

Doesnt a parents success aid the success of their children?

Blacks where enslaved for 200 years, tht means tht white parents became financially stable due to the opression of black parents. Therefore, even today children are still impacted by slavery, white are more succesful than blacks because of the lack of oppurtunities tht their parents where able to access.

Everyone says slavery is not a current problem but history made the present.

Cesb02

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First u have to ask yourself: do u believe tht your children will be more financially sound than u?

Doesnt a parents success aid the success of their children?

Blacks where enslaved for 200 years, tht means tht white parents became financially stable due to the opression of black parents. Therefore, even today children are still impacted by slavery, white are more succesful than blacks because of the lack of oppurtunities tht their parents where able to access.

Everyone says slavery is not a current problem but history made the present.

quiglythegreat

yea i agree it should be based economically because like u said wht about poor white kids or ****middle black kids who dont really need aid to enter a college compared to black kids.

for some reason i cant write middle **** blacks

the stars are for c l a s s ....idk y i cant write tht

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What is up with you and race topics?

Anyway, I think it's kinda dumb if you ask me.

AgentA-Mi6

I agree race doesn't matter or at least It shouldn't , This affirmative action thing is pure hypocrisy

Correction, the "pure hypocrisy" is the denial of white privilage by whites. That is the sole reason behind Affirmative Action. There is also so much ignorance regarding this topic I don't know why I am bothering.

Should have been dumped decades ago.LukeAF24

Shouldn't have existed in the first place.

I believe Affirmative Action is wrong.  However, I find your solution even more absurd.  In my opinion, applicants should be judged by several factors, the largest being his or her intelligence.

Shouldn't have existed in the first place.

EboyLOL

That's debatable, considering it was enacted in middle of the Civil Rights movement. Although, I would probably be on your side when the smoke clears. 

affirmative action was designed to redress the wrongs of PAST discrimination that everyone acknowledges existed.  affirmitive action's goal isn't to deny access to deserving people but to open doors that were traditionally closed.  even today i am one of the few women in tech education, my best friend is one of the only ones in civil engineering and we're at public university.

the downside to affirmitive action is that it reinforces that as women we're not able to compete on a level playing field so special concessions have to be made for us.  the same with people of color.  and it's a bit insulting since i'd pit my skill against any male in my class any day.

so it is a double-edged sword and certainly i think that it's time to replace it for something more progressive but before we slam affirmitive action, we need to be sure we're showing respect to the wounds of the recent past.  try to remember that many of our grandparents went to segregated schools, rode at the back of the bus and couldn't get a lease or a mortgage in certain neighborhoods regardless of their ability to pay simply because of the color of their skin, their religion or whether or not they were married.  we're not talking about 100 years ago, we're talking about 30 years ago.  the last lynching in this country was in the early 70s.  and the local government in my state just settled a huge class action suit documenting their bias against hispanics that didn't end until the early 90s.  so 10 years ago. 

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I think affirmative action should be done by income level and not race.....LJS9502_basic

I disagree.  The poor are given government help to live and the rich don't need help.  It's the middle class that is struggling right now....with no help from anyone.

For those of you who don't know what affirmative action is, I will give you the basic definition:

Affirmative Action is something developed in the '60s or '70s...maybe '50s....ANYways, here is what it says:

Basically colleges (I don't know which or if it applies to all) have to have a certain percentage of students that are a certain race at their school. So here is just an example: 20% White, 20% Black, 20% Hispanic, 10% Asian, 10% Middle Eastern, 20% other...

So sometimes this will happen:

A hispanic guy is REALLY qualified to go to a school, however the school has met their quota. So their is an african-american who is qualified, but not nearly as much as the hispanic guy. The school needs more african-americans, so they take the african-american instead.

This scenario happens alot in the U.S.A.

Do you think this is okay, or should their be a change.

In my opinion, it shouldn't be divided by race, rather than the financial health of the person. Let's replace the hispanic in my scenario with a very rich person, and the african-american with a very poor person. I believe the poor person should go.

Carlos_Santana