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because a long time ago democrats were the ones who pushed for civil rightsLS07actually....not at all....just look at Senator Byrd....former KKK leader.....
[QUOTE="LS07"]because a long time ago democrats were the ones who pushed for civil rightsOmni-Slashactually....not at all....just look at Senator Byrd....former KKK leader.....
obviously not every one of them, but overall they were much better about it than the republicans were I mean look at the legislation that got passed by kennedy and johnson
because a long time ago democrats were the ones who pushed for civil rightsLS07Actually, no. It was the Republicans who first issued the Emancipation Proclamation, under the Lincoln Administration. Initially, the KKK was comprised of Southern Democrats. Even into the 1900s, Woodrow Wilson, a Democratic President, did not push for Civil Rights. Oddly, none of the "Progressive Presidents," (Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson), pushed for Civil Rights. It wasn't until later that the Democrats started going for Civil Rights. Of course, nowadays, they still push that, example being Affirmative Action,though some (particularly conservatives) argue that it gives more favor to minorities than whites. >_>
Democratic Party caters to the poor and the working class. The Republican Party is for the wealthy and big business.LJS9502_basicDo you agree with Social Security then and follow Huey Long's ideas? Ahem. Socialism.:|
[QUOTE="msoftburney"]By being Democratic, they're siding with the KKK. MattUD1
What?
That might have been true... seventy years ago >_>[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Democratic Party caters to the poor and the working class. The Republican Party is for the wealthy and big business.msoftburneyDo you agree with Social Security then and follow Huey Long's ideas? Ahem. Socialism.:| It's a socialist concept, but it doesn't cancel out all the capitalist methods of the USA. Ever heard of a mixed economy?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Democratic Party caters to the poor and the working class. The Republican Party is for the wealthy and big business.msoftburneyDo you agree with Social Security then and follow Huey Long's ideas? Ahem. Socialism.:|
What? Social Security in and of itself is fine...it's the government using it for other things that is not.
[QUOTE="LS07"]because a long time ago democrats were the ones who pushed for civil rightsPannicAtackActually, no. It was the Republicans who first issued the Emancipation Proclamation, under the Lincoln Administration. Initially, the KKK was comprised of Southern Democrats. Even into the 1900s, Woodrow Wilson, a Democratic President, did not push for Civil Rights. Oddly, none of the "Progressive Presidents," (Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson), pushed for Civil Rights. It wasn't until later that the Democrats started going for Civil Rights. Of course, nowadays, they still push that, example being Affirmative Action,though some (particularly conservatives) argue that it gives more favor to minorities than whites. >_>
But what I was talking about was the work in the 60s, where kennedy and johnson really got stuff done, thats where the biggest work got done, I'm not saying its a fair justification I'm just saying it is what people think of when they think of civil rights
Actually, no. It was the Republicans who first issued the Emancipation Proclamation, under the Lincoln Administration. Initially, the KKK was comprised of Southern Democrats. Even into the 1900s, Woodrow Wilson, a Democratic President, did not push for Civil Rights. Oddly, none of the "Progressive Presidents," (Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson), pushed for Civil Rights. It wasn't until later that the Democrats started going for Civil Rights. Of course, nowadays, they still push that, example being Affirmative Action,though some (particularly conservatives) argue that it gives more favor to minorities than whites. >_>[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="LS07"]because a long time ago democrats were the ones who pushed for civil rightsLS07
But what I was talking about was the work in the 60s, where kennedy and johnson really got stuff done, thats where the biggest work got done, I'm not saying its a fair justification I'm just saying it is what people think of when they think of civil rights
That is true. Kennedy in particular was concerned about Civil Rights.Do you agree with Social Security then and follow Huey Long's ideas? Ahem. Socialism.:|[QUOTE="msoftburney"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Democratic Party caters to the poor and the working class. The Republican Party is for the wealthy and big business.LJS9502_basic
What? Social Security in and of itself is fine...it's the government using it for other things that is not.
I wasn't talking Social Security being socialist, only Huey Long's ideas of 'Robinhood' -- (Tax the rich, give to the poor).By the way. Social Security is NOT FINE. Those of you morons who think of it as fine are idiots. Our generation is being screwed right now and will be screwed in the future. It needs to be fixed -- but nothing happens because, hey, if the republicans say something -- the 60 million elderly people who do nothing, who vote, hurt the republicans.
Actually, no. It was the Republicans who first issued the Emancipation Proclamation, under the Lincoln Administration. Initially, the KKK was comprised of Southern Democrats. Even into the 1900s, Woodrow Wilson, a Democratic President, did not push for Civil Rights. Oddly, none of the "Progressive Presidents," (Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson), pushed for Civil Rights. It wasn't until later that the Democrats started going for Civil Rights. Of course, nowadays, they still push that, example being Affirmative Action,though some (particularly conservatives) argue that it gives more favor to minorities than whites. >_>[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="LS07"]because a long time ago democrats were the ones who pushed for civil rightsLS07
But what I was talking about was the work in the 60s, where kennedy and johnson really got stuff done, thats where the biggest work got done, I'm not saying its a fair justification I'm just saying it is what people think of when they think of civil rights
Actually, no. It was the Republicans who first issued the Emancipation Proclamation, under the Lincoln Administration. Initially, the KKK was comprised of Southern Democrats. Even into the 1900s, Woodrow Wilson, a Democratic President, did not push for Civil Rights. Oddly, none of the "Progressive Presidents," (Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson), pushed for Civil Rights. It wasn't until later that the Democrats started going for Civil Rights. Of course, nowadays, they still push that, example being Affirmative Action,though some (particularly conservatives) argue that it gives more favor to minorities than whites. >_>[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="LS07"]because a long time ago democrats were the ones who pushed for civil rightsLS07
But what I was talking about was the work in the 60s, where kennedy and johnson really got stuff done, thats where the biggest work got done, I'm not saying its a fair justification I'm just saying it is what people think of when they think of civil rights
To be honest...the Republicans of Lincolns day have more in common with the Democrats than they do with the current Republican Party.
[QUOTE="LS07"]Actually, no. It was the Republicans who first issued the Emancipation Proclamation, under the Lincoln Administration. Initially, the KKK was comprised of Southern Democrats. Even into the 1900s, Woodrow Wilson, a Democratic President, did not push for Civil Rights. Oddly, none of the "Progressive Presidents," (Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson), pushed for Civil Rights. It wasn't until later that the Democrats started going for Civil Rights. Of course, nowadays, they still push that, example being Affirmative Action,though some (particularly conservatives) argue that it gives more favor to minorities than whites. >_>[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="LS07"]because a long time ago democrats were the ones who pushed for civil rightsLJS9502_basic
But what I was talking about was the work in the 60s, where kennedy and johnson really got stuff done, thats where the biggest work got done, I'm not saying its a fair justification I'm just saying it is what people think of when they think of civil rights
To be honest...the Republicans of Lincolns day have more in common with the Democrats than they do with the current Republican Party.
I'm going to have to agree with you there.
[QUOTE="LS07"]Actually, no. It was the Republicans who first issued the Emancipation Proclamation, under the Lincoln Administration. Initially, the KKK was comprised of Southern Democrats. Even into the 1900s, Woodrow Wilson, a Democratic President, did not push for Civil Rights. Oddly, none of the "Progressive Presidents," (Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson), pushed for Civil Rights. It wasn't until later that the Democrats started going for Civil Rights. Of course, nowadays, they still push that, example being Affirmative Action,though some (particularly conservatives) argue that it gives more favor to minorities than whites. >_>[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="LS07"]because a long time ago democrats were the ones who pushed for civil rightsSilentFireX
But what I was talking about was the work in the 60s, where kennedy and johnson really got stuff done, thats where the biggest work got done, I'm not saying its a fair justification I'm just saying it is what people think of when they think of civil rights
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Do you agree with Social Security then and follow Huey Long's ideas? Ahem. Socialism.:|[QUOTE="msoftburney"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Democratic Party caters to the poor and the working class. The Republican Party is for the wealthy and big business.msoftburney
What? Social Security in and of itself is fine...it's the government using it for other things that is not.
I wasn't talking Social Security being socialist, only Huey Long's ideas of 'Robinhood' -- (Tax the rich, give to the poor).By the way. Social Security is NOT FINE. Those of you morons who think of it as fine are idiots. Our generation is being screwed right now and will be screwed in the future. It needs to be fixed -- but nothing happens because, hey, if the republicans say something -- the 60 million elderly people who do nothing, who vote, hurt the republicans.
That's two flames in one sentence. The concept of Social Security is fine.....now read the rest of my post before spouting insults.:roll:
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Do you agree with Social Security then and follow Huey Long's ideas? Ahem. Socialism.:|[QUOTE="msoftburney"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Democratic Party caters to the poor and the working class. The Republican Party is for the wealthy and big business.msoftburney
What? Social Security in and of itself is fine...it's the government using it for other things that is not.
I wasn't talking Social Security being socialist, only Huey Long's ideas of 'Robinhood' -- (Tax the rich, give to the poor).By the way. Social Security is NOT FINE. Those of you morons who think of it as fine are idiots. Our generation is being screwed right now and will be screwed in the future. It needs to be fixed -- but nothing happens because, hey, if the republicans say something -- the 60 million elderly people who do nothing, who vote, hurt the republicans.
Huey Long was a nut. That guy wasn't just a Socialist, he was in favor of Totalitarianism. >_>[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Do you agree with Social Security then and follow Huey Long's ideas? Ahem. Socialism.:|[QUOTE="msoftburney"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Democratic Party caters to the poor and the working class. The Republican Party is for the wealthy and big business.msoftburney
What? Social Security in and of itself is fine...it's the government using it for other things that is not.
I wasn't talking Social Security being socialist, only Huey Long's ideas of 'Robinhood' -- (Tax the rich, give to the poor).By the way. Social Security is NOT FINE. Those of you morons who think of it as fine are idiots. Our generation is being screwed right now and will be screwed in the future. It needs to be fixed -- but nothing happens because, hey, if the republicans say something -- the 60 million elderly people who do nothing, who vote, hurt the republicans.
It's called ideology. I don't believe in Social Security, but others do. That's life...That's two flames in one sentence. The concept of Social Security is fine.....now read the rest of my post before spouting insults.:roll:LJS9502_basicYes, a long time ago it was a great concept. Now? No. Why was it back then? Because the elderly died in their sixties.
By 2013. Whoops. We need money. Time for some taxes...
By 2023. Crap. It's dead.
[QUOTE="LS07"]because a long time ago democrats were the ones who pushed for civil rightsPannicAtackActually, no. It was the Republicans who first issued the Emancipation Proclamation, under the Lincoln Administration. Initially, the KKK was comprised of Southern Democrats. Even into the 1900s, Woodrow Wilson, a Democratic President, did not push for Civil Rights. Oddly, none of the "Progressive Presidents," (Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson), pushed for Civil Rights. It wasn't until later that the Democrats started going for Civil Rights. Of course, nowadays, they still push that, example being Affirmative Action,though some (particularly conservatives) argue that it gives more favor to minorities than whites. >_> You know, the GOP and the Democrats are the exact same compared to how they used to be. This is due to the unchanging nature both of political issues and geopolitical boundaries.
It's called ideology. I don't believe in Social Security, but others do. That's life...wemhimYou mean only the sixty million elderly people who want their checks?
Yes, a long time ago it was a great concept. Now? No. Why was it back then? Because the elderly died in their sixties.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That's two flames in one sentence. The concept of Social Security is fine.....now read the rest of my post before spouting insults.:roll:msoftburney
By 2013. Whoops. We need money. Time for some taxes...
By 2023. Crap. It's dead.
No..it's because Social Security is given out for reasons other than retirement.
[QUOTE="wemhim"] It's called ideology. I don't believe in Social Security, but others do. That's life...msoftburneyYou mean only the sixty million elderly people who want their checks? Yes, because social security only goes to the eldery...Hence why it's called, "Elderly security", oh wait, it's not...
[QUOTE="msoftburney"][QUOTE="wemhim"] It's called ideology. I don't believe in Social Security, but others do. That's life...wemhimYou mean only the sixty million elderly people who want their checks? Yes, because social security only goes to the eldery...Hence why it's called, "Elderly security", oh wait, it's not... Funny. Really, I got a laugh from that. As these elderly, baby boomers --call them whatever you ****ing like whatever, start retiring; Social Security will be in the red by, 2016 maybe 2017. Medical, starts bleeding in 2013, and completely goes under by 2019. This means it's FLAWED; CORRECT? So why change it? Why not fix it? Because those ****ing elderly want their money!
Despite the Republican's push to free the slaves in the 1800's, most blacks will side with Democrats because they seem to, falsely, have their best interests in mind. At least, lately. It's a community thing, but, when you think about it, neither party really cares. Dems will throw terms like "Affirmative Action" around as teasers to get your ears perked when, in actuality, it has no true affects on employment and, truthfully, do not benefit racial minorities. To tell you the truth, I think it's a wholesale decision to choose the lesser of two evils. The lesser, in this case, being Democrats who try to sing and dance their way to a minority vote as opposed to Republicans ready to line the pockets of the upper class at the expense of the working class.
[QUOTE="crusher2002000"]barack obamaSpaceDragonMan
If I was black, I'd be offended by that statement...
I don't see why. I surely am not.
[QUOTE="crusher2002000"]barack obamaSpaceDragonMan
If I was black, I'd be offended by that statement...
there r alot of stupid ppl in this world. don't act like some black ppl won't vote him in because of his colour. especially in the poverty areas where some believe that the only reason they r poor is because of their race. its the same with clinton im sure some women will vote her in just because of her gender. its very stupid yes but there r ppl like that, that blame their problems on their race/gender and feel that if they vote a person in like them that it will change
You mean only the sixty million elderly people who want their checks? Yes, because social security only goes to the eldery...Hence why it's called, "Elderly security", oh wait, it's not... Funny. Really, I got a laugh from that. As these elderly, baby boomers --call them whatever you ****ing like whatever, start retiring; Social Security will be in the red by, 2016 maybe 2017. Medical, starts bleeding in 2013, and completely goes under by 2019. This means it's FLAWED; CORRECT? So why change it? Why not fix it? Because those ****ing elderly want their money![QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="msoftburney"][QUOTE="wemhim"] It's called ideology. I don't believe in Social Security, but others do. That's life...msoftburney
That's easily fixed: Just emancipate Florida from the union.
That's easily fixed: Just emancipate Florida from the union. gameguy6700:lol: Brilliant! No, seriously. WHAT? :lol:
I think its because alot (dare i say the majority) of republican politicians are from the south.-Serpahim-Funnily enough, the South used to be the region where the Democrats always won. Look at the voting for FDR. All four elections, the South consistently voted for him. >_>
[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]I think its because alot (dare i say the majority) of republican politicians are from the south.PannicAtackFunnily enough, the South used to be the region where the Democrats always won. Look at the voting for FDR. All four elections, the South consistently voted for him. >_>
Im not talking about where they won, im talking about where the politicians are from. Southern White Politicians start with a -5 Charisma.
Lot's of black people are poor and/or working class. Democrats are more about letting the government take care of everyone. They give "handouts" in a sense. Republicans are more about not interfearing in people's personal lives as much.. not as much handouts. They are more for business by the people, and less help from the government.
That's why the lower class likes the democratic party. They give instead of show "tough love".. ya know what I mean? It's like a parent doing everything for their kids growing up, instead of letting them find out on their own, with guideance.
Lot's of black people are poor and/or working class. Democrats are more about letting the government take care of everyone. They give "handouts" in a sense. Republicans are more about not interfearing in people's personal lives as much.. not as much handouts. They are more for business by the people, and less help from the government.
That's why the lower class likes the democratic party. They give instead of show "tough love".. ya know what I mean? It's like a parent doing everything for their kids growing up, instead of letting them find out on their own, with guideance.
Mysteryous
Couldn't have said it better myself. :)
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